How to Become a True Agent of Change

What will it take to finally dismantle white supremacy and patriarchy? Sarah Springer and Naomi McDougall Jones have each spent over a decade trying to dismantle those forces in Hollywood. But, after a failed attempt to bring movement leaders together to create foundational change, the two were forced to confront a more uncomfortable question: "Is it possible that even when what we think what we want is change, that our conditioning is leading us to uphold the existing power structures?" The devastating conclusion they arrived at was, "Yes. Because we were all shaped by this society." That prompted Sarah and Naomi to embark on more than two years of conversations, research, and digging - sharing and dissecting their own very different experiences, but also discovering their surprisingly similar journeys of transformation. In this talk, the two share their gained understanding of the deeper work that we must each do individually and collectively to finally wake up from the nightmare of white supremacy and patriarchy and at last build a dream of our own.