Deltric Robertson

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Which philosophies create better long lasting relationship Gender roles or Gender Equality

Gender roles and Gender Equality are contradictory philosophies; pick one, because you can’t have both. Under the gender role philosophy it is my role to stand up and let you sit down on a crowded bus, under the Gender Equality philosophy you ought to stand up on a crowded bus because I got here first. Under Gender Role I should pay for the date. Under Gender Equality: We pay for our own meals. Gender Role: It is mainly my job to be the provider in the house hold. Gender Equality: Get a job and pay half the bills.I’m not stating that one philosophy is wrong or right, but I am saying be consistent and stop wavering between the two philosophies depending on which one is most beneficial to you at the time ( both men and women).

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    Dec 24 2012: I dispute your APPARENT assertion that defining roles for genders and considering genders to be equal are mutually exclusive. What evidence do you have that this is not an "and" situation? I believe in the validity AND natural necessity for both. IF you are implying that females and males are behaviorially identical by nature, you are wrong. Thank you!
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    Dec 26 2012: or choose neither. my choice is freedom.
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    Dec 26 2012: Gender equality is acceptable to me. Men and Women share the beauty of humanity, there are things that are peculiar to men and peculiar to women.
    If we are to be realistic, no single sex can live happily alone in the world. Men need women, women need men; in marriage men and women are partners and the relationship is based on love.
    The home is a foundation of society, hence when a man and a woman live in love they teach their children to love, so that the children will then respect the opposite sex outside the home.

    It is usually the arrogant attitude that results in the complex relationships between men and women. Love and respect makes things easy.
    As they say, 'We are one, but not the same'.
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    Dec 24 2012: I don't know why people can't waver between the two positions according to the situation. Sometimes they might waver because it's advantageous to them. Sometimes they might waver because it's advantageous to the other person. Sometimes they might waver because it's advantageous to both, or advantageous to society.
  • Jan 22 2013: Why are gender roles against gender equality? Equality is the right to chose and be accepted. If I choose to stay at home and look after my children that should be accepted and respected. Often times it is not. It is looked down on. That isn't equality. People get mixed up with equality and being the same. Men and women are not the same!
  • Dec 30 2012: Under gender equality people can still choose gender roles, under gender roles there is no choice, different people will be most comfortable with different choices. So it seems that gender equality is better.
  • Dec 30 2012: Gender equality is something I would go for. The world today is changing too fast, everybody can earn for themselves and each one of us has her/his own ego. Hence, this isn't the age for chauvinism. Everyone aspires to be independent and although having someone else to pay for the date might be good for the purse, it certainly isn't good for the independence or the ego. Besides, it's not the 'role' or 'duty' of anyone gender to take care of the other. The world has come a long way and we all can stand on our feet now. Why then, to think of each gender having a specific role? And then again, gender roles increase prejudices and stereotypes against any one gender. So, be happy, be independent.
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    Dec 25 2012: The philosophy of our instincts or ancestor’s successful experiences saved in DNA “creates better long lasting relationship Gender roles or Gender Equality” :

    6. Marriage (Primary Symbiosis)
    Marriage is one of the most important parts of human primary symbiosis.
    A. Origin
    Marriage was originated after biological evolution progressed from asexual propagation to sexual one. It is so because the sexual propagation can cope with all kinds of difficulties much easier than the asexual one.
    B. Definition
    Biologically speaking, marriage is one whole bio-entity or co-body consisting of a couple of husband and wife.
    This couple is integrated spiritually in order to keep both their DNA alive in their offspring's body ---- a better new carrier for keeping their DNA alive than both old individuals of the husband and wife.
    That is why a marriage couple sleeps in a bed and works as close together as possible.
    Also, this is where the kiss, embrace, and etc. come from.
    D. Mechanism
    Marriage woks just as one whole spiritually inseparable biological machine made of two halves-parts.
    a. Husband
    The husband half is biologically assigned in charge of food-seeking, habitat constructing, defending, donating all kinds of co-body-safety messages ceaselessly to his wife (kissing, embracing, and so on) .
    His ability and smartness come mainly from the ceaseless intimate encouragement of the other half of the marriage ---- the wife.
    b. Wife
    The wife is biologically assigned in charge of the child bearing, child bring up, house hold, and etc.
    She transfers all the physical substantial materials from her own body into the baby’s. Also, she exhausts all her spiritual energy to bring up the baby or child ---- the DNA-carrier of both the husband and wife.
    That is where her mother-greatness and beauty come from.
    (From "Be Happy Validly!)
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    Dec 24 2012: "Therefore a man shall leave his father and his mother and hold fast to his wife, and they shall become one flesh."(genesis 2.24)
    In marriage at least we can be considered as the same person. Although we have our different roles, we are to consider the needs of our spouse before our own, so each fulfils their respective role gladly to benefit the other. This is not achievable in the real world, but is an ideal to aim for.
    Even out with marriage; if we each put the needs of others before our own, then demarcation would disappear. So at the root of the problem we have selfishness, which is admittedly an insurmountable obstacle that we have to live with meantime.
    "And he sat down and called the twelve. And he said to them, "If anyone would be first, he must be last of all and servant of all." (Mark 9.35)

  • Dec 24 2012: I guess you believe in Gender Roles more than Gender Equality, yes?
    There are more than just two genders and they all deserve fairness and equality in terms of what we need in order to live, as we all slave along by the sweat of our brows.
    We should not discriminate along any gender lines. Simple.
    Roles should be determined by each individual, as they see fit, particularly in any free society, without fear and without the threat of any agencies spreading lies about those who are "different".

    Long lasting relationships are sometimes a myth, or a miss. Real trust and respect helps build long ones, but if society arbitrarily makes up rules (roles), then relationships are strained to the breaking point. Today, there are so many stresses and pressures put on the family environment, that like most environments today, they are failing.
    It seems to me that a society that valued equal respect rather than roles would stand a better chance of becoming a healthy society. As it is right now, societies are all very ill. The ones that are currently falling apart stand a better chance of coming together and being healthy than the ones that are just holding on to the roles and lies they have been fed.
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    Dec 24 2012: Have you read Men are from Venus and Women are from Mars?
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    Dec 24 2012: Do you think the referred subjects are Philosophies ?
    Don't want to jump into defining Philosophy.......however I feel those more Social Thoughts then Philosophy.