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An idea worth spreading

it's a mess, always been a mess, always be a mess. so let's get on with

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  • A reply on Conversation: Inject a poison into bluefin tuna that make them toxic to human but not themselves or their predators.

    Apr 17 2013: i wouldn't either. but worth contemplating as it is loaded with ethic issues.
  • A reply on Conversation: Inject a poison into bluefin tuna that make them toxic to human but not themselves or their predators.

    Apr 17 2013: thanks for all this. i know it is a ritualistic buy and doesn't reflect the current market price but it does send a message to the world of what their are willing to pay in the future. really i appreciate your help in getting real facts.
    it doesn't take away the rest of the issues.
    i will read the links you sent me.
  • A reply on Conversation: Inject a poison into bluefin tuna that make them toxic to human but not themselves or their predators.

    Apr 15 2013: i am sure someone is working or has worked out the toxins in the "chemical war fare" departement.
    that idea is also laced with some kind of dark humour and extremism.
    the radioactivities found in certain fish following the nuclear disaster in Japan do just that. but i don't know what it does to the fish.
  • A comment on Talk: Dan Barber: How I fell in love with a fish

    Mar 23 2013: thank you Dan by the way. i often get carried away.
  • A comment on Talk: Dan Barber: How I fell in love with a fish

    Mar 23 2013: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tlLeTc9njjQ

    this is every single day 365 days a year
    a month ago a blue fin tuna went for 1.7 million dollars. granted it was a ritual buy, but it gives away the signal. people kill each other for a lot less than that.

    the western "democratic world" won't control the human population that keeps rising.

    hope is good we need it, but you will unfortunatly not stop the taking of wild fishes from the sea,
    maybe a couple of pockets will be able to do the right thing, and i will personaly keep trying (trying to establish a no take zone in a community almost entirely consisting of fisherman or connected to that industry. from substenance level to bigger operation like you see in that video if you watch it.
    the end of the line focused on the main commercial species, but the way it is going we truly need to wake up.

    the most sustainable fishes in the sea are the herbivores, and plancton feeders, that grow fast.
    the top predators are almost all gone(someone can give you percentage for that one.)
    the few last place to see top predators are kept there becasue there is a billions dollars industry of diving and related activities or a military industrial complex that can keep humanity under her thumb.
    chinese long liners are already getting disatched in the pacific for when the purse seiners will go out of business. the price of fish will keep rising, and as long as someone is willing to pay for it, someone will steal it even from a reserve.
    it doesn't make the news but even if everyone applause the new shark ban and so on, if the prices is "right" a whole underground network will provide it.
    everyone is making money or trying too and in percentage in giving very very very little in return.
    it is a complete mess.
    as long as money is the "ultimate power" there is no chance for the fish.

    having said that invent a chemical that render the fish toxic for human consumption (reverse biological warfare)

    i hope i am wrong. time will tell.
  • A reply on Conversation: "No Take" fishing area owned by local communities as fish-producing factories

    Nov 5 2012: there are many instances where the concept of no take zone have proven successful. the chalenges is usually the specifics of a particular region, in this instance a area that was throughout history was a pirate hub, where opportunistic behaviours are the norm, corruption institutionalised, and future visions based on common sense good topics of conversations with little effect on the daily life.
    the first mind set to get out is this:
    if i don't take it, someone else will.

    and hard to convince anyone of the opposite. part of the big planetary mess we are in.


    thanks for your mind/time/energy

    michel
  • A reply on Conversation: "No Take" fishing area owned by local communities as fish-producing factories

    Nov 5 2012: a eco resort will provide the initial compensation, as a entrance fee to the area.

    the part that i think is new is the formulation of the fish factory, rather than using bank account analogy, or scientific explanation for a no take zone. it resonate better with the local community. the idea of no take zone is very mainstream in environment circle.

    the new could be that most of the funds goes to the bottom of the financial piramid, rather than having been funneled through the top, where only drops usually get to the bottom end of the economic ladder.

    hope it answers the question.
  • A reply on Conversation: "No Take" fishing area owned by local communities as fish-producing factories

    Nov 5 2012: thanks. what is happening is bigger potentially than the compensation, but the dinamics of the local community is quite complex.

    this is really the opening chapter.

    the local community has been approached before by a few numbers of organisation, promising a lot.
    you can only put on the table what you can acomplish with certainty.

    the initial funding comes from a eco resort in the form of a entrance fee to the area. most funds collected will go to the fisherman, but a small part is dedicated to what they call socialisation.

    the resort employs already more than a hundred people, in all types of area, from maintenance, service and housekeeping staff and so on, including suppliers and locally sourced produce.

    they will not completly stop fishing in the region as a life style, just agree to keep one place as a no take zone.

    the focus is to start with something concrete that people can see. there are many instances of succesful protected area, but doesn't help with the local community as what they are interested is what is now, in their region.

    after a couple of years and witnessing first hand some improvement, then there is room for all of the above that you mentioned. but until then it is mostly intelectual concepts and ideas.

    they do have the responsability of protecting their assets, by policing the area from other areas.

    thanks for bringing thought into this.

    michel
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    A reply on Talk: Sylvia Earle's TED Prize wish to protect our oceans

    Nov 1 2012: she is right, and might be even optimistic in her figure. unfortunatly only a handful of human had the privilege to have a true global oceanic education, and the one who do, mostly sailors/divers rarely have a chance or desire to speak, or ability.
    sylvia earle is the ultimate professional speaker, a craft mastered over decades of public speeches.
    from the dedicated divers with enough funds, they are brought to the last treasures left, the hot spots. same for the media. extremes sells.
    10 percent of the big fish? most likely less.
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    A reply on Talk: Sylvia Earle's TED Prize wish to protect our oceans

    Nov 1 2012: money is the best fuel available right now to make things move. but before donating it research for the most efficient engine(organisation), other wise most will be wasted on too big overheads where only a few trickle of it reaches it's desired destination.
    big organisation follow in some weird way the corporation models gulping up the funds that could reach smaller localised organisation that don't have the money to launch massive fundraising campaign.

    that said, even one dollar in the right hands at the end of the line can affect real changes.
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