Sanyu Nagenda

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Sanyu Nagenda
Posted almost 3 years ago
Name one thing you've learned from another TEDster.
Hello Matthieu, I've been on a bit of hiatus here, but it's nice to come back to such an interesting topic on the first page of TEDConv! What I've learned from TEDsters, particularly you in many cases actually, is that even a heated debate/argument/disagreement is an opportunity to have an honest and interesting conversation. It's unfortunate, but I don't think it's a common practice anymore that adversity is seen as an opportunity for growth, learning and necessary expansion. Particularly adversity connected to conversation. Yet I come here to TEDConversations and I don't always agree with everybody, but, because I've come here to learn, I can accept the adverse conversations as neutral and necessary lessons. It's a relief actually! I would hate to not be able to coexist with people I don't always agree with...I'd be limiting myself to a very small territory if I did I'm sure. Cheers! Sanyu
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Sanyu Nagenda
Posted about 3 years ago
Beyond just science and religion, let's converse about the INFINITE implications of the purpose of ALL life. What does Existence stem from?
Hey Carlin! Perhaps it is that you cannot "see" everything in order to determine the truth of it. Particularly, I do not think you would "see any evidence" of a sentient atom. I hardly think they care to communicate in that way, as it's quite laborious and even our species had to develop these complicated meat bodies in order to facilitate the auditory and visionary senses it seems we rely so heavily upon. Do you think that blind people are less knowledgeable as a result of being blind? Or perhaps less realistic? I don't. I think they just "see" things differently. I don't have any reason to believe that it's not the same for any living organism (and there are soooooooooooo many) even if they do not "speak my language." That comic is super cute, by the way, and I actually don't differ so differently from it either. However, a place where not even sadness can exist sounds like a kind of awesome place. A void can be a positive place, if it allows for the stillness of presence in the present. At the end of the day, I greatly appreciate my bodily senses and I value their usefulness; BUT I do not consider them the end all be all, or even the pinnacle, of my ability to asses truth. I've enjoyed our conversation, I thank you very much for jumping in and giving me insight into another worldview on this great planet in this vast and wonderful existence!
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Sanyu Nagenda
Posted about 3 years ago
Beyond just science and religion, let's converse about the INFINITE implications of the purpose of ALL life. What does Existence stem from?
Hello Carlin, I see the you take things very literally and that for you things are very concretely one thing or the other. That is very likely necessary for whatever lifestyle and worldview you maintain, but it does not make getting my point across to you (in a way that computes) very easy. That is fine as I don't generally expect things to be easy, but I'm just prefacing what I'm to say next with that statement so that you know where I'm coming from. "But not ALL life IS perpetuated. Have you met any Sumerians lately, or any Neanderthals (present company excepted)? Or the beings whose planet orbited the ex-sun, and recent supernova, in the Whirlpool Galaxy (M51)?" It seems you think that "life" is an isolated thing for each living thing. I do not "see" things that way. A Sumerian is a Homo Sapiens Sapiens, as far as I'm concerned, so yes I certainly see that their lives are perpetuated by their ancestry. Their ancestry being their species, not their "race" or "nationality." It is true that Neanderthals were not so "lucky" in the perpetuation department, but allow me to borrow from the Lion King for a moment and say they paid their existence forward to future living things even in their death. Death and life are not mutually exclusive or isolated things. They each require the other to have definition to begin with, so they are mutually inclusive and very participatory as far as I have observed. Just because our species has chosen to live against sustainability and renewal does not mean that the rest of existence doesn't get along relatively nicely considering the circumstances. "I think the notion that some sentient being decided to create our existence is more of a crock than a crack." I think you are also taking my reference to a sentient being a bit literally. To you, it would seem that a being must have a "body" and must have appendages and opposable thumbs. I do not see beings in this way. An atom is a being, as it IS being, so far as I'm concerned.
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Sanyu Nagenda
Posted about 3 years ago
Beyond just science and religion, let's converse about the INFINITE implications of the purpose of ALL life. What does Existence stem from?
Are you implying that only what you can ascertain to have purpose has meaning? What about all the knowledge "we" haven't gained yet? Certainly greater consciousness cannot be reached without considering something other than what one has "known." While I appreciate Hitcherhiker's Guide to the Galaxyesque considerations of the infinite possibilities of the omniuniverse, and I truly do; I also recognize that a "lab experiment by a seven-eyed, five-footed, and three; tentacled being (beards or no)" is certainly possible (considering the infinite possibilities) but in comparison to a sentient creation "particle" or "thing" - the unifying basis of life, whatever it is - I consider the former to be less likely. It seems you do not, which is what it is and I don't have a problem with your opinion. I do thank you for sharing it and engaging in conversation!
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Sanyu Nagenda
Posted about 3 years ago
Beyond just science and religion, let's converse about the INFINITE implications of the purpose of ALL life. What does Existence stem from?
Also, I agree with your thoughts on String Theory. As to the holographic projection, I actually talk a bit about that on my blog - though granted in ENTIRELY different language. You can check it out here if you would like: http://getattheroot.blogspot.com/2011/05/before-time.html At the least it will likely give you some insight into where my particular thinking stems from.
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Sanyu Nagenda
Posted about 3 years ago
Beyond just science and religion, let's converse about the INFINITE implications of the purpose of ALL life. What does Existence stem from?
Hey Carlin, I see what you are saying about units of time. Noted. But let's talk about the purpose of life and where existence stems from! Do you really think it strange that people derive meaning from such a purposeful omniuniverse? Doesn't EVERY SINGLE THING in this existence serve a purpose in and of itself? By "exalted purpose" I imagine you mean some big dude in the sky with a beard, but I personally don't think it unlikely that "the Creator" - aka WHATEVER created this Existence - is sentient. I hardly think hominids are the only sentient species in the ENTIRE omniuniverse...I mean, if that were the case it would be a disappointment at best and a waste at worst. I also wouldn't say, "why should there be any purpose to life other than perpetuating life" as if that in itself is some SMALL task. I mean, PERPETUATING ALL OF LIFE? That's a LOT OF WORK! Assuming things are genuinely constantly expanding at an ever increasing rate and considering the technical details of creation from the atom to the galaxy system, I actually can't help but determine that perpetuating life is probably the most PURPOSEFUL thing that can be done in all of Existence. Many things have lives, after all. Sure there's us, the hominids, and bugs, plants, trees, healthy water systems and animals...but ideas also have lives and companionship takes on its own life and activities take on their own lives and planets, and solar systems and galaxies and dark matter and expansion and....I mean, you see what I'm saying here? It's no small task, it's not easy, it's an overwhelming responsibility for whatever decided to get this Existence party crackin' in the first place. Must be a lot of love innately built into Existence for some THING to perpetuate EVERYTHING. Especially considering how poorly our species does on the creation front...were I "the Creator" I probably would have ended our hominid lives here on Earth a whiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiillle ago. So whatever is putting up with us is a G!