Joyce van der Hoorn

Zeitgeist Movement
Almere, Netherlands

About Joyce


Dutch, English

I'm passionate about

Music, Zeitgeist Movement, radical positive thinking, bassguitars, inspiration, motivation

People don't know I'm good at

Analyzing real life situations and emotions, even when I'm not involved.

Comments & conversations

Joyce van der Hoorn
Posted about 4 years ago
Sam Richards: A radical experiment in empathy
I would like to explain something about the Bible. I was raised a Christian (but I 'quit' that a few years ago). Before I quit, though, I decided to read the Bible so I could form my own perspective without the personal additions of a priest or fanatic religious person. Guess what I found. The Bible tells us to kill infidels, stone women when they cheat, kill women who are being raped but don't call out for help or refuse to marry their rapist... I got confused when I read this part. A classmate of mine happened to be a Muslim and she heard me discuss this issue with another classmate. She joined the conversation. Bottom line: the Old Testament and the first part of the Quran are IDENTICAL but in a different language. The difference: The Muslims follow Adam, Noah, Moses.... but not Jesus. They follow Mohammed. Who has a lot of similarities with Jesus Christ, but is not the son of God, just a prophet. Christians even have hymns (mainly Latin, so I bet a lot don't even know) where they liuterally ask God to smite down all those who are opposed to him (or, infidels..?) In other words, coming back to what may or may not be an empathy experiment: I bet that there are a lot of Muslims who consider Christians to be pretty much the same when it comes to their belief, as the way you described the beliefs of the average Muslim. I would like a Muslim and/or other Christian to second this motion, by the way... I would like to state that I am in no way a religious fanatic. Not Muslim, not Christian, not Jewish or anything. I just think that there are too many people who don't know enough about christianity and/or know 'too much' about Islam, to provide a full view on this matter. (Not you personally,Aaron, but a lot of participants in this discussion).