Apr 4 2011: For me I am agnostic bordering on atheist, I was christian, in fact my dad is a minister. My thing is that there are wayyyyyyy to many condridictions within the idea of god for me to beleive in one. I think that the idea of a compasionate god comes from mankinds need to true compassion. But I feel that the only place you need to look for it is in oneself. Why ask an invisble man for it. It might sound mean, I don't want it to, but how can you receive love from others if you don't love yourself and put your full confidence in yourself first. It doesn't matter how much someone tells you if you don't beleive you are worthy of it. And thats the basis of religion your not worthy of eternal happiness unless you do these things. Well I'm here to tell you you are worthy of anything you want you just have to work for it.
Apr 4 2011: My other question is this, why is god not talking to his beleivers like he did the those that wrote the books of the bible? And maybe he is, have you seen the guys walking down the street talking to themselves we dismiss as crazie. Well maybe they are the new apostles? Why are they crazie what if they are having a divine moment. Or maybe they are crazie, and what if maybe just maybe all those years ago before we understood mental disorders these people that god spoke to and wrote the bilble were also crazy, they just didn't know it? IF you are willing to beleive that a man a few thousand years ago was talked to by god but call people today who say that they killed for god crazy, what is the difference?
Apr 4 2011: I happen to agree with you Jimmy, the burden of proof does lie with whom needs to be convinced. One of my favorite cartoons is a four panle short in one a person says I have a ball, the other says prove it, the first shows him a ball, and the second says why yes you do. Then it show the same thing guy says I have a ball, second guy says prove, the first yells at the second " YOU CAN'T PROVE THAT I DON'T" well thats the problem. I don't have to show you proof. I'm an atheis and I don't feel the need to disprove god, I did that for a while and frankly, I got tired of it.My father is a minister and trust me he's done everything short of mind control to convince and it hasn't worked yet. Every convo I have with him starts out intelegent then goes down hill until it's the same answer over and over, well thats what the bible says and the bible is gods word. Well that's waht harry potter says and it's Rowling's word.
Apr 4 2011: I am a recent Agnostic/athiest I love the Idea of being a Moralist. I haven't been able to tell my family, whom are die hard christians, that I no longer beleive the same way they do. But I think it might make it easier to tell them I'm no longer a christian not athiest but a Moralist.
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