2 days ago: Well I am having mixed fillings about your argument, and at the end it seems like you haven't been able to put yourself in "the shoes" of the poor.
Remember that it is the biggest number of individuals in the world, this is rofly 90%...
What conditioning has to be given at school, to let aside billions of people and fill fine about it?...
A lot of people seem to forget that we are surrounded by tech, (people we are not in the 50's anymore!)
This tech has the power to help us all, so there is no need of having people in misery at all... of this I am certain, I know this because between other things...I am a Industrial designer, so my duty is know this stuff.
If there is misery is thanks to ireflexive people, that for some odd reason seem to pollute our society.
Now, such people were trained to be in that way.... and the system has been very forgiving towards them, a thing that in other topics/ordeals would be unthinkable... and people would grant a expression of discontent.
People please remember that just in USA more than 500 billion are spent each year into a school system that wont give any proper skill set!, also remember that this is the norm world wide!, so all the countries schools are failing! and badly!... millions of poor are dying because of this, billions more are suffering greatly because of this.
This is not a small problem at all!!, it is one of the biggest ones out there... (if not the biggest one)...
the problem is so big... it reverberates in the entire world!, no one is save or escapes from it, all the ecosystems are in jeopardy thanks to this very thing... it doesn't matter if you are very rich as all around you is being affected...so you are to...
So distorted/conditioned are some people that with no remorse, will try to defend a failed system of education...
There are some things that you are mentioning that sound appealing yet when seen twice there seems to be a conflict, lets see this more carefully...
kids are curious by nature... they are kids!
There are already an overwhelming amount of people ho are just doing menial jobs because their school didn't teach them skills to get a job in any field at all!!.
Parents send their kids to school so one day they will have a job, now the poor class is not the same as the wealthy at all, the poor don't have any one to save them, only them self's.
so drastic is the difference that many have to leave school for good, never to go back, this at a very early age... lets say at only 8 years old, yet it may be at 9, 10, etc...
There should be a system for them, the schools should act according to the reality of the poor person and not to the dreams of someone ho is just going for a pay check!
I find that there is way more people unemployed and unhappy as things are today than if the education system did what I have suggested.
how do I know this, well I just look at any school at random, and I find that non of them teaches the skills for a job, they all stuff general (irrelevant) knowledge to the individual, regardless of his real need for skills!
then chaos happens...
the kid needs to work yet regardless of being in school for more than 8 years and regardless of all the efforts of the parents...they cant do any job!... they don't know how!... so they have to relay on people outside the school!.. to learn something that may bring food to the table!... they are done...
Wile I do agree with you in that regard, lets not shot our own feet!
Bill has the power to do great things, lets help him channel all those resources to the right place,...
(for instance... to my bank account!)... ha ha
Now the man does not come empty handed... he is very polite and professional, more importantly, he has invested in finding the knowledge on how to fix problems that society is confronted with.
I thing that most of the world desperately needs...
Now if he can make a profit in the process... ho cares, only his competitors...
competitors, that most of the time are well integrated with the bunch of people ho do not help!
May 9 2013: so you then tell me how good is a school, if after more than 8 years of classes a person ends up being a cashier or a sales person?
your argument seems to defeat its self in no more than 2 paragraphs!
you seem to give more importance to the value of random knowledge than to the value of human well being.
This world is run, and ruled by money, if you don't have money you are condemned to misery.
this is a fact, so unless you are rich your goal is to make money, how much?, well as much to pay the bills,... dentist, insurance (high monthly fee), transportation, tuition etc,
lets say that one would need the skills to make 100Grand in a year or 2
Anything less than that, and you are being scammed badly!, you are being used as slave labor!
it is nor smart nor polite to question the motives of the guy ho has opted to help in a way no one has done, after all thanks to him is that life has improved in such a remarkable way, so I imagine that if you like to live well you better like people like bill, no one has forced him to help yet he does it a remarkable way, I only wish that he could donate to me!, some money as things are quite critical over here... a thing I doubt you, my dear, would do...
May 9 2013: lets not forget that as much as 90% of the world goes to school because they need the skills to have a job that really pays, so to be able to afford to have a proper life,
so unless rich,
the student does NOT NEED random general knowledge, they need the skills of a JOB,
they need the most effective techniques, and nothing less...
leave random general knowledge as a hobby a person may opt to take... never as the main component or goal
May 9 2013: nice topic, by the way it's impressive to know that the country is having such problems, I would like to see this fixed ASAP.
Not only that but I would like to see the international community doing the same.
Further more, it is clear that there are countries where the investment in education is ridiculously low, I would like to see real punishments to those ho dare to taint the lives of the people by forcing them to a infamous education.
I have seen Schools where hatred is nourished at school, where the skills are really worthless...
The problem is so big that I don't know where to start, but I bet we all know many examples.
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Remember that it is the biggest number of individuals in the world, this is rofly 90%...
What conditioning has to be given at school, to let aside billions of people and fill fine about it?...
A lot of people seem to forget that we are surrounded by tech, (people we are not in the 50's anymore!)
This tech has the power to help us all, so there is no need of having people in misery at all... of this I am certain, I know this because between other things...I am a Industrial designer, so my duty is know this stuff.
If there is misery is thanks to ireflexive people, that for some odd reason seem to pollute our society.
Now, such people were trained to be in that way.... and the system has been very forgiving towards them, a thing that in other topics/ordeals would be unthinkable... and people would grant a expression of discontent.
People please remember that just in USA more than 500 billion are spent each year into a school system that wont give any proper skill set!, also remember that this is the norm world wide!, so all the countries schools are failing! and badly!... millions of poor are dying because of this, billions more are suffering greatly because of this.
This is not a small problem at all!!, it is one of the biggest ones out there... (if not the biggest one)...
the problem is so big... it reverberates in the entire world!, no one is save or escapes from it, all the ecosystems are in jeopardy thanks to this very thing... it doesn't matter if you are very rich as all around you is being affected...so you are to...
So distorted/conditioned are some people that with no remorse, will try to defend a failed system of education...
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There are some things that you are mentioning that sound appealing yet when seen twice there seems to be a conflict, lets see this more carefully...
kids are curious by nature... they are kids!
There are already an overwhelming amount of people ho are just doing menial jobs because their school didn't teach them skills to get a job in any field at all!!.
Parents send their kids to school so one day they will have a job, now the poor class is not the same as the wealthy at all, the poor don't have any one to save them, only them self's.
so drastic is the difference that many have to leave school for good, never to go back, this at a very early age... lets say at only 8 years old, yet it may be at 9, 10, etc...
There should be a system for them, the schools should act according to the reality of the poor person and not to the dreams of someone ho is just going for a pay check!
I find that there is way more people unemployed and unhappy as things are today than if the education system did what I have suggested.
how do I know this, well I just look at any school at random, and I find that non of them teaches the skills for a job, they all stuff general (irrelevant) knowledge to the individual, regardless of his real need for skills!
then chaos happens...
the kid needs to work yet regardless of being in school for more than 8 years and regardless of all the efforts of the parents...they cant do any job!... they don't know how!... so they have to relay on people outside the school!.. to learn something that may bring food to the table!... they are done...
the schools have failed... and drastically
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Wile I do agree with you in that regard, lets not shot our own feet!
Bill has the power to do great things, lets help him channel all those resources to the right place,...
(for instance... to my bank account!)... ha ha
Now the man does not come empty handed... he is very polite and professional, more importantly, he has invested in finding the knowledge on how to fix problems that society is confronted with.
I thing that most of the world desperately needs...
Now if he can make a profit in the process... ho cares, only his competitors...
competitors, that most of the time are well integrated with the bunch of people ho do not help!
We need help and Bill is wiling to help,
let him help!...
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your argument seems to defeat its self in no more than 2 paragraphs!
you seem to give more importance to the value of random knowledge than to the value of human well being.
This world is run, and ruled by money, if you don't have money you are condemned to misery.
this is a fact, so unless you are rich your goal is to make money, how much?, well as much to pay the bills,... dentist, insurance (high monthly fee), transportation, tuition etc,
lets say that one would need the skills to make 100Grand in a year or 2
Anything less than that, and you are being scammed badly!, you are being used as slave labor!
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what are you talking about...
they already have it...
if not in USA in the rest of the world...
and they abuse of it in every possible way in a daily basis... its obscene!
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it is nor smart nor polite to question the motives of the guy ho has opted to help in a way no one has done, after all thanks to him is that life has improved in such a remarkable way, so I imagine that if you like to live well you better like people like bill, no one has forced him to help yet he does it a remarkable way, I only wish that he could donate to me!, some money as things are quite critical over here... a thing I doubt you, my dear, would do...
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so unless rich,
the student does NOT NEED random general knowledge, they need the skills of a JOB,
they need the most effective techniques, and nothing less...
leave random general knowledge as a hobby a person may opt to take... never as the main component or goal
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Not only that but I would like to see the international community doing the same.
Further more, it is clear that there are countries where the investment in education is ridiculously low, I would like to see real punishments to those ho dare to taint the lives of the people by forcing them to a infamous education.
I have seen Schools where hatred is nourished at school, where the skills are really worthless...
The problem is so big that I don't know where to start, but I bet we all know many examples.
Entire generations destroyed, brilliant minds crippled...
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I doubt that you have contact or the knowledge of the works and thoughts of the infinite number of economist that you have just mentioned...
why don't you just give us a better option instead of leaving us nowhere
it is so simple to trash people...