Fabio Buffa Posted 12 months ago How does the sum total of ALL US healthcare costs compare to the sum total of ALL US health insurance premiums paid by Americans, annually? Neil, Great hearing from you. And here of all places. LOL So we have it: Civil rights= not needed for human health and happiness, BUT helpful in establishing/maintaining societal equilibrium, social justice acquired by citizens through political action, (at least in a democracy) can be withheld from citizens through political action by opposing factions enforced/by government once established Human Rights = unalienable, protected by the constitution, (in theory) absolutely required in order to have health and happiness Not bestowed by any power or authority other than shared human experience, This is a hasty and rudimentary attempt at defining the two kinds of rights, based partially on your post and my thought responses to it. there is probably some overlap. Revisions from any viewers are welcome. Just copy and paste it into a new comment with your revisions. I think I will make this a new question for discussion and post the link here later. Stay in touch!