Sailesh Rao

Phoenix, AZ, United States

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Sailesh Rao
Posted about 2 months ago
Allan Savory: How to fight desertification and reverse climate change
Clearly, Allan Savory's claims are counter-intuitive and contrary to evidence available to date. It is a fact that the more livestock we bred, the faster the desertification that has occurred until the planet now has one vast desert from the western edge of the Sahara in North Africa all the way into India as the Thar desert and into China as the Gobi desert. The burden of proof is on Mr. Savory that this desertification phenomenon could have been avoided and even now, reversed, if only people had used his proposed techniques. Perhaps he can begin by transporting all the world's livestock herds into the Sahara and then, greening it in the process? But the more academically credentialed authors below also believe that he will fail: http://www.bioone.org/doi/ref/10.2111/RANGELANDS-D-13-00044.1
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Sailesh Rao
Posted 5 months ago
Richard Ledgett: The NSA responds to Edward Snowden’s TED Talk
It is clear that Snowden is an extremely intelligent, thirty year old young man. Of course he would go to the countries that have the wherewithal to stand up to the United States. After all, countries "friendly" to the US were collaborating with the US to bring down the airplane of President Evo Morales, all based on the suspicion that Edward Snowden was aboard. But the issue is not Snowden, the person, but what he revealed. In that respect, a Federal judge has already ruled that the NSA's activities were Orwellian. Fortunately, the US Constitution cannot be construed to create an Orwellian state. Ergo, Snowden is a whistle blower, plain and simple, and deserves to be treated as such by the wielders of such unauthorized Orwellian powers. We, the people, now need to stand up and make sure of that...
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Sailesh Rao
Posted 6 months ago
Steven Pinker and Rebecca Newberger Goldstein: The long reach of reason
“The intuitive mind is a sacred gift and the rational mind is a faithful servant. We have created a society that honors the servant and has forgotten the gift.” - Albert Einstein. Is it any wonder that we need to reason with our rational mind in order to effect change? But unless the intuitive mind, i.e., our emotions, indicate that the unjust practice - for example, the exploitation of animals - is antithetical to our values, we won't listen to reason. It is intuition that tells us that we are doing something wrong when we can't imagine taking our school children to visit slaughterhouses, but we can take them apple picking. Otherwise, our rational mind is very clever at rationalizing almost anything - for example, exploiting animals is normal, necessary and above all, natural!
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Sailesh Rao
Posted over 1 year ago
Allan Savory: How to fight desertification and reverse climate change
Benjamin Barrington, thanks for the clarification! Unfortunately, as Dr. McDougal said, "People like to hear good news about their bad habits," and the interpretation I used has been the common one on the internet. As someone who's watching the forests die out in India from livestock overgrazing, I find Mr. Savory's choice of words and the ensuing interpretation to be truly distressing.
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Sailesh Rao
Posted over 1 year ago
Allan Savory: How to fight desertification and reverse climate change
George Weurthner's video contains devastating critiques of many of Mr. Savory's claims. Unfortunately, this self-selection of only success stories becomes an echo chamber as any failures are discarded as "poor execution". Please understand that all systems implemented by humans will have to assume flawed executions.
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Sailesh Rao
Posted over 1 year ago
Allan Savory: How to fight desertification and reverse climate change
It is from a systems perspective that I used cost as the litmus test for the claims. Cost encapsulates all the variables in one measure and if the claim is that the recovery process is sustainable and can be done in desert areas where land is dirt cheap and no additional inputs are needed besides the rotational grazing, then the cost has to be less than for other methods where people have to truck in soy, corn, protein meal and antibiotics and pile up the manure under tarpaulins. We all know that if livestock is managed properly, the land could flourish and even sequester carbon, but the question is whether demand for livestock products has skyrocketed to the point where it has become fundamentally detrimental to the health of the planet.
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Posted over 1 year ago
Allan Savory: How to fight desertification and reverse climate change
While Holistic management techniques may have allowed people in local instances to triple or quadruple their livestock population and green the landscape, we are being asked to leap from such local instances to conclude that what the planet needs is a global tripling or quadrupling of its livestock population in order to turn the Sahara green and reverse climate change. However, even in those local instances presented by Mr. Savory, if people had increased their livestock 5 or 6 fold, they would surely have exceeded the carrying capacity of their land, leading to desertification. Therefore, the question before us is whether our planet is over-saturated with livestock or whether it is lacking in them. At present, nearly 60 billion animals are raised and killed for food annually, while a Florida-sized area of tropical forests is being razed down every two years mainly to support the livestock industry, even as the industry is creating enormous biotic dead zones at the mouths of every major river on the planet. The evidence in front of our eyes is that the planet is over-saturated with livestock. I claim that if Mr. Savory's local feats are applicable at a global scale, then ethically raised meat would become cheaper than factory farmed meat at any supermarket. That is the litmus test. If Mr. Savory fails that test, then he must concede that the planet is over-saturated with livestock and stop extrapolating from his local feats to a global prescription. The last thing he would want is to be held responsible for the extinction of elephants, which is a far worse guilt to carry to his grave than shooting 40,000 of them.
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Sailesh Rao
Posted over 1 year ago
Allan Savory: How to fight desertification and reverse climate change
Juan Doe, If Mr. Savory's techniques will produce livestock feed on land + allow the tripling of livestock population on land compared to standard industry practices, then there must be a clear cost advantage to such holistic management. Standard industry practices require corn, soy, protein meal and antibiotics to be hauled in to feed animals in CAFOs plus the manure has to be collected in large piles and shielded from the elements. These practices cost money. Therefore, for the claims to be scientifically valid, ethically raised meat ought to be cheaper than factory farmed meat at any supermarket, for it requires no external input whatsoever, other than a well-trained sheep dog. If such a cost advantage cannot be achieved, then there is something wrong with the picture that's being painted.