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Eric Schulke
Posted 9 months ago
Movement for indefinite life extension: Why, why we should think we can and what we can do to help get there.
Yes, it is for each person to decide. It is critical that we allow people the ability to choose for their self, rather than forgoing such technology and advances so that only the people that choose to die can have their choice. If people want to die, that is up to them, but stopping the rest of the world from having the choice is wrong. There will be a lot of adapting to do, that's right. We have gone through it with things like transitioning to farming, then to industry, to the tech era, etc. It's not always easy, but humanity seems to be getting better at it, as we're shuffling through transitions to the future at ever accelerating rates these days. With life secured, and potentially, things like nearly limitless energy, nearly ubiquitous production of goods and services by robots, etc, it seems that we will have the chance to help clean up many of the rest of the worlds problems and challenges in no time. I, for one, am eager to get there and cannot wait. Suffering is despicable, and through indefinite life extension, we can all be empowered to do something about it. With limitless life, there will be few excuses left for leaving injustices to thrive.
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Eric Schulke
Posted 9 months ago
Movement for indefinite life extension: Why, why we should think we can and what we can do to help get there.
Humans are a rare opportunity in this existence. Life is a mind-blowingly incredible chance, and the suffering of death is monstrous. "Every life is like a separate universe, the knowledge and perspectives that each person gathers during his or her lifetime is unique and precious. Death is decay and suffering, pure and simple – standing by and letting it happen to people is pure cruelty. We no longer live in the dark ages or prehistoric times; our societies are evolving and so must our mindsets. Stopping diseases like aging and various forms of death is paramount to our continued evolution. Every child grows up re-learning everything about the world, with limited tools, and is snuffed out before they get even to contemplate many of the next advancements and tools that they could have wielded, that would have freed them to the glorious next levels. What old rabbit wouldn’t jump out of its cage if the door were to finally be left open? Aging, other diseases, and death in general are like boulders and landslides littering the path of our evolution. What city or rural area chooses to go with dirt roads? What interstate landslide is left where it is? Short lifespan is ridiculous, aging and death shut down our opportunities." - http://immortallife.info/articles/entry/who-are-you-to-scoff-at-life "ask the 36,500,000+ people that are living in the fires of aging, getting set to die in this next year. That’s an astonishing 100,000 every single day until the war on aging is won. Ask the Hospice patients across the world, desperately trying to hold onto the homes they built around themselves, watching strangers flood into their personal worlds like medics coming to the aid of the bomb torn lives in battle. Ask them whether great sacrifice for this cause is worth it." - http://immortallife.info/articles/entry/ask-the-aged-if-they-suffer "You are a one trillion percent priceless commodity to this realm." - http://transhumanity.net/articles/entry/what-you-are
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Eric Schulke
Posted 9 months ago
Movement for indefinite life extension: Why, why we should think we can and what we can do to help get there.
I understand where you are coming from. We have been in that same general state of thinking in the past too. What we find is, and maybe you agree: 1. That's not assertable. There are plenty of hypothesis' building toward theories, and probably a variety of theories already (though its hard to assert that without consensus). You may ultimately be right but we don't know that yet. The movement for indefinite life extension supports the people, projects and organizations that are going there to see. This is morally imperative and something that we can increase the likelihood of happening in our lifetimes with world awareness. 2. Like I stated, population is on a decline in many industrialized countries (when you subtract immigration). Death isn't the go-to solution for this. I can't think of anything that death is the go-to solution for, though there might be. 3. Stating it that way, I can see what you mean. However, this is about giving people the choice. People can choose to live indefinitely or not, kill themselves, will still succumb to accidents and tragedies, can end their hypothetical life extension treatments, etc. The better version of that question, it seems to me, is, "is it ethical to prevent people from having the potential choice to live indefinitely". 4. I'm not sure what you mean, could you rephrase that?
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Eric Schulke
Posted 9 months ago
Movement for indefinite life extension: Why, why we should think we can and what we can do to help get there.
There are corrupt people in the world, many that do bad things now, and many that will do bad things in the future. They might abuse potential life extension therapies and treatments, but what we find, and you might agree, is that us letting ourselves die so they cant abuse us is not the solution to that. If, and that is the key word, if, they abuse it, then we’ll fight them for it, not die. For all the people that have wanted to harm other people throughout history, there are very few that I can name that killed themselves to solve the problem. Most of them have fought back, many of them have been victorious, and there is a great majesty in that. There is a great spirit to that, much greater than the spirit of death as the go-to solution when times might get tough.
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Eric Schulke
Posted 9 months ago
Movement for indefinite life extension: Why, why we should think we can and what we can do to help get there.
I know what you mean, but think about it, if the rich end up hording the cures, then death to all is not the go-to solution. Then also, and you might agree, the rich often times end up doing the world a favor by being the first to adopt new technologies, surgeries, therapies, etc. They act as the guinea pigs of sorts and help pay for the initial designs while they are improved and prices come down. In the 1980s, cell phones were thousands of dollars and only the rich could afford them, but now kids in third world countries have them. Same thing with HIV treatments, actually. Now they are being sent to places like Africa at $100 per treatment. As for people in other countries fighting us if only we have it, that is the way it is with many other things that greatly enhance life, many countries have them, many others don't, and that doesn't seem to be happening. I could be wrong though. If you have examples then please do share them here. As for population, upon first examination, I can understand that is how it seems. However, what we find is that population is on a decline in many industrialized countries. Before we use death as a solution for a potential population crisis, one out of many to choose from is continued industrialization of more of the world.