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Rob Martin
Posted over 1 year ago
Stephen Cave: The 4 stories we tell ourselves about death
An interesting talk. Have you ever considered that maybe there was a reason for you to fear death? Many people fear death, but I think the real fear has to do with the uncertainty of what happens AFTER DEATH. If nothing happens, then yes, I agree with everything that you have said. But what evidence have you seen to prove this is true? What about the huge number people who have had NDEs? Some even had out of body experiences where they were able to describe things that they saw on the roof of the hospital? As for me, it's the thought of eternal pain and suffering (Jesus referred to it as the "weeping and nashing of teeth") that is absolutely terrifying. Could this fear or "bias" have been placed within us to drive us to our creator to avoid such a fate? No? How can you be sure? Are you willing to take such a gamble with eternity? How did you come into existence? Big bang? Complex design, order, and intelligence from an explosion? It flies in the face of every law of scientific theory and it still doesn't expain where matter and energy came from. If Jesus really did rise from the dead 3 days later, which many have PROVEN to be the case (Simon Greenleaf for example) based on: 1) the willingness of witnesses of Jesus' life to experience a painful death, 2) Biblical prophesies of Jesus' death, life, and resurrection, 3) the non-existence of any conflicting accounts of his life, death, and resurrection (more than 150 years after the actual events occurred isn't reliable) then this proves that He is who he says He is. The Bible is clear that God wants no one to suffer an eternal fate of suffering. He doesn't change Himself to fit your belief, He just is what He is. Knowing what God said about eternal life, I have absolutely no fear of death or what lies after death, because my belief is in what is provable, which is BTW, the scientific method.
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Rob Martin
Posted over 1 year ago
How do you feel about death?
An interesting talk. Have you ever considered that maybe there was a reason for you to fear death? Many people fear death, but I think the real fear has to do with the uncertainty of what happens AFTER DEATH. If nothing happens, then yes, I agree with everything that you have said. But what evidence have you seen to prove this is true? What about the huge number people who have had NDEs? Some even had out of body experiences where they were able to describe things that they saw on the roof of the hospital? As for me, it's the thought of eternal pain and suffering (Jesus referred to it as the "weeping and nashing of teeth") that is absolutely terrifying. Could this fear or "bias" have been placed within us to drive us to our creator to avoid such a fate? No? How can you be sure? Are you willing to take such a gamble with eternity? How did you come into existence? Big bang? Complex design, order, and intelligence from an explosion? It flies in the face of every law of scientific theory and it still doesn't expain where matter and energy came from. If Jesus really did rise from the dead 3 days later, which many have PROVEN to be the case (Simon Greenleaf for example) based on: 1) the willingness of witnesses of Jesus' life to experience a painful death, 2) Biblical prophesies of Jesus' death, life, and resurrection, 3) the non-existence of any conflicting accounts of his life, death, and resurrection (more than 150 years after the actual events occurred isn't reliable) then this proves that He is who he says He is. The Bible is clear that God wants no one to suffer an eternal fate of suffering. He doesn't change Himself to fit your belief, He just is what He is. Knowing what God said about eternal life, I have absolutely no fear of death or what lies after death, because my belief is in what is provable, which is BTW, the scientific method.