"What will the world be like without monsters? The monster is ourselves our hope and fear. We created it and it killed us in our sleep... The monster does not remember its beginning because it began with us. It was born within our history. We talk things into reality to convince ourselves that we exist. And now the most vicious blow of all, to kill a creature by proving to it that he is a figment of our imagination."
From the movie 'No Such Thing'
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Consciousness is nonphysical it can transcend the body
There are eternal ides and forms that are not physical like a perfect circle or justice thy can only be grasp by consciousness. Only something eternal and nonphysical can grasp something eternal and nonphysical. Consciousness is nonphysical it can grasp ideas and forms that are eternal therefore consciousness is eternal.
After our death our parts still exist. Our consciousness is part of us so it to still exists.
Our consciousness recognizes eternal ideas and forms even without every experiencing them. Our consciousness acquired this experience before our life in an eternal realm.
Our physical brain manifests consciousness though it may take on properties of the nonphysical a blow to the head a lobotomy drugs or bran damage can severely affect consciousness.
I will quickly run through them to explain why I picked the last one as the best explanation. I do not think I have to be eternal to grasp an eternal idea. I do not have to be a cat to know a cat. It is true that before my birth and after my death my atoms exist, but as for my parts my heart, my liver will stop working unless they are transplanted and still they only get one chance at that. My mind can extrapolate on ideas and forms I have never experienced in this life. This leaves me with the last explanation
I brought up this question because it is very compelling. The question has been around for a long time in one form or another. Many great thinkers have pondered this question all their lives without coming to a solid or sound answer. I have no solid answer. Something of faith my be needed to gain peace with the question.
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But I am starting to get your gist.
Okay here is a question: Will my conciseness survive the death of my body?
I say no. Now prove me wrong.
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In the area of theoretical questions one can use Platonic logic or Aristotelian logic and come up with proof for completely different and opposing answers. It can get very confusing.
This may help in the discussion:
In complicated geometric or mathematical questions "proof involves reasoned, logical explanations that use definitions, axioms, postulates, and previously proved theorems to arrive at a conclusion about a geometric statement. A good proof has an argument that is clearly developed with each step supported by:
Theorems: statements that can be proved to be true
Postulates: statements that are assumed to be true without proof (for example, an angle has only one bisector)
Axioms: self-evident truths or the basic facts that are accepted without any proof (for example, a straight line can be drawn between any two points)" from chegg.com a very interesting academic website.
My background is the Arts most of the answers I seek have little or no proof and are fluid in nature, changing shape with a blink of the eye