Feb 4 2013: Essentially what I was speaking of are called "Water rights laws". You can do a search for it if you need specific laws. Basically it gives the first entity to access the water supply rights over that water which includes all tributaries, streams and runoff leading to that water source. The laws were initially created to prevent people's streams from being dried up from someone upstream but it has harmed the individual by scaling up to include huge reservoirs run by private or government water authorities, So essentially ALL rain belongs to some entity. The interpretation and enforcement of these laws is sometimes taken too far in spite of common sense. To require an individual to pay for the right to collect rain is ludicrous. To be fair, since the Western US has been having water problems and these issues are becoming more common, the laws are starting to be changed. Government has become too bloated, slow and abused by those with the ability to abuse it. It can not adapt to change fast enough and as a result tries to pigeonhole new problems into old laws.
The entire structure of government need to change. Monetary interests need to be taken out of the equation entirely, people need to be considered first and decisions need to be made based on logic, research and science, not by votes of people who have no expertise or collect money from those who will benefit from a law. Things need to be malleable. When something is no longer relevant it needs to be removed. If this were the case there would be far fewer laws. Too often i see people harmed because someone else is making money from it. This has to stop! Everything In the US is business, Even prisons and prison services are business.
Feb 2 2013: Retired people on fixed incomes have had leins put against their properties, fined or forced to move because they could not afford to hook up to sewer lines and pay sewer fees despite the fact that they had perfectly working septic systems.
The health care industry in many places is more about profit for insurance and pharmaceutical companies than it is for actually making people healthy. Having people sick is a big business.
One could spend days finding examples of how government harms people.
So, Debt based money. Debt based money and privately owned central banks are the biggest scam ever. One day in the US in the early 20th century a bunch of private bankers managed to get congress to pass the Federal reserve act.. It created a central bank that would print money and LOAN it to the government, thus making all the citizens of the nation indebted to that bank. Up until that point there were no federal taxes, money was 100% backed by real commodities and the government produced it's own money. On that day the country no longer belonged to the citizens but was sold off to banks.
Many other nations also created central banks and/or pegged their currency against the dollar. As time went on the backing for money was removed until we get to today where there is nothing backing the currency but debt itself. The money is being printed into oblivion by the banks, and the nations are becoming increasingly indebted to the central banks (who provide NOTHING of real value). The value of the money is almost 95% what it was worth in 1913.Currency that people have looses value every day essentially making them poorer. Since entire nations are now indebted to central banks they begin imposing austerity measures on their citizenry. Governments and their relationship to the monetary system is absolute insanity that harms everyone except those who own the banks. .
Feb 2 2013: No it doesn't have my agreement. , I want to just be left alone to live my life. I don't want 'The State' in every aspect of my life.
This isn't something that effects me here but as an example in many places in the country and in the world government has made it illegal to acquire a necessity of life in favor of you paying a private or government owned utility. In some places you can not even capture the rain that falls on your own roof and use it to drink shower or water your lawn. Demanding people purchase what is a necessity of life when it is freely available to them is downright wrong. It is even more wrong when where they are required to get their water from a depleting reservoir in the next state.
Eminent domain is consistently abused. People are often evicted from their own land for private projects that are clearly not in the best interests of the people in the community but are for the profit of friends of city councils.
Resources are taken from under peoples homes without compensation and water supplies contaminated for the sake of corporate interest and profit. As an example battles over the fracking industry are occurring right now in my country. The residents generally lose because they do not have the financial resources of a large corporation.
Communities taxes are put into privately own real estate projects (arena's and stadiums) claiming they will bring profit to the city despite people fighting against it. If the city doesn't own it the people shouldn't have to pay for it.
Oil and gas always win over solar, wind and hydro because they have the most lobbyist dollars.
Government is rarely about doing what is best for people and mostly about who can bring the most profit.
Feb 2 2013: I get what you're saying about CERTAIN jobs but the problem is that nearly Everything is regulated. Bureaucracy is out of hand. Would rather pay someone $150 dollars to plant a tree instead of $20? My point is there are no longer small jobs when the government is involved. If you want to hire someone for an hour or two to help you plant a tree if they are on the government site they are now on record as being a landscape contractor. They will have to go to your city and apply for permits that you will pay for. That person will also need to take a course from the dept of Agriculture and get a license or risk being fined to death. A simple hour or two of physical labor is now a logistical nightmare. You want to hire someone to cook for your big game party. Forget that, It will cost you a fortune because the person will need to first get a restaurant and/or venders license, they will also have to pay the city to come in and inspect their kitchen. Government makes it increasingly difficult for people to work. Before people can even make a penny they're putting out tons of money. It's a great idea to get people to work but most wont want to do it because they will be drowned in B.S.and have all their efforts taken away by layer upon layer of government.
Feb 2 2013: I didn't miss the point. I think this is a great idea as long as it isn't government controlled. Any time the government is involved layers of bureaucracy ensue. Besides taxes I would bet there would be a bureaucratic burden on people. For one thing you'll probably need a birth certificate and or two forms of id just to sign up. Such an employment system should be a collaborative open source project or non profit. Given the idea presented would this be like working for a temp agency or would it be that you'd need a different end of the year tax form for each job you did? You could end up working hundreds of jobs? Will all the money have to be funneled through the government website to ensure social security, federal, state and local taxes are taken out. I want to hire someone to mow my lawn, but since they are on a government site I have to pay that site which takes out it's cut and then pays them for the jobs at the end of the week. It is great to connect people to small jobs but not to have the government involved. So in the end who is your employer? You now are basically working for the government since they will end up writing your check. All kinds of restrictions and regulations could then be imposed on you. You can do this and you can't do that. You need a license to do that job. You have to take our certification class if you want to do this... etc etc.... Bureaucratic NIGHTMARE!
Feb 1 2013: Sometimes the words 'State' and 'Government' are used interchangeably. As far as I see it the government does not have the interest of the people in mind. The government is just people who can be bought out by the highest bidder. On the whole most laws passed are to benefit certain entities at the expense of others. It seems to me that the government is a collection of sociopathic people who somehow convince people to vote them into office. It is debt money that is everyone's enemy. The system it creates causes most of the problems we see in society and in government.
Feb 1 2013: I could see that perspective if one saw the government at an all benevolent entity, but it is not. At least in the US, the fact that people are even paying taxes on their income proves that. It wasn't until the Federal reserve was created that Federal Taxes came about. The country was fine without it until 1913. Taxes are collected to pay on debt to a private bank with the word 'federal' in its name. It prints money out of thin air and charges everyone in the nation interest. In my book that is slavery to the bank. People often do this type of work because they believe in freedom. Taxes are not to pay for infrastructure and resources to the people they're to pay the banks that loan money to our government. The government could just as easily print it's own money but politicians sold out long before I was born. Having all these types of jobs under government control would just take another bastion on freedom away. People need a way to live without having all of their efforts taken from them. The 'imperfect system" you speak of was created to enslave people. Why should there be taxes. Why not have government print money and get its income from loan interest instead of giving it to private entities. Imagine how better life would be if you didn't pay taxes but instead it was the interest on your mortgage that went to the state coffers. I know my comments may seem a bit off topic but doing something like this would be just another step towards total fascist control of people's lives.
Jan 31 2013: This is a good idea ONLY if government is not involved. Some of the types of jobs the speaker is talking about are 'shadow economy' jobs. They are often 'under the table' and done by people who can barely afford to live. Having the government involved would now mean all this employment is tracked. It could create a greater tax burden on already poor people. Any chance a politician can find to tax someone they will. Bankers buy politicians, politicians tax everyone and give it to bankers. Don't put government into small jobs, nobody wants to be taxed for dog sitting.
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The entire structure of government need to change. Monetary interests need to be taken out of the equation entirely, people need to be considered first and decisions need to be made based on logic, research and science, not by votes of people who have no expertise or collect money from those who will benefit from a law. Things need to be malleable. When something is no longer relevant it needs to be removed. If this were the case there would be far fewer laws. Too often i see people harmed because someone else is making money from it. This has to stop! Everything In the US is business, Even prisons and prison services are business.
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The health care industry in many places is more about profit for insurance and pharmaceutical companies than it is for actually making people healthy. Having people sick is a big business.
One could spend days finding examples of how government harms people.
So, Debt based money. Debt based money and privately owned central banks are the biggest scam ever. One day in the US in the early 20th century a bunch of private bankers managed to get congress to pass the Federal reserve act.. It created a central bank that would print money and LOAN it to the government, thus making all the citizens of the nation indebted to that bank. Up until that point there were no federal taxes, money was 100% backed by real commodities and the government produced it's own money. On that day the country no longer belonged to the citizens but was sold off to banks.
Many other nations also created central banks and/or pegged their currency against the dollar. As time went on the backing for money was removed until we get to today where there is nothing backing the currency but debt itself. The money is being printed into oblivion by the banks, and the nations are becoming increasingly indebted to the central banks (who provide NOTHING of real value). The value of the money is almost 95% what it was worth in 1913.Currency that people have looses value every day essentially making them poorer. Since entire nations are now indebted to central banks they begin imposing austerity measures on their citizenry. Governments and their relationship to the monetary system is absolute insanity that harms everyone except those who own the banks. .
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This isn't something that effects me here but as an example in many places in the country and in the world government has made it illegal to acquire a necessity of life in favor of you paying a private or government owned utility. In some places you can not even capture the rain that falls on your own roof and use it to drink shower or water your lawn. Demanding people purchase what is a necessity of life when it is freely available to them is downright wrong. It is even more wrong when where they are required to get their water from a depleting reservoir in the next state.
Eminent domain is consistently abused. People are often evicted from their own land for private projects that are clearly not in the best interests of the people in the community but are for the profit of friends of city councils.
Resources are taken from under peoples homes without compensation and water supplies contaminated for the sake of corporate interest and profit. As an example battles over the fracking industry are occurring right now in my country. The residents generally lose because they do not have the financial resources of a large corporation.
Communities taxes are put into privately own real estate projects (arena's and stadiums) claiming they will bring profit to the city despite people fighting against it. If the city doesn't own it the people shouldn't have to pay for it.
Oil and gas always win over solar, wind and hydro because they have the most lobbyist dollars.
Government is rarely about doing what is best for people and mostly about who can bring the most profit.
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