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Craig Shamwell
Posted over 1 year ago
Is capitalism sustainable?
Seriously, "Banalities, Insolence"? I would have liked an answer as well! This is not the forum to not be ready to go in depth with what you think. The Cat, by nature will hunt the mice. If hungry it will eat its head. The cat does not ask for money in return. "It doesn't matter whether it is a good cat or a black cat, a cat that catches mice is a good cat" If in fact the mice is 'deemed' "Good", then it does matter. By mere association, does not make every Chines person profound.
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Craig Shamwell
Posted over 1 year ago
Is capitalism sustainable?
Larry I have been writing and talking about this for some time in how "we the people" have become nothing more than Cheerleaders, waiting for our elected officials and Talk Radio to tell us how to vote and what to do!! While what you suggest is very noble, and very sensible, you overlook one thing. As long as Money is THE power, those with the most Money will have the ultimate influence to keep this from happening. Many would say you are overreaching Governments' Power. What it will take is States agreeing to adopt a new way of operating, creating much Havoc at first. People will move and shift about, but it will be a gradual change taking roughly 20-30 years or more for full acceptance. But my prediction is Mother Nature will help expedite things, dealing us a heavy blow on our egos and all that we have come to know as "important". We will then be forced to make some changes!
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Craig Shamwell
Posted over 1 year ago
Is capitalism sustainable?
And it is just that Mary Ellen, as you question the "Moral Compass" of Human Beings! This is the nail on the head statement. Just as the Compass of a Captain at sea can point his Compass anywhere he chooses, if the sound of the Sirens is just too strong to break away from, he will soon meet his peril. I have no doubt the Compass of mankind can be changed, but try to tell a Bank Executive who happens to hooked on Meds' he or she has a drug problem and they will tell you just the opposite. Empowerment is addictive, and nothing is more empowering than Money! The truth of the mater is, there is enough money for every single person of adult age to live comfortably on the planet. Their is enough money to break many of the cycles that feed impoverishment, build schools and educate all the children. Just in the US alone, we waste enough food every year to feed the enter Worlds hungry. But even thinking like this to Big Capitalist minded people and you are talking about "Hand Outs", "Taking My Money", "Taxing the Rich", "Feeding the Lazy"! Our whole political system (now) is about who controls the money. Quite frankly, I don't see the Human Race really taking that next step of its evolution with Wealth determined as we do today. The Wealth should always be in the Person. The Person who asked not to be born. The wealth should be in knowing that we have prepared the best possible situation for that person to feel useful to society and to himself. We are raping forests all over the world, not to create more jobs, but to generate more wealth in the form of money. This is so backwards. Capitalism will only insure that we deplete our resources. Resources that should not have any attachment to Wealth Creation. Have we become so weak that we have surrendered to the notion that as long as Capitalism works for SOME......Its Working???!!! Thank you for you thoughts Mary Ellen. And I thank Luke for asking such an important question that we should all revisit soon!
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Craig Shamwell
Posted over 1 year ago
Is capitalism sustainable?
Sure, do we still Barter?, I do! But not on a scale that I could seriously profit from, without getting arrested. I have even thought about the concept of having a Dual System of Wealth. Both Capitalistic and a Human Wealth System, but the more I think about it the more it would create "classes" that we don't need. The Human "Condition" needs to be at the forefront of Human concern. Not Money. It has become something that it was never intended. It is the decider as to what happens, not the needs of men.
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Craig Shamwell
Posted over 1 year ago
Is capitalism sustainable?
i find it interesting that the more sense it starts to make sense, the more you create an even more dire situation. "Computer programers...Game Creators..." But then you go all the way back to the beginning (so to speak) to prove your point. Completely ignoring the "reality' of where we are! This is what "fear" can do when anyone questions Capitalism. While there may have been many necessary processes to implement in the 1600-1800's, we are in a very very different time. And again, your fears make you ignore this fact. You also ignore the fact that it was the same Capitalization (Industrialism) that spurred the immigration to this country by millions looking for jobs, which took poverty to an new scale. And what happens to a company and more importantly, to its workers when the doors close for whatever reason? They are now the needy. For the past 5 years the poverty levels have risen. At over 15%, 46.2mil people live in poverty. In the world I see, with so many other interesting things to pursue and how children will be educated on the essence of being responsible (do you disagree with that too?), to what is important to others as well as personal pursuits, people will do much more and be happier doing it. The only thing they have to respect is, they will have to be productive. No sitting on the couch, cause this will never be a situation we will Culture anymore. You have to look way beyond what you think will work or not work based on very different times with a completely different knowledge base. The Dust Bowl, was an Ecological Disaster. But few really know that. When wheat became Gold, the frenzy to make the money, caused a Tragedy. Lack of information was key! So when you choose to make points based on something necessary in the 1600's, as to what we are doing today when we have 46mil folks living impoverished, stop and ask...is this really working for everyone? The only thing I agree with the comparison is....."they changed something that didn't work...then!
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Craig Shamwell
Posted over 1 year ago
Is capitalism sustainable?
The 'definition' you state is not an official definition that I have ever read. In fact, what you write is similar to an expert from a comment about Webster's official definition of the word on Webster's website. The comment was started with: "The 'Left' has Hijacked the word greed." He goes on to basically re-define the word by saying "Greed is not the desire for things, it is the desire for things at the expense of others." This is not the definition of the word...ANYWHERE!!! While I do not want to disrespect Luke's original question by going too deep into Political manipulation (or disrespect you), but this is what this is. Greed at its base is all about "Excess!" Having, Consuming or Desiring more than one's needs. What you would like to have pass as "another" definition is actually "creating" a new definition, so the "Right' can throw yet another label on folks in need, or of little means, as well as justify your own Greed by in essence "changing" the definition of Greed. You completley ignore the fact that "value" has to be "determined" as does the "percentage" in return. Who decides that the CEO of Wall-Mart is of more Value than my child's 6th Grade Teacher? Its the folks with the most money that will have more influence as to what and how things are both determined and done....who gets what and how much. So Greed is a Natural path for our Culture to take. Money is the power. It is the most important thing on the Planet. We don't embrace our People, we embrace our money. You would rather choose to shift blame and characterize an individual who does not have the means to bring equal "value" (as you decide its not) to the table, simply because they would like to have something that may make their life better...not more or too much....as Greedy, Instead of taking the definition as it has been for hundreds of years, and apply it where it should be. As long as we use the system as it is, many will never have an Equal chance. Its not like we started yesterday.
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Craig Shamwell
Posted over 1 year ago
Is capitalism sustainable?
What you are describing just does not happen James. No disrespect my friend, but a farmer cannot legally trade crops for meat. Money has indeed taken the place of bartering, in a legal sense. And as I have not been able to find the start of "token exchange" either, it still exists today. Token Exchange suggests that one has earned those tokens through some form of legal labor. But that is so not true today, nor has it been for many years. And there is no way to make that kind of system Sustain all human beings. I'll be back later, gotta go now. Love the dialogue!!!!
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Craig Shamwell
Posted over 1 year ago
Is capitalism sustainable?
Capitalism is responsible for the Culture of what our Political System is today. While you try to blur the lines between the "Barter" system and Capitalism, it cannot be done. And do you seriously believe people have to be told what is right and what is wrong?? Now this is where our natural instincts do kick in! Humans quickly understand our environments and discern the what is or is not right. What they have to be taught is there is "Consequence" for such actions and why. The real question is why do so many continue to steal knowing there is such consequence? Because deep inside people long to operate outside the system we have in place!! "Get over on the system!" Mike you make the assumption, even-though I stated just the opposite, that a child would be "told" what to be. And that is not it at all! In fact it would be completely the opposite. Children would have exposure to many things during their formative years. Adults would help to pay attention to the child's development and help recognize their 'gifts' and make sure to expose them to things that also compliment those gifts. Support roles in our society would have as much weight as principles roles. Schools can be geared towards learning skills at a much younger age, because we are no longer Test Score Driven. We could have rotation systems in which everyone gets a chance to enjoy sitting in the box at a ball game or on the front row. While many things will have to ironed out, as it stands, the human being who asks not to be born, is worth very little at birth if they are of a struggling family. In fact, people kill their children because the money they have to spend to take care of it is just not there. When will human life become more important than money? When money no longer exists.