Feb 8 2013: As George Carlin said, to mother nature, we're nothing but a minor surface nuisance... and the effect we have on the planet is minimal, especially when viewed in geological terms. The effects of the worst ecological disaster of all times, the BP spill in the gulf, are virtually gone already... and mostly due to mother nature's natural mechanisms, not our efforts.
All your feel good talk about wars, & living a natural life on Walden Pond has absolutely nothing whatsoever to do with the simple fact that man made global warming is a total and complete hoax, being perpetrated on us by lying left wing sociopaths for the sole purpose of gaining power over the masses and enriching themselves. The climate has been changing for 4.5 billion years. We've been through several ice ages, the most recent one (a small one) ended just yesterday (in the mid 1800's). For the last 4.5 billion years, the earth went through a long warming period after each and every cold spell. The simple fact of that seems to be something that you enviro-whackos can't seem to grasp. The other simple fact which escapes you, much to my amazement, is that warming is good. Throughout history all life forms have flourished during the planet's warm period & suffered, starved & died during the cold ones. Ever study American History? Remember George Washington's winter at Valley Forge?
Our air quality at the moment is not bad. CO2 is not and has never been a pollutant. Anyone who says it is is an idiot or a liar. CO2 is the gas of life. Without it, nothing would be green. GE did more and longer lasting environmental damage to the earth by pumping PCB's into the Hudson River valley than all the oil spills combined.
If you want to enlighten yourself about the truth behind this nonsense, do a little research on your own and stop listening to what you hear on the major media... for a small taste of the truth, see the following:
Oct 5 2012: Comparing scientists like Dr. Richard Lindzen at MIT, and Dr. Willie Soon @ Harvard to people who argued that tobacco was not harmful, is beyond absurd. There is ZERO scientific evidence supporting the ridiculous AGW theory. Nobody is denying that the earth has warmed somewhat since the end of the Little Ice Age. What we deny is the idea that this warming was caused by our increased use of hydrocarbon based fuels during the industrial revolution. If you really believe it to be true, then come up with some scientific proof. A real scientist doesn't prove his theories by insulting & bad mouthing other scientists who disagree with him.
Equating the power of the sun to warm the earth with the power of CO2 to do the same is silly. The greenhouse effect has been exaggerated out of all proportion in the overall calculus of our climate system. At most, the effect of increasing CO2 on our climate is statistically insignificant. Besides, warming is good, as all of you climate alarmists are going to learn in the next 25 to 50 years, as we enter what promises to be a fairly serious cooling period. BTW: The lag time between warming and increased CO2 that comes as a result is more like 800 years. Seems counterintuitive, I know, but that's the way it is. Warming causes CO2 levels to increase because it reduces the solubility of CO2 in our oceans. Most plant life evolved in an atmosphere of 1500ppm or more of CO2. Your reference to "excess" CO2 is also meaningless.
Furthermore, as a geologist, you should know that the term "fossil fuels" is a misnomer. Oil is abiotic. The sheer quantity of it that exists makes it obvious that it isn't just a product of decaying biological matter. Likewise, the term "carbon footprint" is totally meaningless, unless you're a coal miner with coal dust on the soles of your work boots walking on a white rug.
The urge to save humanity is almost always only a false-face for the urge to rule it.
H L Mencken
First, it would never have a statistically meaningful effect, and
Second, the premise is wrong. WARMING IS GOOD!
The only type of climate change that is dangerous to us is extreme cooling. The reason is simple enough to see... When it's colder, crops don't grow as well as when it's warmer. History has shown this to be true, with almost all of the high points of human civilization, like the pinnacle of the Roman Empire, occurring at the warmest periods in our recorded history.
Oct 3 2012: Here's a statement of core principles from The International Climate Science Coalition.
I urge everyone to look at their website at: http://www.climatescienceinternational.org
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CLIMATE SCIENCE
Global climate is always changing in accordance with natural causes and recent changes are not unusual.
Science is rapidly evolving away from the view that humanity's emissions of carbon dioxide and other 'greenhouse gases' are a cause of dangerous climate change.
Climate models used by the IPCC* fail to reproduce known past climates without manipulation and therefore lack the scientific integrity needed for use in climate prediction and related policy decision-making.
The UN IPCC Summary for Policymakers and the assertions of IPCC executives too often seriously mis-represent the conclusions of their own scientific reports.
Claims that ‘consensus’ exists among climate experts regarding the causes of the modest warming of the past century are contradicted by thousands of independent scientists.
Carbon dioxide is not a pollutant - it is a necessary reactant in plant photosynthesis and so is essential for life on Earth.
Research that identifies the Sun as a major driver of global climate change must be taken more seriously.
Global cooling has presented serious problems for human society and the environment throughout history while global warming has generally been highly beneficial.
It is not possible to reliably predict how climate will change in the future, beyond the certainty that multi-decadal warming and cooling trends, and abrupt changes, will all continue, underscoring a need for effective adaptation.
Since science and observation have failed to substantiate the human-caused climate change hypothesis, it is premature to damage national economies with `carbon' taxes, emissions trading or other schemes to control 'greenhouse gas' emissions.
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If you seek a rational view of the climate issue, don't listen to the alarmists.
Calling me names and insulting me is par for the course for far left smear merchants.
Everything you've written is pure leftist propaganda. The US Govt has spent close to $60Billion on this bogus research in the last 4 years alone. Your so called experts aren't practicing science, they're practicing grantsmanship.
You claim my graph is bogus. It was created by Dr. Willie Soon at Harvard. SInce you say it's bogus, try explaining how temperatures were able to go down consistently from the 1940's through the mid 1970's, when CO2 content in the atmosphere was rising so rapidly at that time. Your entire BS story is based on the relationship between temperature change and CO2 levels in the period from the mid 1970's to about 1998. That's pretty thin evidence.
Before there was this: http://www.swemson.com/upl/Warming.jpg
There was this: http://www.swemson.com/upl/Cooling.jpg
Go to the archives of the NY Times online and do a simple search on headlines about climate change. You'll see the same lies being repeated since the newspaper began: Save yourself the trouble, & see it here:
Anyone wanting proof that CO2 is not a pollutant should watch the following short time lapse video showing the effect of increased CO2 on plant growth
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jJvvYlBP-_Y
Do you know what happened to Al Gore's Sci Fi Horror Fantasy film in the UK, when they started showing it in public schools? It got busted for violating a UK law prohibiting the political indoctrination of children in their public schools. You can read all about Al Gore's lies and exaggerations here:
The author of the report offered to put up a $1 Million prize if Al Gore would debate him on the subject in public. Gore's been hiding under his desk ever since. Your scam is over. The truth always comes out in the end.
Oct 2 2012: How about coming up with even one scientific fact that supports your widely discredited pseudo-scienctific theory rather than just attacking the messenger?
One of the fun and interesting blogs to visit is Real Science. Its editor, Steven Goddard, recently posted the following facts regarding this year’s weather.
Quietest tornado summer on record.
Quietest hurricane summer on record.
Quietest long term hurricane period since the Civil War.
No global warming for 16 years.
No change in sea level rise rates.
Record cold in the Midwest.
Average fire season.
A cyclical drought affecting portions of the country.
Another interesting tidbit appeared there today:
It is clear that Wyoming is being overwhelmed by greenhouse gases.
If every person in Wyoming represented one molecule in the atmosphere, only one person would be a methane molecule. All of the CO2 would be represented by half the students at one elementary school in Cheyenne.
This last point illuminates one of the most obvious flaws in the AGW theory.
1: CO2, at roughly 390ppm, is roughly 4/10ths of 1% of the atmosphere, and less than 1/2 of 1 % of total CO2 comes from human activity. That's 16ppm or 1 part in every 62,500 in our atmosphere. And THAT statistically insignificant amount of a clear, odorless and tasteless trace gas is posing a threat to life on earth?
2: CO2 levels on earth have been as high as 1800ppm, however since a doubling of CO2 will only produce a temperature increase of 0.8°C, it's not statistically possible for human activity to produce the results you imply.
3: How much CO2 is too much for our planet? Since the average CO2 levels in crowded nightclubs & submarines is typically 6,000ppm to 8,000ppm, it seems once again, that it's statistically impossible for human activity to cause warming.
Here's all the proof you need:
http://www.swemson.com/upl/G3.jpg
Remember the following and you'll be OK:
It's the SUN STUPID!
CO2 is NOT a pollutant!
Warming is Good!
Oct 2 2012: Nobody has ever offered a more succinct indictment of the global warming hoax than H. L. Mencken, who said: "The whole aim of practical politics is to keep the populace alarmed (and hence clamorous to be led to safety) by menacing it with an endless series of hobgoblins, all of them imaginary."
Fighting climate change is a total waste of time. Climate is ALWAYS changing. It's been that way for billions of years, and it will continue to change. Get used to it!
The only rational thing that man can do about it is adapt to it. We cannot change it, and anyone who says that we're causing climate change is either wrong or a liar. CO2 has virtually nothing to do with climate change, and it is not a pollutant. There is nothing unusual or extreme about our climate right now. There is no climate crisis. The primary cause of climate change is the sun. There are other factors of course, but they're all minor or local or short term / temporary.
And BTW: Warming is good! The only type of climate change which poses any threat to life on earth is extreme cooling, and we're entering what promises to be a prolonged cooling period right now based upon what we know about repeating cycles of solar activity. The globalists at the UN are counting on it to help them implement Agenda 21 which calls for reduction of human population by over 90%. These sociopaths are doing everything they can to insure that as many millions as possible starve to death. That's why they're forcing us to put such a big portion of our corn crop into our gas tanks.
Do your own research. Don't listen to what the alarmists are telling you. It's all a lie motivated by politics and greed.
Don't worry about the climate. It's not a problem. For a rational and entertaining perspective on the entire issue, listen to what George Carlin had to say about it:
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All your feel good talk about wars, & living a natural life on Walden Pond has absolutely nothing whatsoever to do with the simple fact that man made global warming is a total and complete hoax, being perpetrated on us by lying left wing sociopaths for the sole purpose of gaining power over the masses and enriching themselves. The climate has been changing for 4.5 billion years. We've been through several ice ages, the most recent one (a small one) ended just yesterday (in the mid 1800's). For the last 4.5 billion years, the earth went through a long warming period after each and every cold spell. The simple fact of that seems to be something that you enviro-whackos can't seem to grasp. The other simple fact which escapes you, much to my amazement, is that warming is good. Throughout history all life forms have flourished during the planet's warm period & suffered, starved & died during the cold ones. Ever study American History? Remember George Washington's winter at Valley Forge?
Our air quality at the moment is not bad. CO2 is not and has never been a pollutant. Anyone who says it is is an idiot or a liar. CO2 is the gas of life. Without it, nothing would be green. GE did more and longer lasting environmental damage to the earth by pumping PCB's into the Hudson River valley than all the oil spills combined.
If you want to enlighten yourself about the truth behind this nonsense, do a little research on your own and stop listening to what you hear on the major media... for a small taste of the truth, see the following:
http://www.wnd.com/2012/07/why-global-warming-hoax-cant-be-killed/
fs
A reply on Conversation: Is fighting climate change a losing battle?
If you wish to argue any point I might make. do so with facts, not insults.
You can start by coming up with an explanation for the temperature record of the mid 1940's through the 70's. Here's the facts:
http://www.swemson.com/upl/G3.jpg
Let's see how smart you are....
fs
A reply on Conversation: Is fighting climate change a losing battle?
So I certainly am not claiming that the far smaller population of the middle ages had any effect on their climate...
It's the sun... it's natural & it's good!
fs
A reply on Conversation: Is fighting climate change a losing battle?
Equating the power of the sun to warm the earth with the power of CO2 to do the same is silly. The greenhouse effect has been exaggerated out of all proportion in the overall calculus of our climate system. At most, the effect of increasing CO2 on our climate is statistically insignificant. Besides, warming is good, as all of you climate alarmists are going to learn in the next 25 to 50 years, as we enter what promises to be a fairly serious cooling period. BTW: The lag time between warming and increased CO2 that comes as a result is more like 800 years. Seems counterintuitive, I know, but that's the way it is. Warming causes CO2 levels to increase because it reduces the solubility of CO2 in our oceans. Most plant life evolved in an atmosphere of 1500ppm or more of CO2. Your reference to "excess" CO2 is also meaningless.
Furthermore, as a geologist, you should know that the term "fossil fuels" is a misnomer. Oil is abiotic. The sheer quantity of it that exists makes it obvious that it isn't just a product of decaying biological matter. Likewise, the term "carbon footprint" is totally meaningless, unless you're a coal miner with coal dust on the soles of your work boots walking on a white rug.
The urge to save humanity is almost always only a false-face for the urge to rule it.
H L Mencken
fs
A reply on Conversation: Is fighting climate change a losing battle?
First, it would never have a statistically meaningful effect, and
Second, the premise is wrong. WARMING IS GOOD!
The only type of climate change that is dangerous to us is extreme cooling. The reason is simple enough to see... When it's colder, crops don't grow as well as when it's warmer. History has shown this to be true, with almost all of the high points of human civilization, like the pinnacle of the Roman Empire, occurring at the warmest periods in our recorded history.
fs
A comment on Conversation: Is fighting climate change a losing battle?
I urge everyone to look at their website at: http://www.climatescienceinternational.org
-------------
CLIMATE SCIENCE
Global climate is always changing in accordance with natural causes and recent changes are not unusual.
Science is rapidly evolving away from the view that humanity's emissions of carbon dioxide and other 'greenhouse gases' are a cause of dangerous climate change.
Climate models used by the IPCC* fail to reproduce known past climates without manipulation and therefore lack the scientific integrity needed for use in climate prediction and related policy decision-making.
The UN IPCC Summary for Policymakers and the assertions of IPCC executives too often seriously mis-represent the conclusions of their own scientific reports.
Claims that ‘consensus’ exists among climate experts regarding the causes of the modest warming of the past century are contradicted by thousands of independent scientists.
Carbon dioxide is not a pollutant - it is a necessary reactant in plant photosynthesis and so is essential for life on Earth.
Research that identifies the Sun as a major driver of global climate change must be taken more seriously.
Global cooling has presented serious problems for human society and the environment throughout history while global warming has generally been highly beneficial.
It is not possible to reliably predict how climate will change in the future, beyond the certainty that multi-decadal warming and cooling trends, and abrupt changes, will all continue, underscoring a need for effective adaptation.
Since science and observation have failed to substantiate the human-caused climate change hypothesis, it is premature to damage national economies with `carbon' taxes, emissions trading or other schemes to control 'greenhouse gas' emissions.
--------------
If you seek a rational view of the climate issue, don't listen to the alarmists.
fs
A comment on Conversation: Is fighting climate change a losing battle?
Calling me names and insulting me is par for the course for far left smear merchants.
Everything you've written is pure leftist propaganda. The US Govt has spent close to $60Billion on this bogus research in the last 4 years alone. Your so called experts aren't practicing science, they're practicing grantsmanship.
You claim my graph is bogus. It was created by Dr. Willie Soon at Harvard. SInce you say it's bogus, try explaining how temperatures were able to go down consistently from the 1940's through the mid 1970's, when CO2 content in the atmosphere was rising so rapidly at that time. Your entire BS story is based on the relationship between temperature change and CO2 levels in the period from the mid 1970's to about 1998. That's pretty thin evidence.
Before there was this: http://www.swemson.com/upl/Warming.jpg
There was this: http://www.swemson.com/upl/Cooling.jpg
Go to the archives of the NY Times online and do a simple search on headlines about climate change. You'll see the same lies being repeated since the newspaper began: Save yourself the trouble, & see it here:
http://www.newsrealblog.com/2010/01/24/159-years-of-climate-alarmism-at-the-new-york-times/
Anyone wanting proof that CO2 is not a pollutant should watch the following short time lapse video showing the effect of increased CO2 on plant growth
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jJvvYlBP-_Y
Do you know what happened to Al Gore's Sci Fi Horror Fantasy film in the UK, when they started showing it in public schools? It got busted for violating a UK law prohibiting the political indoctrination of children in their public schools. You can read all about Al Gore's lies and exaggerations here:
http://scienceandpublicpolicy.org/monckton/goreerrors.html
The author of the report offered to put up a $1 Million prize if Al Gore would debate him on the subject in public. Gore's been hiding under his desk ever since. Your scam is over. The truth always comes out in the end.
FS
A reply on Conversation: Is fighting climate change a losing battle?
One of the fun and interesting blogs to visit is Real Science. Its editor, Steven Goddard, recently posted the following facts regarding this year’s weather.
Quietest tornado summer on record.
Quietest hurricane summer on record.
Quietest long term hurricane period since the Civil War.
No global warming for 16 years.
No change in sea level rise rates.
Record cold in the Midwest.
Average fire season.
A cyclical drought affecting portions of the country.
Another interesting tidbit appeared there today:
It is clear that Wyoming is being overwhelmed by greenhouse gases.
If every person in Wyoming represented one molecule in the atmosphere, only one person would be a methane molecule. All of the CO2 would be represented by half the students at one elementary school in Cheyenne.
This last point illuminates one of the most obvious flaws in the AGW theory.
1: CO2, at roughly 390ppm, is roughly 4/10ths of 1% of the atmosphere, and less than 1/2 of 1 % of total CO2 comes from human activity. That's 16ppm or 1 part in every 62,500 in our atmosphere. And THAT statistically insignificant amount of a clear, odorless and tasteless trace gas is posing a threat to life on earth?
2: CO2 levels on earth have been as high as 1800ppm, however since a doubling of CO2 will only produce a temperature increase of 0.8°C, it's not statistically possible for human activity to produce the results you imply.
3: How much CO2 is too much for our planet? Since the average CO2 levels in crowded nightclubs & submarines is typically 6,000ppm to 8,000ppm, it seems once again, that it's statistically impossible for human activity to cause warming.
Here's all the proof you need:
http://www.swemson.com/upl/G3.jpg
Remember the following and you'll be OK:
It's the SUN STUPID!
CO2 is NOT a pollutant!
Warming is Good!
fs
A comment on Conversation: Is fighting climate change a losing battle?
Fighting climate change is a total waste of time. Climate is ALWAYS changing. It's been that way for billions of years, and it will continue to change. Get used to it!
The only rational thing that man can do about it is adapt to it. We cannot change it, and anyone who says that we're causing climate change is either wrong or a liar. CO2 has virtually nothing to do with climate change, and it is not a pollutant. There is nothing unusual or extreme about our climate right now. There is no climate crisis. The primary cause of climate change is the sun. There are other factors of course, but they're all minor or local or short term / temporary.
And BTW: Warming is good! The only type of climate change which poses any threat to life on earth is extreme cooling, and we're entering what promises to be a prolonged cooling period right now based upon what we know about repeating cycles of solar activity. The globalists at the UN are counting on it to help them implement Agenda 21 which calls for reduction of human population by over 90%. These sociopaths are doing everything they can to insure that as many millions as possible starve to death. That's why they're forcing us to put such a big portion of our corn crop into our gas tanks.
Do your own research. Don't listen to what the alarmists are telling you. It's all a lie motivated by politics and greed.
Don't worry about the climate. It's not a problem. For a rational and entertaining perspective on the entire issue, listen to what George Carlin had to say about it:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EjmtSkl53h4
fs