Edan East

Carmel By The Sea, CA, United States

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Edan East
Posted over 1 year ago
Scott Fraser: Why eyewitnesses get it wrong
The information he shared, sans the towers, is vital for us as a society to know. We make life and death decisions about anothers life when we are on juries and in the voting booth. I have observed in courtrooms wrong information based on prosecuters understanding, be relayed to the jury. this information can be completely false, but based on the prosecuters beliefs and lack of scientific understanding of the issues. Unfortunatly, the jury attribitudes authority and validity to the prosecuter that is difficult to undo. Too often men, and most likely Black men, go to prison based on incorrect information, and misunderstanding of science. We need to clean up our judicial system... it is in "The Name of the People of the State of ..." anyone sent to prison in your state that is not guilty is on you! Get informed... This is a sad situation. does it have to be your son, brother, father, neighbor before you educate yourself? It is easy to sit back and accept that the system "MUST" know what it is doing! This could not be further from the truth! As for Professor Fraser... I noticed in the begining of his talk he seemed a bit nervious. I have spoken publiclly for years, both in a teaching capacity and as a presenter, it is not uncommon for professors that teach the same material semester after semester to get a bit of center when having to shift their talk to present in a different forum. And let's face it, this forum was the TED! I would have been nervious too!
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Edan East
Posted over 1 year ago
Scott Fraser: Why eyewitnesses get it wrong
It is not known whether the person shooting was aiming at the man shot. The person shooting was most likely just shooting at the group. These shootings are usually based on gang retaliation. the victim is irrelevent, so long as it is assumed the victim is a part of the rival gang. Or it was a gang initiation. The man shooting may have been just proving his strength and willingness to perform land acts of violence for the sake of the gang... sad, but please do not judge until you walk in their shoes...
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Edan East
Posted almost 2 years ago
Do we Ignore incarcerated men, women and juveniles or help Restore them back into community?
Unfortunatly this discussion is going to close soon, 3 days,... this has been an enjoyable opportunity do discuss and read other opionions about this issue. I have revisited the issue that became too much to bare.... an issue that has so effected the lives of others, but out of sight of those of us living the priviledged life... I am no better than any of them and yet my expereinces in life are so different... we all want the same thing, the opportunity to live up to our own personal potential and be apart of a bigger social collective. to fit in and be appreciated and loved. our society bars some from access to the same opportunites the rest of us take for granted... it is important to truly walk in the shoes of another to appreciate their difficulties and relize they want the same as the rest of us want. I have gained an appreciation for this opportunity and the TED world. I wish out of this we could in some way implement change... I hope to personally by utilizing my education and expereince to continue on the path I found myself on when I saw inside the world of those living right here in my community that expereinced life so differently.
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Edan East
Posted almost 2 years ago
Do we Ignore incarcerated men, women and juveniles or help Restore them back into community?
that is arogant and fails on the first level of not bringoing your own standards when working with other populations... One with low self esteem would not have the attitude that they can perpetrate teh crimes they do and get away with it, or that they deserve and it is owed to them for them to committe their particulare crime. so... set aside your own personal social beleifs and take another look...
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Edan East
Posted almost 2 years ago
Do we Ignore incarcerated men, women and juveniles or help Restore them back into community?
Colleen I am sorry so many beleive selfesteem is such a key aspect to their change. but no I know the tough guy personnas many put on... but I also know from bith expereince and research findings that these men do not lack in self esteem. with in the communites they come from they develop levells of esteem based on their environment... you may be misinterpreting this as false self prmotion, but in fact is what esteems them. but again I will saw what is found to be the most important indicator of criminogenic behavior and an indicator of their future is 1) Attitude, 2) Associates, 3) personality, 4) History, 5)skill/eductaion, 6) Family, and last.7)addiction. so change the attitude and change the peron. change the associates and you often change the attitude, address the personality issue, ie. sociopath or other mental illness issues and you see whether change can take place, of course look at the history of anyone and I can tell you what they are more likely to do when faced with similar curcumstances... those first 4 are the most important... the rest job/education family and addiction play a smaller role, as in they can tell you of further isssues they may need to deal with, such as going home to a family of drug addicted gang bangers in a community with no jobs and education is poor. This is not an issue that is solved by those who work in the field following what "they think" works or what "they beleive" works... it is solved by taking all the data we have and doing a meta analysis with that data and seeing what works with whom and when and then implementing that and following the outcome to make sure we are staying on target and getting the results we desire. Colleen you seem so nicce and that is why you are probably blinded by your feelings on a personal level. We all have a shifting self esteem, but when measuered and when used as the indicater of treatment, they found it does ot work, because You are telling men where their self esteem is...
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Edan East
Posted almost 2 years ago
Do we Ignore incarcerated men, women and juveniles or help Restore them back into community?
and I shifted my beleifs but held on to my humanity. I cared about all, not just the successes... as for the man I spoke of... he is now 32 and in prison for a further crime, he has gone through 5 different programs... he is what is typical of this system... his first program was a restoritive justice program, it was working for the forestry service, but when he returned to Watts at 20 years old with a criminal history, even though he was 16 when he got in trouble and was with a trusted adult from his community he could not get a job, especially in a community that doesnot have jobs... and as an african american male he was aced out of getting a job outside his community... Trust me Colleen this system is failing so many, yet we have the answer... but to have so many well intentioned in the way as well as the illintentioned becomes a huge weight that at times feels overwelming... I want programs that succeed 70% of the time or better, not fail 70% of the time and then claim it is the fault of the marginalized without npower in our society.
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Edan East
Posted almost 2 years ago
Do we Ignore incarcerated men, women and juveniles or help Restore them back into community?
However I remember vividly the man I was working with and he told me his stoory fo repeat incarceration and repeat programs that were going to "fix" him. He said after the first one when he was 17 and in priosn and thought this would be that change he needed so he could live up to his own beleif in his potential, failed, he begain to doubt whether he was fixible. By the time I knew him and he was doing "Life on the installment plan" he had completly given up on himself. This is the tragedy of those programs that work for the few and fail the rest... it is not the problem of the individual it is a problem with the program... the doctor does not blame you if his treatment fails 70% of the time. in the mix of treatment program and offender it is the program that is supposed to be the professional! Think about what that implys... based on informened and trained knowledge ... so when these programs fail they further victimize those already victimized... those that go to that "doctor" or program beleive they are getting help, but when change does not happen, they shift their beleif about themselves... The man I speak of said to me he is really good at crime and that is what God has shown him because nothing else works for him... this is the problem of the programs that do not opperate on evidence based practices... in some cases those programs INCREASED the return to crime in the people it was working with by 35%... so if those people would have been left alone they would have done beter that if they had gone to that program... Can an offender sue or hold accountable a program if it fails to deliver on its promise? It should be! Mostly the tax payers pay for this and those being treated are the tragic victims... So yes Colleen I do have a strong opion about this, because I have looked at it from all angles and been open to gaining information from valid and reliable sorces that fit with what I could see to be true...
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Edan East
Posted almost 2 years ago
Do we Ignore incarcerated men, women and juveniles or help Restore them back into community?
...aside and look at this from an empiricle perspective... once I set aside anecdotal evidence I was better able to help those I cared about. I still remeber the individual enomilys from my time working in the prison... those were the unusual cases that stood out, but we can not all fall into the outliers... most fall into the center. Those ooutliers can make it without my help, it is the average the ones that do not get that rare expereince that needs the system to change. So as for why I discount the program you promote is because I know from an empiricly reviewed perspective that those help only a small segment of the population and those that they help is questionable because it is close to the same out come if left alone. I saw the research adn know the men that are the actual victims of our system when we enact or promote programs that "feel good' or look like they work" instead of programs based on evidence of what works. In other words Colleen all the programs that are not really working are doing harm... there is a lot of valid and reliable research that supports what woks, when and with whom... I understand you care and it is dificult to shift your beleif system on this, but that is the problem I face when trying to change the system and those that work in the system... but thank you for making me argue my point and go back in to the relm of this very disturbing reality... after I worked in that field and then studied that earning my degrees with honors and spending time living in the worst of the worst places here in the USA in order to expereince what so many of the men I worked with experience, I took time off to cry... and feel ... and think... and now I can look into what I can do and where my life will go next... I have this knowledge from both sides and need to do more... it is just such an uphill battle... you have no idea. I have advocated for change, but the people in the place that can enact change are stonewalls .... this is hard work
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Edan East
Posted almost 2 years ago
Do we Ignore incarcerated men, women and juveniles or help Restore them back into community?
Thank you Jason... you are getting what I am saying and have found some of the valuable statistics that I realized as I went through this educatioon process to search for an answer of why so many men were incarcerated that did not belong there. Colleen... you attack me and the information I post when it seems to be inconflict with what you beleive... I do not think it is sad that Jason turned his life around, I think it is sad when people look at a single individual and his unusual success and wonder why all the rest did not do as well. That is a big problem with our system. we blame the offender when he fails, yet it is the system that has failed him. this is a very complex issue and you are looking at it from a personal level. looking at individuals and their individual cases. I am looking at an over all solution that works for the magority of the population not just the enomily. That is what I ment by what I said. I care so deeply and was so moved by my experience of working in the prison that I went back to school and earnd a BA and an MA in an effort to, one find a solution and, two do something about it. My children are grown and so I can dedicate my life to this issue. This is my own "peace Corp" here in my own country for men that are living right now right here. I have watched the fall out of the failed programs that these men are promised are "The Answer" to their cicle of incarceration, and then when they go back to a community that is its self failing and with out hope and they return to the only thing they can and now are being watched by the system end up back incarcerated. The return to custody without a new charge is a large segment of the priosn population. This means men that did not commite another crime but were instead incarcerated for something that you and I could do and not be charged for. Colleen you look at this too personally and too individually... I discovered early on that I needed to step back and hold my personal experiences ..
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Edan East
Posted almost 2 years ago
Do we Ignore incarcerated men, women and juveniles or help Restore them back into community?
Colleen... Not all members of society will change. The sociopath (or some call psychopath) is not changable at this time. It is rare, 1% or less of the population. those do not change and continue their behavior. Knowing who is a sociopath and who is just responding to marginilzation is key to who to rehabilitate and who to keep locked up. It sounds harsh, but it is neccesary to reduce the victimization and exploitation in our society. Stats show that of the offenders a small 8 to 12 % commite 70 to 80% of the crimes. getting those 8 to 12% is key to truly effecting crime control and public safety. We need to spend our money wisly... rehabilitate those that are rehbilitatable and incarcerate those that are not.... This is not accomplished with the three strikes law. those that respond to marginalization with criminal activity are not sociopaths, and when we return them to a marginalized life will again commite crime... so figuring out who the 8 to 12% are and incarcerating htem is important, changing society to reduce the marginalization of so many members of our very wealthy society for the rest is the long term key to truly helping the rest.