Personally, I am pro-computer and your recommendation makes sense.
Recommending a cybernetic 'government' sounds insane but... Envision your idyllic Democracy ... ooo nice. Now envision what it really is. Oh. :(.
Imagine your idyllic cybernetic government. ooo nice. Could the real one be worse than Democracy turned out to be?
I personally think a cybernetic government freeing people from working for the necessities of life is awesome. I want that so bad. People not working to survive could work in their own best interest to keep the system as fair as possible. People could chase their own desires, ultimately be happier.
Or on the flip side..
'Wealth' would take a new form, causing some to want to corrupt the governmental system undetectably, result in 'bullies' who go after your allocation of daily resources, who knows. The imagination of need and greed knows no boundaries.
My only other thought is 'What would happen if it became ultimately evident that humanity needed population control.' I think we do now, but everyone wants proof. This kind of system would provide incontrovertible proof.
So what if it's a FACT that there isn't enough for everyone. We invent a new grain? Some reports say the last grain wasn't such a wonderful solution.
Would society change its reproductive habits if a computer told them we don't have enough resources to feed more? We SHOULD curb our population down to a reasonable level now, but will we? I've though at times that we have a bill of human rights, shouldn't we have bills of rights for other species too? Access to necessities of life, etc. It would be possible, if humanity depopulated by a fair percentage.
First thing first. Employ the cybernetic government, having created a plan for the foreseeable issues and hurdle the rest of the problems when they rear their ugly heads.
A world without money means that the resources the world has must be managed and delegated by a governing body who will do this fairly.. but you skirt dangerously close to Communism when you discuss a governing body for delegation of resources. It's especially touchy when you're talking about who gets what lifestyle, how people are provided for, what is fair? A new governing system would have to be created, and treat the world fairly, and as one people.
I think the positive effects of a society with no money would be unfathomable - imagine the effects on modern day slavery, homelessness, unemployment, possession/money related criminal acts, etc.
The negative effects are unimaginable too. It would not eliminate greed, just change its face. Whatever becomes a valuable skill or resource would entice the greedy to use whatever they can to get it. The new resource wouldn't be as easy to handle as money but that is only a hindrance.Think of prisons with cigarettes for bartering. People with more carpentry skills would be given gifts to do some work for others - multiply that by 10, 50, 100 years and you'll see people becoming wealthy in a different way.
Suketu Shah mentioned getting a natural born good leader with followers to start the ball rolling. I think that's necessary because people feel empowered as a group. Suketu, even great leaders started out with 1 person who believed in them - anyone can be that leader. Furthermore, those leaders do exist today.. Imagine if Oprah Winfrey had one press release saying 'lets talk about how to distribute the world's resources fairly.' Millions would participate, and she's not the only one with that influence.
Simon Sinek's talk (link below) skirts around the idea of making change. People will come because they feel the idea is their idea too, not because they were convinced they should do it by a smooth talker.
There are new thoughts, just that there's probably no new concepts.
I think i can scale the wall with a rope (500 BC)
I think i can scale the building with suction cups (2012)
I think I could scale the wall with a photon gun (2040)
Kinda like the theory that there are no new stories to tell when they're boiled down, just different ways to tell them as society 'evolves' (and I use that term loosely).
If you want to come up with new thoughts and creative ideas on your own - try researching sensory deprivation plunging you into a world of your own mind and see what it has to tell you. Try inventing a story with a word you've only ever seen in a dictionary definition. Try explaining something you can't see and are not educated on.
It doesn't matter if someone else has thought the idea, they didn't think it like you do. If you do something similar to my suggestions, you aren't going to derive your idea on the thought based on another person's notions. It'll be your take on the idea with no outside influence and that will make it truly original.
The biggest thing we could do is use money or resources to eliminate the need for money and resources when it comes to betterment for people, societies, and humanity.
Why does one person have a billion dollars and a billion people have nothing? What does it mean for a country to owe trillions? The numbers are so staggering that the lose meaning.
The economy is an enabler for greed, hoarding, and those things are excuses people give to hurt each other either through withholding things from our fellow humans, or by using it against them.
It's time we wake up, develop a system of 'Human Management' where people are ALL treated equal regardless of the 'unfortunate' circumstances they're in. There would be no such thing as an unfortunate person if we all reached out our hands to one another... we'd all be in the same boat (earth), with the same worries (perpetuating the race safely and managing our planet).
Eliminate money or enforce wealth limitations to remove the enabler to deter hoarders of wealth and power from standing on the backs of many. When wealth is acquired above the limitation, it's placed with a committee who puts it to use for society. Open the world to manage our needs as a society, not as a collection of individuals whose personal aims come before even basic human rights of others.
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Personally, I am pro-computer and your recommendation makes sense.
Recommending a cybernetic 'government' sounds insane but... Envision your idyllic Democracy ... ooo nice. Now envision what it really is. Oh. :(.
Imagine your idyllic cybernetic government. ooo nice. Could the real one be worse than Democracy turned out to be?
I personally think a cybernetic government freeing people from working for the necessities of life is awesome. I want that so bad. People not working to survive could work in their own best interest to keep the system as fair as possible. People could chase their own desires, ultimately be happier.
Or on the flip side..
'Wealth' would take a new form, causing some to want to corrupt the governmental system undetectably, result in 'bullies' who go after your allocation of daily resources, who knows. The imagination of need and greed knows no boundaries.
My only other thought is 'What would happen if it became ultimately evident that humanity needed population control.' I think we do now, but everyone wants proof. This kind of system would provide incontrovertible proof.
So what if it's a FACT that there isn't enough for everyone. We invent a new grain? Some reports say the last grain wasn't such a wonderful solution.
Would society change its reproductive habits if a computer told them we don't have enough resources to feed more? We SHOULD curb our population down to a reasonable level now, but will we? I've though at times that we have a bill of human rights, shouldn't we have bills of rights for other species too? Access to necessities of life, etc. It would be possible, if humanity depopulated by a fair percentage.
First thing first. Employ the cybernetic government, having created a plan for the foreseeable issues and hurdle the rest of the problems when they rear their ugly heads.
Viva computers and our faith in them!
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A world without money means that the resources the world has must be managed and delegated by a governing body who will do this fairly.. but you skirt dangerously close to Communism when you discuss a governing body for delegation of resources. It's especially touchy when you're talking about who gets what lifestyle, how people are provided for, what is fair? A new governing system would have to be created, and treat the world fairly, and as one people.
I think the positive effects of a society with no money would be unfathomable - imagine the effects on modern day slavery, homelessness, unemployment, possession/money related criminal acts, etc.
The negative effects are unimaginable too. It would not eliminate greed, just change its face. Whatever becomes a valuable skill or resource would entice the greedy to use whatever they can to get it. The new resource wouldn't be as easy to handle as money but that is only a hindrance.Think of prisons with cigarettes for bartering. People with more carpentry skills would be given gifts to do some work for others - multiply that by 10, 50, 100 years and you'll see people becoming wealthy in a different way.
Suketu Shah mentioned getting a natural born good leader with followers to start the ball rolling. I think that's necessary because people feel empowered as a group. Suketu, even great leaders started out with 1 person who believed in them - anyone can be that leader. Furthermore, those leaders do exist today.. Imagine if Oprah Winfrey had one press release saying 'lets talk about how to distribute the world's resources fairly.' Millions would participate, and she's not the only one with that influence.
Simon Sinek's talk (link below) skirts around the idea of making change. People will come because they feel the idea is their idea too, not because they were convinced they should do it by a smooth talker.
http://www.ted.com/talks/lang/en/simon_sinek_how_great_leaders_inspire_action.htm
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There are new thoughts, just that there's probably no new concepts.
I think i can scale the wall with a rope (500 BC)
I think i can scale the building with suction cups (2012)
I think I could scale the wall with a photon gun (2040)
Kinda like the theory that there are no new stories to tell when they're boiled down, just different ways to tell them as society 'evolves' (and I use that term loosely).
If you want to come up with new thoughts and creative ideas on your own - try researching sensory deprivation plunging you into a world of your own mind and see what it has to tell you. Try inventing a story with a word you've only ever seen in a dictionary definition. Try explaining something you can't see and are not educated on.
It doesn't matter if someone else has thought the idea, they didn't think it like you do. If you do something similar to my suggestions, you aren't going to derive your idea on the thought based on another person's notions. It'll be your take on the idea with no outside influence and that will make it truly original.
Good luck!
I think
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The biggest thing we could do is use money or resources to eliminate the need for money and resources when it comes to betterment for people, societies, and humanity.
Why does one person have a billion dollars and a billion people have nothing? What does it mean for a country to owe trillions? The numbers are so staggering that the lose meaning.
The economy is an enabler for greed, hoarding, and those things are excuses people give to hurt each other either through withholding things from our fellow humans, or by using it against them.
It's time we wake up, develop a system of 'Human Management' where people are ALL treated equal regardless of the 'unfortunate' circumstances they're in. There would be no such thing as an unfortunate person if we all reached out our hands to one another... we'd all be in the same boat (earth), with the same worries (perpetuating the race safely and managing our planet).
Eliminate money or enforce wealth limitations to remove the enabler to deter hoarders of wealth and power from standing on the backs of many. When wealth is acquired above the limitation, it's placed with a committee who puts it to use for society. Open the world to manage our needs as a society, not as a collection of individuals whose personal aims come before even basic human rights of others.