Dan Tech

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Noface
Dan Tech
Posted over 3 years ago
Can technology replace human intelligence?
Yes, and why can you not call this fancy chemical reactions a soul then? Soul is just a word that has the same meaning in both cases. The only thing is separate us is that you are keen on calling anything that moves and reacts a "what ever word". I however only call those things I regard as having a "what ever word". And to me a robot of dead material, can not possess a "what ever word", but you think it automatically has a "what ever word". I call this 'what ever word' a soul. What do you call it?
Noface
Dan Tech
Posted over 3 years ago
Can technology replace human intelligence?
Well if there is no such things as a soul, then there is no such thing as dead or alive. This breaks it all down to what we could call Shintoism. Then all mater are the same. This thinking leads to the conclusion that we have a moral responsibility to humanly created lifeforms, with a AI high enough to surpass or equal humans. And yes, todays AI's are then alive. I how ever, think this is a mystery, and that we do have a soul, as I in my essence know that I'm not a living dead, and as I know and are aware, this give me rights as a human, according to my own contentiousness. This is problematic to science, as evolution does not require awareness, but only reactions to make things to replicate and prosper. It can only be one of both, either we have soul or we don't. And if there is no such thing as a soul, then 'this', that we call 'don't have a soul', we then have to call something, and why not call this a soul then? Is it because your not religious that you cant use that word? If there is no such thing like dead or alive, then we are back to square one. You are now in many respects equal to the stone, the planet, space and everything else. This is in many regards the same as Shintoism, and then you are a religious person, but you can't admit it. This is then, only a semantic problem, and a game of words and philosophical believes. As you in the essence believes in the same thing as in some religions or philosophies. If I write a computer program with a superior AI, does this make me to a god? Can I demand my softwares equal rights as a supreme being? And as this AI has superior intelligence and knowing, can it be elected as a presidential candidate if we change the law? Probably so. What does you more worth than my superior AI that was created and acts? What I created as the God of this higher intelligence, has now equal rights according to your logic, it has a "nothing soul" as much as you do. Will you understand or respect this view and standpoint?
Noface
Dan Tech
Posted over 3 years ago
Can technology replace human intelligence?
Does dead material have a soul? Well I personally don't think so. But is there many people here that is true believers in the Shinto religion? It's a no brainer... If I throw a pebble and it shows a random nature when it falls to the ground, does this point out that the pebble has a brain? The noise in signal cables, does this show that my stereo has intelligence? And if I construct a switch that is complicated enough, does this make the switch on the wall conscious? If I touch it, and the room lights up, does this it state that I have a moral responsibility to the switch on the wall? And computers that only makes calculations: Can different states in a computer memory, have feelings? Do i offend my frying pan at home, if cook the wrong dish? Is it the software or hardware that is aware? I guess its hard to understand computers if you haven't designed CPU:s and written in assembly language, and so on. This makes me worried if people will start demanding my dishwashers ethical rights. As some here seem to think that things are intelligent just because they can react. If these reactions is complex, does this make the complicated fabric in my clothes to have feelings? Does a cloud or ocean or the wind or a flower to have intelligence and conscious awareness? And does the universe, the mightiest of them all have rights? Or is every atom intelligent? and has the individual cells in our bodies feelings? So: Just because we make dead material do complex things, does not make it contentious? And if a let a plant control a super computer that makes better scores on IQ tests and know much more than you do, and it was all the right answers. Does that make this plant superior to a human being? So my question to you is: When humanoids and robots starts to act intelligent, and you will have relations to these... will you also demand these dead materials their ethical rights, to be treated fairly and forbid to use them as slaves and to treat them as commodities?
Noface
Dan Tech
Posted over 3 years ago
Can technology replace human intelligence?
If so, do you think it should be forbidden for cars to drive by themselves? Trains in Japan has done this for almost 20 years now. And these cars already exists. It's just a question when these will be common on our streets, and when the technology is trusted enough by the authorities. But it will probably only be a problem when companies misuse technology. But as companies have a long history of misusing information on the internet, I ask: When will we see companies that specializes if deceiving AI's to follow their commands? It's already somewhat true in the stock market. But when will we see it elsewhere?
Noface
Dan Tech
Posted over 3 years ago
Can technology replace human intelligence?
In reliance on multiple guess test, "i guess" it would not be hard to make an AI that outperforms any human being. And that begs for the question... Does a computer cheat if it use internet? and does it cheat if it reads on it's harddisk? :-) A computer don't even need any response alternatives for an IQ above 150 today... "They have integrated a mathematical model that models human-like problem solving. The program that solves progressive matrices scores IQ 100 and has the unique ability of being able to solve the problems without having access to any response alternatives. The group has improved the program that specialises in number sequences to the point where it is now able to ace the tests, implying an IQ of at least 150." http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2012/02/120214100719.htm
Noface
Dan Tech
Posted over 3 years ago
Can technology replace human intelligence?
There isn't a multi-core dilemma. There is just people, that don't know any electronics and how to write compilers, and people that don't use modern technology. They will think this is a problem because they don't know any better. Computers made past that point long ago. Computers today that is used for heavy calculations has thousands of cores. With common graphic cards you can do many thousands of calculations in parallel. Ever heard of Open-CL? Check it out, you aught to know it. Ever heard of High-frequency trading for example? They now use FPGA's, and can calculate and respond to hundreds of thousands parameters in parallel. These languages to program these parallel systems has been around since the 1980s. And if you think thats difficult, then there is computer languages that fix that also. Check out Mitrion-C This isn't a problem. Even programs like word and photoshop and webbrowsers, scales to thousands of calculation units. Just insert a modern graphics card in your computer.
Noface
Dan Tech
Posted over 3 years ago
Can technology replace human intelligence?
I think Damon Horowitz convolutions are on the right track, but miss some very important ingredients. If you where to build an AI, you must pay great attention to philosophy and the dark sides of human psychology. I think most research about AI is failing, because they do not have enough correct knowledge regarding psychology. If they would like to come further, they should study the work of Edward L. Deci. He is according to me, the greatest source, regarding human motivational issues, underlying the self-regulation of behavior in humans. If you take IQ for example. IQ is all about pattern matching. And at the same time, Damon criticizes the AI community for the fact that it's all about pattern matching. There is no wonder why computers today can get higher IQ scores than the general population. Today there is computer programs that get full scores on IQ tests and has an IQ above 150. Some here has criticized AI, merely stating that computers can't get a great AI, because you have to train them like a infant and a child. That criticism is based on poor fundamental reasoning. You just have to train one computer only. After that you can just copy the data from the training, and give it to any other copy of the hardware. In other words you can give that skill, to any number of computers.
Noface
Dan Tech
Posted over 3 years ago
Can technology replace human intelligence?
Can technology replace human intelligence? -Yes, it can and it already does. Can technology replace all human intelligence? Maybe, the thermonuclear bomb is already invented. Technology will probably outlive the human. Is the same true for animals and bacteria? Probably so. What makes human intelligence hard to replicate? -The fact that humans are conscious and aware. But is this our common goal to replicate human intelligence in AI? When AI starts to walk down our streets as humanoids, they will most probably be terminated by real humans. They have to be guarded by other real humans to "survive". -Could we generate human intelligence? Yes, and it will most likely not be conscious, but it will act as if it was. And they will evoke human feelings(as we are genetically evolved to do). Some humans will start to demand their rights. Humans 'human intelligence' is not evolved enough to handle this and their other superior super human capabilities. But humans will evolve past all AI when our DNA is threatened. Real humans will then evolve to a new species that survives these threats, and this is probably the human destiny. Can it be simulated? -Human intelligence can be simulated. Yes, why not? But who shall judge what's human? Are you human enough? Is all humans human? And are humans all intelligent? The right question is not if, but "why simulate?" If we don't take care of the gifts that humans have, why then create human AI? What if we created a model of the human brain, would it be able to think? -Yes, an "exact replica" would be slow, but a simulation would probably be many billion times faster. But if we really what human intelligence, wouldn't it be easier to achieve this if we could genetically engineer a human halfbreed that doesn't have a conscious awareness, that still can act, as you in the bar. So this is fully possible. Do our children really want human AI? It's not a question if there will be human AI, but when, and how we will handle the situation.