Garth Lenz

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Garth Lenz
Posted over 3 years ago
Garth Lenz: The true cost of oil
The government of Alberta has certified 0.15% of the land mined as "reclaimed." The one very small area certified as reclaimed is not open to the public. As one who has been to Fort McMurray and photographed there extensively I do not find it very hard to tell where there has been past activity!
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Garth Lenz
Posted over 3 years ago
Garth Lenz: The true cost of oil
Quotation marks denote Roland M's remarks. "It's actually a bigger deposit than Saudi but still small in comparison with Hydrates (methane in permafrost)" We are talking about "proven" oil reserves. Those reasonably recoverable. - "Mining is *always* high impact at the actual mine site, but mines (& pipelines) are usually small & isolated within the environment that they sit." Pipeline and associate infrastructure, particualrly relating to InSitu has resulted in 90% reduction of certain key species such as woodland Caribou. Results of a ten year Pembina Institute study. "These mines may be large but it says nothing of their area relative to the boreal forest (occupying 60% of Canada, the world's second largest country), nor any impact outside their immediate area." Other than toxics outflows, water depletion, pollution, pipeline spills, etc. this is correct and I never actually said otherwise if you carefully listen. "Finally, governments are responsible for preserving habitat, wildlife corridors, requiring rehabilitation of sites & monitoring - and presumably Canada has done so on all counts" Canada has not done so. The industry is largely self monitoring. An inter government multi party panel studying the research to date had to admit that it was largely bogus and insufficient. You can view Minister John Baird saying as much if you look for the press conference online. It is also in "The Tipping Point" documentary. "If real, pollution in the Athabasca River is an issue of monitoring & deserves to be fixed but not made an issue of (same for contaminated fish) ...I say 'if real' as oil sands are found under the entire region, including naturally at the surface near the Athabasca River itself, so it's not clear that the pollution is the result of mining. The Alberta government states that natural seepage is 'huge' & 'far exceeds anything you'd be able to detect from the industrial" Natural seepage does include PAH's, mercury, cyanide, etc. that are found
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Garth Lenz
Posted over 3 years ago
Garth Lenz: The true cost of oil
You really need to cite sources. You say. "97% of the area that produces Oil Sands is not mined." Given that "Alberta’s oil sands underlie 140,200 square kilometres (km2) (54,132 square miles) of land in the Athabasca, Cold Lake and Peace River areas in northern Alberta. -Source: Alberta Energy - Based on your statement that 3% of that area is mined, that results in an area of 4206 square kilometers. This of course does take into account the much larger area dedicated to Insitu developments which consumes even more water and energy and produces at least as much greenhouse gas. The government of Alberta has certified an impressive 0.15% of the land "disturbed" as reclaimed and it only took them 40+ years to do it considering the Tar Sands development began in the mid 60's. There is no attempt to replace wetlands which is the greater percentage of land destroyed for the creation of the mines. More facts: While bitumen deposits lie underneath 140,000 sq km of forest, the government has already leased or approved a remarkable area for either mining or in situ production: 1.5 million hectares. That’s 20 times the size of city of Calgary; 40 times the size of Denver or 17 times the size of Berlin. (Source: BioCarbon: http://www.globalforestwatch.ca/climateandforests/bitumenbiocarbon/BioCarbon_WEB_LR.pdf Approximately $200 billion have been invested in the Alberta Tar Sands. They currently produce about more than 1.5 million barrels of oil per day. Within 20 years, they’re projected to produce four billion barrels per day, increasing to five billion a few years thereafter. Alberta Energy has boasted that the landscape being industrialized by rapid tar sands development could evenutally accommodate one Florida, two New Brunswicks, four Vancouvers and four Vancouver Islands.
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Garth Lenz
Posted over 3 years ago
Garth Lenz: The true cost of oil
Rusty, Humans will be involved and humans will make errors. The stakes and repercussions of those errors are that much higher with a tanker the size of the empire state building carrying ten times the payload of the Exxon Valdez trying to navigate through the very tight and treacherous turns of this passage. Just ask anyone who sails these waters. Once through Douglas Channel they will encounter the aptly named Hecate Strait - the world's fourth most dangerous watercourse according to environment Canada. Please spell out how this is misleading Rusty.
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Garth Lenz
Posted over 3 years ago
Garth Lenz: The true cost of oil
And... if you are interested in learning more about my work on this and other related issues please see: http://www.blueearth.org/projects/index.cfm?projectID=115
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Garth Lenz
Posted over 3 years ago
Garth Lenz: The true cost of oil
Thank you for your comment and interest. there are a number of environmental organizations working on this issue. Natural Resources Defense Council, Sierra Club, Friends of the Earth, and many others. You could try googling re. the groups in your area or those you may have an affinity with or if you let me know your jurisdiction I might be able to offer some more information. I think one of the most effective things that can be done right now is to make known your concerns regarding plans to expand this project by way of new pipeline proposals. I also think that the canadian governments threats to the EU is another area which groups based in Europe are working to counter. http://www.theglobeandmail.com/news/national/canada-threatens-eu-over-oil-sands-emissions-rating/article2343985/?utm_medium=Feeds%3A%20RSS%2FAtom&utm_source=Home&utm_content=2343985
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Garth Lenz
Posted over 3 years ago
Garth Lenz: The true cost of oil
Thank you Mitch. This seems to be a typical tactic, misquote a person and attack them for things they didn't actually say. In hindsight I would not have made that opening comment as in retrospect it is just too hard to quantify. In retrospect, I would have just let the images and the information speak for itself. thanks, Garth