Jul 22 2012: I agree we draw from our past and pull all sorts of things from our mind, but I'd argue it's partially true.
I think intuition is dominated by our ability to understand other peoples' body language, chemical releases by other people, then informed via past experiences. In split seconds, our body picks up chemical compounds, emotional responses, muscle tension, etc and our body and mind react. Be aware of what cues you get from body language as you reflect on why you made decisions, it may lead to some insight, it may not.
Jul 20 2012: I think sharing successes should be more socially acceptable. Success can lend itself to a lot of insights if people take the time to deconstruct their actions in the context and walk you through the key aspects of why their success occurred. It helps identify data that may or may not be applicable elsewhere. However, serving people drinks, lends me an earful of success "pissing contests" that get boring and are easily identifiable via tone. While this might sound like I'm condemning it, I'd rather people go into detail as to why things worked out the way they did and less about them just saying they're successful. I think it's easy to get defensive about it because we all have different qualifiers for success and it's easy to jump to the assumption one person talking about their successes means they look down on a lifestyle we might prefer.
I also think failure is outright demonized in our culture. If you fail once, you seem to be deemed immediately incompetent and there's no such thing as a beginner. You are forever damned until you find some awesome form of redemption. Sometimes I think we only listen to successful people who have stories of failure and ignore failures who have stories of self fulfillment. But that's just me.
Jul 20 2012: Myf. You're first response was just as revealing as your second.
It's fine! Honestly, it made me realize a few things:
1) In order to incentivize long term thinking, we have to teach it
2) Reflective behavior can sometimes limit one's ability to look forward
3) If we spent all the time planning, would we get anywhere?
4) You're right, we tend to not think about long term consequence of our actions, but sometimes in doing so, we create something that changes everything in ways we never thought could.
Your comments made me realize I have to stop popping people with hindsight and instead of saying I told you so, start asking, "Well. Now that this has happened, what can we do to prepare in the future? What should we look for next? How do we plan better?" etc.
Both responses, edited and non were perfect for me and made me think more. ::laughs:: Admittedly, I felt like a twat at first, but chewing on both allowed me to think. So, props to you Myf! You're awesome and I genuinely mean that!
Jul 20 2012: You're right. I'm thinking in hindsight and reflecting back imposing "should've thinking." Feels like I'm wasting time instead of trying to push forward on something more forward thinking.
Jul 18 2012: While I'm aware of some watch dog sites, most of these seem to be played off by one or both political parties as "biased" or "ignorant."
Maybe as an economic model or whatever, we need to think about how to encourage honesty, transparency, and loyalty.
Some might argue those might only be applicable to one side of the coin, but it should be multi-faceted. Given the rules, after following new ones, will probably be worked to be changed is probably a given. We can't have static laws as our society develops and changes. Unless we don't change our society that much.
I may have to think about this some more before I pose another TED question. Thank you all.
Jul 18 2012: I agree with a good portion of the comments below.
@Bob, I agree whole heartedly with your desire for increased accountability and taking responsibility. I too have seen how people in power have failed to take responsibility for their actions or more or less abuse their privileges. I also agree with loyalty, honesty, and doing your duty.
@Gail I also agree, it seems, most of our economic model in the U.S is geared towards "next quarter thinking." This is disruptive to the social systems within our country and even countries.
@Dale Tribunocracy seems interesting. I've read the website and unfortunately, won't be able to think about it too long before this conversation is ended.
So, we have a political system that allows us to impeach people we don't like in office. We just need to get enough people together. That goes for any office. If people are so fed up with things, why haven't they tried this yet?
When it comes to voter turn out, it's been low, predominantly due to the thinking of "we're voting for the lesser of two evils."
So it seems what we need in place, at least until we develop a tribunocracy, is a system that mobilizes and increases the political awareness and power of the citizens. It needs to go public. It needs to go viral. It needs to be unbiased.
That may change the political scheme and help focus politicians on anything other then the "next election."
As for this group, we need more corporate watch dogs. Why? To increase their transparency. They need to go public. They need to go viral. They need to report the good and the bad and help influence consumer reports and Wall Street stocks.
A company that's reported to be poisoning citizens? Break their stocks. A company reported to be hiring more and giving them above living wages? Boost their stocks a bit or endorse their products.
We forget that under leadership we have a tendency to take things for granted feeling our own initiatives drowned in the sea of all the quiet voices around us.
Maybe we have to change our conception of "exchange." I just started reading a Derek Jensen book where he discusses briefly that in nature a bear eats the fruit of a bush, but doesn't exactly give the bush anything. Then the bear poops and more bushes grow.
What if we could develop a system of "exchanges" like that? Instead of real-time methods, perhaps more of a delayed response to help productivity. It's similar to the bartering system Colleen participates in her community, but it could probably be tweaked.
Also, going back to the bear and the bush, sure the bear seems to be just taking, but I think it's important that it too contributes to the growth of the resource. It's almost as if we need suppliers and makers. Suppliers have the knowledge to grow or get materials. Makers have the skills to use those supplies as well as contribute to harvesting or developing tools for suppliers.
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A comment on Conversation: What is the source of intuition?
I think intuition is dominated by our ability to understand other peoples' body language, chemical releases by other people, then informed via past experiences. In split seconds, our body picks up chemical compounds, emotional responses, muscle tension, etc and our body and mind react. Be aware of what cues you get from body language as you reflect on why you made decisions, it may lead to some insight, it may not.
A comment on Conversation: Why is it socially acceptable to complain but not talk up successes?
I also think failure is outright demonized in our culture. If you fail once, you seem to be deemed immediately incompetent and there's no such thing as a beginner. You are forever damned until you find some awesome form of redemption. Sometimes I think we only listen to successful people who have stories of failure and ignore failures who have stories of self fulfillment. But that's just me.
A reply on Conversation: Let's reward long term thinking.
A reply on Conversation: Let's reward long term thinking.
It's fine! Honestly, it made me realize a few things:
1) In order to incentivize long term thinking, we have to teach it
2) Reflective behavior can sometimes limit one's ability to look forward
3) If we spent all the time planning, would we get anywhere?
4) You're right, we tend to not think about long term consequence of our actions, but sometimes in doing so, we create something that changes everything in ways we never thought could.
Your comments made me realize I have to stop popping people with hindsight and instead of saying I told you so, start asking, "Well. Now that this has happened, what can we do to prepare in the future? What should we look for next? How do we plan better?" etc.
Both responses, edited and non were perfect for me and made me think more. ::laughs:: Admittedly, I felt like a twat at first, but chewing on both allowed me to think. So, props to you Myf! You're awesome and I genuinely mean that!
A reply on Conversation: Let's reward long term thinking.
Thanks for putting me in my place.
A reply on Conversation: Let's reward long term thinking.
A comment on Conversation: Let's reward long term thinking.
Maybe as an economic model or whatever, we need to think about how to encourage honesty, transparency, and loyalty.
Some might argue those might only be applicable to one side of the coin, but it should be multi-faceted. Given the rules, after following new ones, will probably be worked to be changed is probably a given. We can't have static laws as our society develops and changes. Unless we don't change our society that much.
I may have to think about this some more before I pose another TED question. Thank you all.
A comment on Conversation: Let's reward long term thinking.
@Bob, I agree whole heartedly with your desire for increased accountability and taking responsibility. I too have seen how people in power have failed to take responsibility for their actions or more or less abuse their privileges. I also agree with loyalty, honesty, and doing your duty.
@Gail I also agree, it seems, most of our economic model in the U.S is geared towards "next quarter thinking." This is disruptive to the social systems within our country and even countries.
@Dale Tribunocracy seems interesting. I've read the website and unfortunately, won't be able to think about it too long before this conversation is ended.
So, we have a political system that allows us to impeach people we don't like in office. We just need to get enough people together. That goes for any office. If people are so fed up with things, why haven't they tried this yet?
When it comes to voter turn out, it's been low, predominantly due to the thinking of "we're voting for the lesser of two evils."
So it seems what we need in place, at least until we develop a tribunocracy, is a system that mobilizes and increases the political awareness and power of the citizens. It needs to go public. It needs to go viral. It needs to be unbiased.
That may change the political scheme and help focus politicians on anything other then the "next election."
As for this group, we need more corporate watch dogs. Why? To increase their transparency. They need to go public. They need to go viral. They need to report the good and the bad and help influence consumer reports and Wall Street stocks.
A company that's reported to be poisoning citizens? Break their stocks. A company reported to be hiring more and giving them above living wages? Boost their stocks a bit or endorse their products.
We forget that under leadership we have a tendency to take things for granted feeling our own initiatives drowned in the sea of all the quiet voices around us.
A comment on Conversation: Can you suggest a different or better rule/s to use in our society instead of the current exchange rule?
Maybe we have to change our conception of "exchange." I just started reading a Derek Jensen book where he discusses briefly that in nature a bear eats the fruit of a bush, but doesn't exactly give the bush anything. Then the bear poops and more bushes grow.
What if we could develop a system of "exchanges" like that? Instead of real-time methods, perhaps more of a delayed response to help productivity. It's similar to the bartering system Colleen participates in her community, but it could probably be tweaked.
Also, going back to the bear and the bush, sure the bear seems to be just taking, but I think it's important that it too contributes to the growth of the resource. It's almost as if we need suppliers and makers. Suppliers have the knowledge to grow or get materials. Makers have the skills to use those supplies as well as contribute to harvesting or developing tools for suppliers.
A reply on Conversation: Can you suggest a different or better rule/s to use in our society instead of the current exchange rule?
This kind of reminds me of ant colonies. Where roles are specific to types of ants, except in economic form.