Nov 8 2011: Jah - interesting indeed, but what if the IP owner can CHOOSE who and when to expose his/her idea to? it could be protected on sunday and exposed on monday..
Nov 8 2011: Kyle - this model basically exists in the pharma industry, only there a company can "sit" on a patent for a drug for 30 years i think - then in becomes a "generic" drug and is open to all to develop and sell. what if we bring that model to all other IP-protected things?
Nov 8 2011: :)
i would have to agree, although...gets me thinking a little bit...think of what happens in the music industry, film industry, soon with TC content, the kickstarter model etc...
Nov 8 2011: Kaustuv - absolutely. which is why i believe in relational ownership, if you like, which is much more relevant to the world of collaborative design/development, your original point. i really believe that the patent system will collapse at some point.
Nov 8 2011: i agree.
my only reservation here would be that you will need to accurately define what an "idea" is, and what would it take to develop one. it's easy to see what the patenting system is paramount to the pharma industry, but at the same time how, as you correctly say, is almost destructive in other areas, and no wonder that open-source has originated essentially in the SW universe.
Nov 8 2011: Kaustuv - it's not like a thought it through or anything :) - but i would argue that technology as we know it NOW as with it's exponential growth of capabilities will enable co-creators to not just manage a project (we all know that is happening) but also manage "authorship portions" if you will, bounded of course by pre-determined rules of engagement. as a designer and creator of IP, i can honestly say that if i knew that my rights on creation X were secure - it would take a load of my shoulders even if i knew that my "share", in whatever form - would be smaller. on the contrary, i would have been happy to share it with others. now there's a start-up for you - an intelligent IP-sharing engine :)
easy? - no.
possible? - absolutely.
Nov 8 2011: Aditya - ideally, and ideologically - i am in complete agreement with you. however, we exist under not only the rules of the legislator, but more importantly - under the regime of human nature: it is human to want to own, to need to own. it is not a "bad" thing to have ownership or claim authorship of something by default. it is true that the system underwhich most of us create is suffocating and abusive and needs to be changed. but i wouldn't rule out ownership as such.
Nov 8 2011: well, one way to look at this question is to take a page out of the "micro-payment" economy - create a "micro-authorship" system. if we assume that it is easier to collaborate (remotely or otherwise), easier to document and backtrack each contributor's steps, easy/er to follow on the footsteps of the complete product, whatever that may be - then is something has been created by a 1000 collaborators all 1000 should share ownership and authorship, unless stated otherwise.
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A reply on Conversation: Despite the controversy over patents, what is a progressive take on authorship in the collaborative world?
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A reply on Conversation: Despite the controversy over patents, what is a progressive take on authorship in the collaborative world?
A reply on Conversation: Despite the controversy over patents, what is a progressive take on authorship in the collaborative world?
A reply on Conversation: Despite the controversy over patents, what is a progressive take on authorship in the collaborative world?
i would have to agree, although...gets me thinking a little bit...think of what happens in the music industry, film industry, soon with TC content, the kickstarter model etc...
A reply on Conversation: Despite the controversy over patents, what is a progressive take on authorship in the collaborative world?
A reply on Conversation: Despite the controversy over patents, what is a progressive take on authorship in the collaborative world?
my only reservation here would be that you will need to accurately define what an "idea" is, and what would it take to develop one. it's easy to see what the patenting system is paramount to the pharma industry, but at the same time how, as you correctly say, is almost destructive in other areas, and no wonder that open-source has originated essentially in the SW universe.
A reply on Conversation: Despite the controversy over patents, what is a progressive take on authorship in the collaborative world?
easy? - no.
possible? - absolutely.
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A comment on Conversation: Despite the controversy over patents, what is a progressive take on authorship in the collaborative world?