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What's your excuse for not pursuing your passion?

Mr. Smith talked about all kinds of excuses we are making for not going for it in life. I have many tiered dreams in life, and while some are checked off (like working abroad), others still need to be (like changing the world). I find myself thinking that there are too many gatekeepers in the world and too much potential for environmental destruction (i.e. putting out a certain product), so I am always rethinking my "passion", and hoping that I don't come across something where others or the world have to suffer just because of my own ego / narcissistic need to self-actualize.

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    Mar 13 2012: Because life comes in between.
    Pursuing passion is choosing a different life, maybe a different carrier, a different place to live. To do that i have to finish all obligations i have in the life i've chosen now, and thats a hell of a job and i'm working on it. And i must be confident that this risk will pay off. Again i cant pursue my passion abandoning the current life and things i'm doing now. This situation arise when you become late to realise your passion and destiny..but its not too late.
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      Mar 14 2012: Hi Pranoy, in my Asian culture responsibility and obligation are huge. They are not necessarily shackles, in fact, they teach a lot and prepare a certain care and discipline about doing anything in life. I think, if we are "preparing" for our ultimate life of purpose, even with small, mundane tasks, with a sincere heart, we will get there and it won't be too late.
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        Mar 14 2012: Yes, the preparations should start right from the moment when we realise our passion and purpose of life. And from that moment onwards we should start slowly pulling ourself back from a life without passion and push into a life that will bring us close to our passions.
        Btw i'm also asian and i think, the responsibility and obligations are huge in all cultures. It's upto the individuls to ignore them or be loyal to them.
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        Mar 15 2012: I share your Asian culture of responsibility and obligation....and I see around me so many limiting parameters[ because I am a social activist ,working with a lot of urban poor women and children] and many do not have the luxury of choice. For those who do I think it is possible to balance both..being there for those who depend upon you while keeping aside a space in your life for doing your own thing...
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    Mar 15 2012: You also have to consider this whole concept of pursuing a passion is relatively new. 30 years ago, they called work WORK because it was challenging and not-so-fun. That was the concept that many people built life-long careers on.

    People today are just embracing the idea that you should actually like what you do for a living. Some people still embrace the concept that work is called work for a reason.

    The reality is that most people don't know or understand what their passions are. People have interests, but there is a far stretch between an interest and a passion. Even if they know and understand their passions, most folks do not have the courage necessary to embark on the long and uncertain journey to passion.

    It'll mean that they'll perhaps lack security, go broke, have to move, acknowledge some hard truths about themself and others or learn a completely new way of living.

    Most folks just aren't that flexible. And I understand on some level - why bet the farm when the outcomes are uncertain. You may not discover your passions or fail and give up along the way. Why not accept a life of unfulfilled certainty than fulfilled uncertainty? Most people do.
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      Mar 16 2012: I totally agree with the first half of your comment--in my country India especially children were raised to embark on careers which gave status, and security , Parents saved and scrimped if they couldnt or splurged on expensive degrees for their offspring if they could. If it coincided with what you loved well bully for you but otherwise no diversions. Some still followed their calling and were lucky to know what they wanted very early and painted,wrote ,sang,danced,invented their way to success thumbed their collective noses at people who merely worked. For them there was never any choice bcs their passion blotted everything out.But most people live commonplace mundane lives a comfortable meding of work,family,interests ,hobbies friends ---the unfulfilled certainty you so aptly put....and that sounds so dreary and humdrum...while the impassioned life is exciting ,heady ,stimulating
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    Mar 15 2012: I have seen many successful people who's passion is inextricably linked to ego and power, this tarnishes true passion which I believe comes from deep knowledge, skill,understanding or attitude to something of value which one has no choice but to SHARE. So arguably as Larry Smith alludes to- if for ANY reason one doesn't share or pursue passion , it is NOT passion but merely an interest, worthy of average attention and unremarkable comments in its contribution to the world. In modern society I think people have too many interests and not enough passion. I come to TED to read/ think and exchange passions. As we grow and change so it makes sense that our passions can change.....but if they are truly passions, I think we have a number of core values and beliefs which underpin our choices from an early age .Thank you Genevieve for a great question.
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    Mar 15 2012: At times, I let the critical/judgmental voice inside my head voice its opinion too much: "You don't know what you're doing...you're NOT an artist...you don't have the funds..." So, now I visualize putting duck tape over that negative mouth and say YES YOU CAN! 2012 has been a year of YES: learned to ski, surf and learning to play the cello (One of my GREAT passions)! Throw away all weakness. Tell your body that it is strong, tell your mind that it is strong, and have unbounded faith and hope in yourself.” – Swami Vivekananda
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      Mar 15 2012: YES YOU CAN!
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      Mar 15 2012: Isn't it weird how a parents voice comes through like that sometimes...
      But it did teach you resilience.
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    Mar 17 2012: When I have the time, I have no money. When I have money, I have no time. Most of the time, I have neither.
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    Mar 15 2012: I make no excuses. I live my passion.

    It has changed somewhat with the passage of time but well worth the journey.
  • Mar 14 2012: My "excuse" is my morals. I have a passion for horses, but I quickly realized that the only way to make a living in the horse industry is by putting the animal's welfare second. I decided not to do that.

    But, IMO, the idea that everyone should pursue their passion is faulty anyway. How many people do you know have a passion for cleaning public toilets? If everyone followed their passion we'd have thousands of rock stars and no janitors. Besides, the way Larry talks you'd think that anyone who isn't following their passion is not contributing to society at all, which isn't true; they may be perfectly good at whatever job they're doing.
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      Mar 15 2012: You're right. If we look at following passion as a human-centric, selfish pursuit it's quite liable to be impractical in society (and bad for animals, others, the earth etc.). So, society has thought up numerous ways to pay us to contribute, however un-sexy, or else stuff would never get done. Then people like Larry make this wake-up call to all those who have this "social fatigue" by poking at the individual within us, which we have supposedly left behind. In a way, Larry also quietly necessitates a society that operates on the backs of people with less mobility to pursue their dreams, thereby necessitating an underclass, while those more able can become rock stars (or reality tv stars).

      I believe there are other TED talks which have been trying to newly implant in our minds that our society needs to shift towards compassion, regard for the environment and the future etc. as new social goods. So, one day, our dreams will shift and the goal of having your own reality show, in the Western world, will be seen as dumb.
      • Mar 15 2012: reality tv shows can't seriously be regarded as a passion pursuit. Passion comes from within, to be enjoyed from within.
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      Mar 15 2012: I don't think I agree. I am not certain everyone's passion is related to their work. Pursing your passion means you move in the direction of your passion. So for instance, if your passion is your family and they are what is important, it does not matter what your work is. So cleaning toilets and making beds is pursing passion because it gives to the family.

      If you passion is music it does not mean you are a rockstar. You could work in the business but perhaps you work to be able to enjoy your passion.

      But Larry is insightful. Because to get up every day, day after day to go to a job is easier if it somehow contributes to your passion. But your job may or may not BE your passion.
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        Mar 15 2012: Hi Linda,
        I agree...passion is not necessarily related to work experience. You say..."pursing your passion means you move in the direction of your passion".....good point! What if, as with me, my passion is life, so that passion is actually moving with me in every moment?

        Funny you mention cleaning toilets...been there done it!!! At the same time I was pursuing an acting career, I also owned and managed 32 rental units. It was not unusual for me to go to the city for acting/modeling jobs, then go back to the country and clean an apartment...including washing toilets....LOL:>)

        I was pampered and paid very well with the acting/modeling, then the next day, I'd be the washer-woman with my hands in the dirt of a trashed apartment. I LOVED and was passionate about it all!!! For me, it was all part of the process of really "living", so I appreciated, and continue to appreciate ALL life experiences. I know I'm weird...can't help myself!!! LOL:>)
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          Mar 19 2012: Its not weird at all but a gift which adds another dimension to living..because the ultimate passion IS life and living..it fills us with zest and the good old joie de vivire to every facet of our lives and gives us the confidence to take on challenges when we make our choices:)
      • Mar 15 2012: "I am not certain everyone's passion is related to their work." You're right but Larry is clearly talking about careers.
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        Mar 24 2012: Dear Sangita,
        I appreciate your kindness, sensitivity and understanding. As an older adult, I realize that my passion for all aspects of life is not weird, and I was having fun with the idea in the previous comment:>)

        There have been times in my younger days, when my passion, joy and unconditional love for life was thought to be "weird" by some people in my life, and it was challenging for me to understand how they COULD NOT feel passionate about being fully engaged in each and every moment. I still have difficulty understanding why people do not want to embrace life in that way, and it's ok...we all have differences and choices:>)

        I learned, as I traveled the life journey, that my passion for all of life is indeed a gift which adds MANY dimensions to the life adventure, and as you say..."the ultimate passion IS life and living...fills us with zest...impacts every facet of our lives...gives us confidence to face challenges, and remember that we have choices. Thanks for the reminders Sangita:>)
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    Mar 14 2012: Whoa! This conversation grew massive tentacles upon checking it! :)

    In Japan, I went to a Zen Meditation class (touristy~) and at the end, we were able to ask the Zen Master questions. I asked: "do you meditate?" And surprisingly, he said "no, never".

    He said that he tries to practice Zen in every little movement, every action he makes. To be aware that every moment is precious, and maximizing that. Perhaps that is a life of passion.
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      Mar 14 2012: Hi Genevieve:>)
      I agree that every moment is precious, maximizing the passion in the moment and creating a life of passion is important to me. Passion, to me, is not something "out there" to be pursued, but rather, something that lives in my heart always. Every single moment provides the opportunity to experience passion, if/when we choose to percieve it. There are many different interests that draw my attention at different times in my life, and one or the other interests may take center stage at any given time, but EVERYTHING I experience is felt with passion at some level:>)

      Passion: syn: fervor, ardor, enthusiasm, zeal.
      I cannot see any reason to NOT live my life with these qualities in every moment:>)
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    Mar 13 2012: I once wanted to be a marine biologist. My Father told me "There are no jobs in marine biology. Get a good job so you can afford to SCUBA dive on the weekends". I used to think that was great advice. I took engineering instead.

    I worked for Hewlett-Packard and after two years decided to leave and start my own business - when I was just 23. So many HP guys who had been there 5, 10, 20 years said "I have been wanting to do that for years! I will do it one day.". I bet that none of them ever did. Since then I started a business, sold a business, started another business, and now have training centers in 50 countries. Yep, it has been hard work, but I have always followed my passion. There have been so MANY times when I could have done something less risky but chose to continue to follow my passion. I have two children (the best boys you'll ever meet) and I have balanced work and home life by working from home.

    Why am I telling you my life story? You really can follow your passion if you break free of the excuses and the barriers thrown up by your parents, family, friends - and your own mind. Stop thinking of all the reasons why you should not do something and focus on how you will do it (not how you could do it). Get a focus, make a plan and do it. It sounds easy, but you have to make a change in your mind - once you create a plan, once you take your first step, everything changes. Ignore the naysayers - they are fearful that if you make it they will feel bad that they did not also try.

    And don't make it about the money. Happiness and success should instead be about how much you enjoy your life - how you spring out of bed in the morning with enthusiasm for what you are doing.
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    Mar 13 2012: I'm pursuing it, Genevieve. I teach kids, I love teaching kids, and every glowing moment that I see a student's face light up because she has outdone herself makes the piles of corporate money I've passed up feel worth it.
  • Mar 21 2012: Here's a little twist, a little monkey wrench to throw into the conversation. Some people are idea people, Some people are able to implement ideas. Some are good at starting things, but not finishing things. Some don't get ideas, but can follow up on other's ideas and bring them to fruition. There are many types of people as far as this goes. I don't think it is wrong, or a matter of lack of discipline, etc. Maybe it is an aspect of humans working together, as we are a group animal.

    While I love to create things, I get Way more ideas than are practical to actually do. I could sell ideas. When I realized this, I realized that is just the way I am. I should probably write them down, or sketch them out. Often I do, and keep them in a folder.
    So while I said that my passion is to create things, just because I am not creating all of these things in a material sense, I am still creating them in my mind. So my passion is still going on, even if I am not making them.
    This train of thought has to do with perhaps an acceptance of different ways of looking at pursuing one's passion. Can anyone relate to this?
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      Mar 22 2012: I TOTALLY relate to this Laura:>)
      I am passionate about everything, so my heart and mind are often in a state of creativity. I've had many wonderful life adventures simply because I said YES to the opportunities. While many of my friends were very one-goal oriented, I was exploring many different things. Sometimes, I felt that I wasn't disciplined enough to keep a steady course toward one goal. As an older person, I have accepted that I am different in this respect, and it's ok....I LOVE it now!

      I agree...there are many different types of people, and if we were all the same, with the same motivations and pursuits of passion, the world probably wouldn't be very interesting huh?

      I also am in agreement with you that acceptance of ourselves and others is a big part of the passion puzzle. Knowing ourselves and believing in what makes our heart sing is important. We do not all experience the same sense of passion, and that's probably a good thing! Perhaps we are meant to realize the balance we create by NOT being the same? I like to think so:>)
  • Mar 20 2012: I say, true success or happiness can only be achieved by the happy marriage between passion and profession. And anything less means, your happiness or success is hollow. My passion is to be a science and english teacher in a high school. But I amn't pursuing my passion, because in India from where I come from, this passion of mine is poorly paid and worse, seen as an avenue for the least intelligent and no-hopers. I'm settled into manufacturing but no matter what I achieve, my happiness quotient will not find its true bearings.
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      Mar 20 2012: Dear Veejay I find it interesting that you choose the metaphor of marriage..between passion and profession and end on a note of dejection and no hope for change. A marriage needs a lot of work to stay good and happy.You made certain choices because your priorities were influenced by responsibility and societal concerns and pragmatism overrode passion. But please dont give up ,believe and nurture your interest life may surprise you by somehow giving you an opportunity ,unfold another path. Meanwhile respect the choices you made and stand by yourself and happiness will be stronger. I offer this opinion with respect for your views because this is familiar territory for me and I have experienced what I say.regards
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    Mar 19 2012: Oh I just have to be honest here and say that I have no bloody excuse for not pursuing my passion, but the reasons are either 1) fear that I will fail, and 2) fear that I will succeed. If I fail I will look like a fool, and if I succeed, then I will have to take responsibility. I'll admit that I finally pursued my passions when I found a wife who wholly believed in me, and gave me a good many swift kicks on the backside for wasting so much time!
    • Mar 20 2012: Boy, I think you hit the nail on the head! Sounds just like my own excuses, and I am trying to get past them. If only we all had someone to give us those swift kicks, maybe we could get to our passions and be productive with them.
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    Mar 15 2012: My excuse - I need to pay the bills. So I have a job where I've lost the passion, but look forward to retirement (in about 10-15 years) where I can get back to something I'm passionate about. I don't know what that will be at that time, but I hope to be able to do something I enjoy every day for the rest of my life.
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      Mar 15 2012: In high school, my English Lit teacher (whom I loved) often told us that in retirement he and his wife would be traveling the world. Years later, I saw him on the bus and asked him what he was up to in retirement and he said that his wife became physically ill in older age and couldn't really leave the house.

      So, while I know that hot water and a nest-egg rock, a lot could change when you retire, so some attention to the present could be good!
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        Mar 15 2012: SO true Genevieve!!! Life is what happens sometimes, when we're making other plans!
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        Mar 15 2012: I'm trying to do what I can with what I have. I try to make time for some of my passions while still dealing with the 'real world' of billls and work obligations. I'll never make ends meet with my photography or crocheting, and they won't make me enough money to do some traveling. So, unfortunately, they have to wait to be truly and fully enjoyed until I can stop working.
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    Mar 14 2012: I have worked so long at jobs that I didn't want, but had to have, that I don't even know what my passion was, or is anymore. BUT, I have not lost hope, I am not dead yet. I have raised a family and there is still time. Now for a passion to pursue.

    Contrary to Larry's decree, I have told my kids to pursue their passion and have held myself up as an example of not getting trapped into a "good career" with a "solid company". Go for it, kids!
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    Mar 14 2012: If you don't pursue your passion, you are perhaps not passionate enough (yet). I believe there is a threshold you have to reach until you really get moving.
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    Mar 13 2012: I think it also depends on how you define passion. Some people may say that its something you enjoy spending your time on. Others would define it as an activity that is very hard to live without. I think that family is a passion for some people. I have a friend who is a genealogist who takes family and family history very seriously. She glows when she talks about her family and their history.

    But I think that for the majority of people, family isn't a passion. Its something that they love, that they are interested in, that completes part of whom they are, but it isn't their 'passion'. But once again, it depends on how you define passion.
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    Mar 12 2012: My excuse is: a lack of (psychological) support combined with the fact that I am notoriosuly undecided and that I value, maybe too much, other people's opinion. Also, I was not motivated enough and when I was I felt it was too late and now it's really too late...maybe it's fear of failure, after all.
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      Mar 13 2012: Then continue with your passion of unsupport - you will find plenty!
      Write a book about it!
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    Mar 24 2012: With one more day to go, I just wanted to post this and express my appreciation and entertainment at everyone opening up and sharing at what's got them in life!

    I think that, as far as we know, since this is our one shot at the human experience, we need to make sure that it is carried through with meaning. While that might mean a fabulous career or a healthy family or being in love or helping others realize their dreams or simply watching all this with wonder, it is certainly an individual choice. Discussing this in terms of an "excuse" for not having THE THING, might be too prescriptive of what it is A Passion is supposed to be.

    After reading all this, I feel that my "passion" is like a small drum that I carry inside and every movement and beat I make sounds it. Sometimes its for me to dance to, sometimes its for others to notice, but the point is to beat it with purpose. I might not know the entire score, but even an improvised rhythmic number here and now is fun to do!
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      Mar 24 2012: Genevieve,
      I LOVE the metaphor of the drumming passion! I agree....it is inside me in each and every moment...beating sometimes softly, sometimes with much more energy, and always with purpose...and it can be very much fun to recognize it in each moment:>)
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      Mar 24 2012: Genevieve, you say:
      "since this is our one shot at the human experience", I never felt that way.

      As long as I can remember which dates back at the baby carriage I had impressions of many a life.
      I think this always was the root of my passion. I never was much interested in my current life.
      But no matter what I did doing as life demanded of me I was at the same time occupied with my quest to understand all life and in search for a deeper experience and connection apart from all actuality.

      Maybe we're all in different stages and my life is a more review and summing up of many.

      So, people can be very different and as one needs to fly or climb a mountain the other one just closes the eyes to remember that flight.
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    Mar 24 2012: ///

    This was a great thread thanks Genevieve you provided a great read and real value in thinking outside ourselves... so break down the gates.... deliver on dreams....

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      Mar 24 2012: Hi Terry any excuse to be cognitive of WTH it is we are doing has been a big curiosity of mine. I think the world, in a way, is a teenager in terms of how we are figuring things out. We are slowly understanding the consequences of our power.
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        Mar 24 2012: I agree Genevieve, that we may be like teenagers in terms of how we are figuring things out, and we may be slowly starting to understand more about our power with a growth spurt!

        We have more advanced communication systems, which allow us to connect throughout the world, science and technology has given us the gifts of more advanced methods of studying the brain/mind, and we know that with evolution, the brain is expanding in size, and perhaps is ready for the next step of evolution in which we may discover more about the power of communication and connectivity throughout our world? Guess we'll see! It is also a big life-long curiosity of mine:>)
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    Mar 20 2012: When it is a matter of PASSION , no excuse please.....More accurately there is no place of excuse....If there is an excuse , better to check whether it's really one's PASSION or not
    • Mar 20 2012: Love your comment!:)

      Or you can also say that someone who has an excuse for not pursuing his passion is a coward.

      I am sometimes a coward.
      Whenever I have many excuses for not pursuing my goal, I soon realize that I am afraid to do IT.
      I just don't want to admit the fact that I wanted to avoid the obstacles and I didn't want to face the problem--which means I am not brave enough to pursue my passion at that moment.
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        Mar 20 2012: Hi Elizabeth
        Thanks for your compliments...I am obliged.
        If someone has the courage to say her/himself to be coward s/he is not a coward actually...well thats my view....
        The call of heart human can't ignore and thats the passion to my definition....no barrier can stop that...may be can slow down sometime but no worry passion will find it's way
        I am sure you will pursue whatever passion you hold...may be tomorrow or day after...
        Have a good day :)
  • Mar 20 2012: I think that this whole depends on how strong are your love and devotion to this passion. If you really want to do it, then you'll do it, no matter what happens, regardless of all the factors such as time and money. But if you don't want to archieve your goals, or you don't really care about it, you will not even try to try!!
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    Mar 19 2012: I agree with Cara below that the word "passion" has become used so broadly that people who use the word do not all mean the same thing by it. Does everyone by nature have something to find that will interest him so much that it qualifies as a passion? Is part of the reason that so many people are frustrated not to have discovered their passions that not everyone has by nature an interest that consumes him as the word passion originally conveyed - yet having and pursuing a passion has become a social expectation? Do some people not follow their "passions" because their strong interests are really not as compelling as passions would be? I think when a person has a passion, it is unmistakable. Anyone might fruitfully seek a strong, compelling interest (if one has not alreadyy surfaced) but I believe a passion would show itself. This does not mean every person with a true passion would follow it, but I think often when someone doesn't follow his declared "passion," it is because he actually has an interest rather than a passion. It may, in fact, be emotionally unhealthy for people to believe that they must have a passion to be normal or enlightened. I do have an obvious passion, but I don't feel that one necessarily must or that those who do are somehow better than those who don't.
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    Mar 19 2012: 'passion' - this word has lost meaning and import from the frequent cliches it finds itself subjected to from overuse in benign and unimaginative conversation
    i believe - 'trust your path, the rest will follow.'
    As soon as a personal talent and gift becomes driven by the dollar then I believe it changes from a holistic love of something to a quest for recognition of that self discovery. I think it is such a middle/upper class discussion for a western world as many in third world countries would just innately be doing what they were good at without thought or speculation of self fulfilment, this in turn would normally mean taking only enough from the earth. Unfortunately, people following passions sometimes have not been gentle and it has involved taking more than their fair share and plundering the earth's resources to do so.
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      Mar 21 2012: This... is interesting.

      Is 'trusting your path', however, not also susceptible to the path of the ungentle and overly plunderous?
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        Mar 21 2012: Hi Tim,
        Yes perhaps it could be but I believe to trust your path is to trust something bigger than you, something predetermined and possibly intangiable. i would hope when we were following a 'destiny' so to speak, it would be in the natural order of things and almost be part of your blue print, your design and genetic makeup. when it is a learned and then forced enthusiasm, I do not believe it is necessarily going to be in harmony with the divine, thus leaving greed and corruption to creep in.
        As an aside, I do believe it is ok to make a living from something you do well, in fact better than ok.
        It is a fair question Tim, as a cello player or a book lover, these things all require resources and my hope is that we take only enough and replenish where we can. My thoughts anyway.
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    Mar 17 2012: I thought that I would be teaching ESL by now in China or Ecuador but one surgery and 2 brraain bleeds as side effrects derrailed me.
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      Mar 24 2012: Oh Debra, I'm sorry for the bad news.No matter what you'll still have much love from all of us back here.I miss you and I'll pray for your health and happiness.Take care.
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    Mar 13 2012: Would be nice if life was like that. However, I'm one of the many people with a passion for something they'll never be good enough at to make it their living - that's being realistic, and if I wasn't realistic I would be putting myself in physical danger.

    There's also the question of whether earning a living through the activity I love would diminish it. Currently I know that as soon as I start to concentrate on it I have to focus completely, and that's one of the things I love about it. If I have a bad day, it distances me from that and I come away mentally refreshed. If it was my living I would be committed to doing it whether I felt like it or not, and it would no longer help me distance myself from problems. So I work at something else to finance it rather than pursue it wholeheartedly.
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    Mar 13 2012: Fear. Fear of not knowing where to start. Fear of not being able to succeed. Fear of failing and not learning. Fear of being too late. Fear of being too early. Yep, fear.
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    Mar 13 2012: When I think of passion I'm thinking of the artistic voice I want to fully express. It depends what passion means to certain people I guess. In regards to my own I think fear of letting go of my comfort zone in the art field. Fear of what would happen if I just completely let go and allowed my voice to shout rather than whisper..
  • Mar 13 2012: I am pursuing it. But I used to think I lacked support & money. I didn't and in fact i started after I lost a lot of both. They are smokescreens I think.
  • Mar 13 2012: Currently it's family obligations. I have elderly parents & In laws- aged 86,86 & 91 who require care. Thankfully it's split up amongst the different family members. but, when you're the "family nurse" you tend to take on more. I've been a Labor & Delivery Nurse for 30 years and helping people to become a family is one of my passions. THere is nothing better than seeing a new life begin. There are our darker moments too when you have to work to help a family having a miscarriage or a stillborn baby. But even in these situations you can make some good memories in the way that you show how you care & help familiesto progress through their sorrows. I greatly loved the work, but now i care for the folks, watch my son grow into manhood & am reinventing myself. In that reinventing of myself I also find myself "passing the torch" to my son & neices & nephews and am enjoying them finding themselves & their passions for life. Being an Auntie is great! I guess being a Grandmother some day will be pretty darn good too.