- Brant Scheifler
- Minneapolis, MN
- United States
Founder & Chief Encourager, Whiteboard Entrepreneur.com
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Does formal education play a significant role in the success of entrepreneurs and the outcomes of their business activities?
The foreground of such debate is perhaps seen in this debate: Are leaders born or made? With multiple TED (and Tedx) talks discussing entrepreneurship, I was curious what the community thought about the role that education plays in the success of the entrepreneur. (*please don't just say, it depends.)
Closing Statement from Brant Scheifler
Thanks all for your thoughts and comments. It's clear that most commentators don't view education as being vital to the success of the entrepreneur. In fact, many feel it can be a hindrance. With that said, many pointed out that education is what you make of it and that it can be utilized as a tool, even if that tool is context/perspective. Thanks again for sharing your thoughts!













russell slocum
DHARMESH SHAH
Divyam Shah
Steve Jobs-College dropout
Mukesh ambani
Bill gates-did not complete university
Dhirubhai Ambani-Newspaper seller
Azilmi Hakim 500+
Azilmi Hakim 500+
formal education that is applied in every country has the function and purpose of each, there is intended to create an entrepreneur, a leader, be a solution for the gover,emt system in the future, all have a very good goal, but it all again again in an environment where human beings are born, grow up educated and ready to become something, it all can not be separated from the role of education which he lived, I agree with what Mr. Robert Benjamin as a gang leader will not be effective when he became a leader in a company
so did his thing with the entrepreneur, when he became champion in the traditional market will not necessarily be the champion he is also in the stock market, all returned to the formal education he received and the environment in which he grew
Brant Scheifler
Robert Benjamin
Brant Scheifler
Robert Benjamin
I would like to assert that Entrepreneurship could be regarded as a complex competency. First, I think that a tacit (unseen) universe exists for complex competencies, i.e., entrepreneurship. Second, an appropriate de-abstraction methodology could visualize this tacit world, and construct competency in a coherent system. By implication, entrepreneurial knowledge could thus be retro-encoded and demystified for formal learning and scientific application. However, we need to become educated in the tools required to perform this function of our human IQ and prior education. Education should provide knowhow and skills.
I think, truly passionate individuals should choose to never allow structured learning to cease, even if such learning matures to an informal state – as a competency. At this level of self- actualization, it probably should be a constant choice yes. Learning evolves in iterative circles within knowledge lifecycles. It is a natural phenomenon, so we might as well embrace it in a structured (formal) manner. I think that entrepreneurs would be the first persons to accept such a paradigm in order to learn how to shift it for personal benefit.
Arvind Kuril
Michael Watson
Brant Scheifler
Michael Watson
Sam Tukuafu
When I left art school, I had these skills that lead me nowhere. I still painted and exhibited and my work is a growing sensation in the Pacific. I picked up on Sound, Film and Music Production through years of sitting at home, joining forums and watching You Tube and other internet tutorials.
I'm also a male model at Vanity Walk and I got some extra work for some television programmes and adds. I gained first hand insight of how they filmed.
With access to so much information, tutors and industrys here on the internet, I didn't need to waste more time and pay for further education. I just found what I wanted to do and studied it. Any equipment I needed, I built it or saved up and bought it.
I began to realise the rewards of being at art school, art school examined the importance of presentation. I apply the art school mode to any product, whether its a book, music video clip or art piece. I create and build a presentation (who or how will it be viewed, how is the writing complimenting the product), link up with charitys and organisations and pitch on how it fits the demand.
I hope this was relevant to the question. I am new to the site and this is my first post. Awesome to be on board.
adolfo soberanis
Brant Scheifler
Veronica Lugo
Brant Scheifler
adolfo soberanis
Also, these are quick, off the cuff responses and I am aware that the answers are barely outlined, but they do exist and I have seen, been involved with or created many solutions to the educational problems. One little classroom, even one little rural school, is hardly a force to change the educational landscape, but ripples do make waves when they touch the shore!
Brant Scheifler
adolfo soberanis
1. Teachers are not taught enough about human growth and development. I've been through the child development programs and the K-12 programs and found that they each lack what the other needs. All programs also need to focus more on child guidance and discipline. The issues are so sticky there that nobody wants to deal with it - yet that's where a lot of strong teachers are failing.
2. The power structure is backwards. Teachers have control of the classroom, right? But, don't we always say that ít's the "child's classroom", for the children? If we begin teaching children to run their own classrooms in pre-school then they will be able to run their own classrooms in later years and the teacher will take his/her rightful place as an instructor, a reference and resource gatherer and an elder wise to the culture. This is complicated, but possible and it works very well.
3. Age separation. What? That is so unnatural. Family units are made up of children of different ages. They learn with and from each other. We need to group children according to their interests, which means that the groups will change as their interests change with the natural progression of their development.
4. I'm running out of room. Suffice to say that there are many solutions. Reggio Emelia works. The Netherlands has a unique system that works for their culture. And... I've said enough!
adolfo soberanis
Brant Scheifler
Manish Kumar Aggarwal
As every asset of human kind plays a significance role so as formal education, but not a limitation if it is not.
Education and experience are the gears of a vehicle allowing the speed one by one. The education must be formal or not, doesn't carry much significance.
Entrepreneurship is a combination of taking responsibility, challenging risks, making meaningful life for others and self by his products, services and ideas. This is about involving people for reaching their goals by helping each other.
So education is important, formal or not - doesn't carry a big significance, but can be an advantage at the beginning.
santiago rodriguez
Leaders are born, because the pursue of the needed knowledge is embeded into the person in some kind of way. Some seek it, some do not.
Ufuk Tugrul
Brant Scheifler
Ufuk Tugrul
I study in Poland as you said most of studies aim to prepare students for companies. I hear so much time words which is starting like "for companies". However i wanna hear more entrepreneurship or our own business. But, still i am trying to go on my way and pursue my ideas eventhough i dont have much time after studies. Maybe i am moving with small steps but it is better to be waiting i think. i guess you pursued your ideas while you were studying, didnt you ?
Cheers!
Brant Scheifler
Thair AlAujan
Lisi Hoff
I respect your belief that such may be life for you!
Maybe semantics are a problem here. As I would say to a close friend: Listen to my words, do not assume that you know what I am thinking, really HEAR what I am saying. (In this case reading)
We have a consciousness do we not? Some people call it soul, some universal intelligence. Those are only labels of "what makes us tick" as individuals and do the labels really matter?
In short: This is what my life experience has taught me:
Thinking that I could be a good leader through hard work, education genetics and other people is, to me, like saying that I can learn to paint like Rembrandt or Picasso through hard work, education, genetics and other people.
Brant Scheifler
At any rate, I think both sides are valid. What I see in your last statement is there needs to be a gift present to start (Rembrandt), but then it needs further development and practice. I think we get it wrong when we think we can practice a gift into place that was never there to begin with, and also when we rest on a gift and never develop it to its fullest potential. Hopefully we can recognize our gifts AND develop them, as well as understand where we aren't gifted and invest our practice hours in better areas of life. That might be ideal, but that is the best of both sides of the debate in my opinion.
Lisi Hoff
So if I go from: We all have at least one inborn gift: In that case nurturing becomes the priority.
There are a lot of people in "leadership" roles. Maybe too many would have been better of doing something else.
We live in a world that today, imo, is full of mediocracy. Partly because the lack of nurturing, which most likely is a result of not taking into consideration that we all are gifted in some way.
The environment can only nurture, feed, starve or destroy "the gifts". The environment cannot produce the gift!
Then again do you need a gift to be an entrepreneur?? Only, imo if you are also going to be an inventor. And that was my earlier mistake: I made an incorrect assumption that an entrepreneur is also a creator. From reading the many replies, that is obviously Not the case. My apologies :)
peter lindsay 30+
Brant Scheifler
Alex Caton
I must say, though, highschool and a lot of undergraduate degrees are very constricting unless you're the type of person who CAN manipulate a learning environment to ensure you get what you need out of it. Forget grades, forget awards, and focus on soaking up information and experimenting with ideas as much as possible. The most common mistake people make with formal education is to assume that by doing a degree you'll be able to replicate academic success on an entrepreneurial scale, or that it will give you everything you need to succeed. Which is entirely not true. Formal education can give you the tools, the network and the information resources to develop a range of informed solutions backed up by research - but it's the foundations, not the house. To build a business you still need to get out into the market, make mistakes and learn from them.
I also think if you're going to use formal education to your advantage you can't stop with highschool or even an undergraduate degree. It's not until you hit the research stage that you have the freedom to use the resources available to academics to push boundaries and develop something new.
I think people have to be wary about relying entirely on formal education as a vehicle to success, but at the same time I think for some people it can be an extremely useful tool. It depends on the person, their ability to use formal education rather than rely on it, and an individual's natural ability to think independently.
Basically, I think leaders ARE born. But I think some leaders can make formal education work for them incredibly well and others will thrive much better without it.
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Brant Scheifler
Lisi Hoff
Mentorship has been a proven method of teaching. We even used to have apprenticeships.
I think that expertise in any field is often more a result of self-study than formal education which too often dogmatize studies, producing "experts" in extremely narrow fields who more often than not, submit to peer-pressure. Because of the limiting environment in many fields, many truly creative people/entrepreneurs may simply be bored; And/or know that "rocking the boat" will most likely harm their careers. They may also not be learning what they think or know they need to know and learn
We are not often rewarded for creative thinking and boredom is a powerful destroyer of loving to learn.
After all how much of the theories we studied in college do we still remember? And how much of what was "facts" then have changed. New theories, new "facts". Are people then not better off testing their skills and pushing their abilities on their own or hopefully with a mentor.?
Bryann, above, says it quite succinctly :)
In short my answer is Yes :)
steven clausnitzer
@Lisi, While I admire the list you put forth and don't for a minute argue that these people didn't succeed in spite of opposition I would also suggest that perhaps they succeeded *because* of opposition. Sometimes in life obstacles are what make us great, wouldn't you agree?
Can you imagine Abe Lincoln having the degree of empathy he had for the common man had he not been born a poor child of uneducated farmers? There is no doubt that genetics play a part in any persons path in life. Had Lincoln been born developmentally "challenged" there is no way he rises to the levels he did. But to suggest that he was "born" to be a leader is to suggest that Lincoln didn't take great pains to study (of his own accord) philosophy, history etc. What gave Lincoln, MLK, Newton the impetus to study and learn to the degree they did? I'd wager it wasn't genetics but other people. Undoubtedly, there were people in there lives that instilled in them a thirst for knowledge and awareness. This thirst is planted by other (previously) thirsty people. Are some "born" more thirsty than others? To a degree, perhaps but I really think it's the environment that makes the man.
Odundo Sidigu
I would argue that formal education is a barrier to an entrepreneur's success. To an entrepreneur formal education is likely just a backup plan. It is not a particularly wise backup plan as formal education takes so much time and money. Every moment spent working towards this backup plan gets in the way of the primary goal of running a business.
Many will argue that having degrees puts you in a better position to network and to be seen as professional. As for the second case, not having a degree does not carry as much stigma as it used to among entrepreneurs, particularly in Silicon Valley. Networking is one thing I would say formal education can assist an entrepreneur in. This has been shown by countless tech companies that emerged from college dorms. So college can be useful when it comes to starting a business.
The fact is formal education is not geared towards entrepreneurs, people who need a specific set of skills. Moreover, with the amount of free information online, college is due for a reappraisal. It may not even be worth tens of thousands of dollars a year.
The point I'd like to make is that in business there is an urgency to act as quickly as possible. Formal education can become a distraction and could leave a potential entrepreneur in debt and out of time. Focusing on one goal is more likely to lead to success.
Brant Scheifler
Also, I have to agree from personal experience that most college programs are not geared toward producing or equipping entrepreneurs, but geared toward producing corporate workers for large corporations. Disclosure: This was my personal experience and the same for other 'treps I know, perhaps not everyone's.
Bryann Alexandros
I'm gonna have to twist this a bit by saying yes, formal education can play a significant role for entrepreneurs because it shows them what's essential, and what is not, especially after the experience.
There's two sides to the irony. First, it's not uncommon to hear school veterans confess that B-school inhibited more than helped. There's a difference between studying lots of theory and actually executing an idea. I think you'll find a lot of this resonates for young tech startup founders who forego the formal stuff and go straight into an incubator or accelerator instead, preferring to work side-by-side with angels and other veteran entrepreneurs.
Second, entrepreneurs emerge a little more savvier in the types of people they choose and employ. Sometimes we need to assemble a small team with good chemistry to make ideas happen. Like Xavier's points below (above?), we would probably prefer someone with drive and some leadership qualities. Not a cog or a brown-noser.
Brant Scheifler