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Will same sex marriage damage the family?

Proponents of same sex marriage suggest it is an issue of equality - human rights - an end to discrimination.

Opponents object firstly on religious grounds, that it is unnatural. That it breaks tradition. Racism, sexism are often supported by religious views and tradition. Weak arguments in this case as well.

The argument that perhaps resonates most is that same sex marriage will damage the family unit, damage, children, damage society.

I propose gay marriage has no significant impact on heterosexual families. So this argument also fails.

Agree or disagree?


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Thanks All. I guess society hasn't collapsed with the introduction of civil unions or gay marriage in some states and countries. In fact there wasn't too much debate about the consequences.
Most objections related to changing the traditional definition of marriage. My understanding is some of these related to marriage having a spiritual or religious dimension. Some just think homosexuality is a defect, unnatural or worse. I expect these views are not limited to religious people.

I agree it is a change to the definition. Those for and against need a stronger argument than their personal or religious views. I respect that marriage is an important institution and should not be changed lightly. However, I still find the argument in terms of civil rights and ending discrimination based on sexual orientation compelling. Considering the arguments against I note none really presented a rationale that this change would be harmful in some tangible way.

I think we have a right to be free from the religious views of others and pursue happiness that does not harm others. I think we should end unjustified discrimination.

There was sense in some of the comments that SSM is going against some natural laws, will impact families or even threaten the continuation of the human race. I suggest that what same sex couple does not and will not impact heterosexual couples, and the the human race is in no danger of dropping population growth.

My own opinion is that some just oppose the normalisation and acceptance of homosexuality. Some religious folk expressed a respect for everyone regardless of sexual orientation. This gives me some hope.

This may not be the most important issue in the world right now, unless it directly affects you personally or a loved one. It just seems something relatively easy that will improve the situation for many ordinary people who love someone but are denied the right to marry.

Thanks all.

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  • Feb 29 2012: Marriage is a personal choice and an individual choice, one chooses to marry or not. When government allows groups of people to marry and forces others not to marry it is transgressing against those that do not have that privilege. That is if you assume we are all equal.

    And that is the point. People against gay marriage are discriminating against gays because they do not see gays as equal human beings. But apparently murderers, pedophiles and zoophiles are... go figure.

    Plain and simple.
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        • Mar 1 2012: marriage is about having children, offspring to continue humanity.
          One chooses to marry?? THaat's highly debatable.
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          Mar 2 2012: William, some marriages are, some marriages aren't about children.
          Opening marriage up to infertile couples or same sex is not going to impact those who have children or the future of the human race.
          Seriously - 1 Billion 1900, 7 Billion 2012
          Do you think SSM is a threat to human existence.
      • Mar 1 2012: Mr. Parker, not even sex is about having children anymore, at least not how most human beings practice it (pleasure), except maybe for the Duggars. Case in point, I was married for 5 years to Satan and we did not have children, thank you Jesus, but we did have sex. When I saw how much damage that agent of death was doing to my fragile mind, I decided to divorce her and became a sinner. Years later a met a different woman, an angel of love as I call her. We lived together for a while and one day she became pregnant, we were not married (oh no! how do you explain the children?) we had our baby, got married after the fact and now we are happily married with two beautiful children.

        Marriage is two human beings deciding to live together, period. The only reason why we put so much stupidity behind it is because there are legal implications and rights of people that are married to each other. Remove religion and discrimination and there is no issue.
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      Mar 1 2012: Unless there is some good reason to treat these people different it is simply unwarranted discrimination.
      Totally agree Luis.

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