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How can we create a situation, where more people or even everyone has access to basic goods?

How can we create a situation, where more people or even everyone has access to basic goods?

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    Feb 25 2012: log in to your internet bank, and transfer some money to poor people
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      Feb 25 2012: But then we would have to keep doing that until the end of time. There must be another way.
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        Mar 7 2012: later in the thread "GDP measures everything, except that which makes life worthwhile"

        in a state economy. in a free market economy, which the USA more or less had in the 19th century, and the beginning of the 20th century, GDP measures very well what worthwhile. not all of it, but large part of it. more precisely, GDP measures (in a free market economy!) all worthwhile things that are scarce but can be produced and exchanged.
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        Feb 26 2012: guess what, i was not serious. my goal was to point out that yet again, "we" look for solutions that involve someone else to do something.

        however. charity did and do have its role in fighting poverty. just ask any of the acumen fund's or kiva's partners. ask any child that got vaccination thanks to the gates foundation, or back in time, look the rockefeller foundation, the list is endless.

        correction: we don't have more poor than ever. we have much much less. the last century or two centuries were probably the most successful period of mankind. if we could continue that trend, there would be no poor at the end of this century.

        and that is why the last thing we need is any "adjustment" to the system that delivered such wonderful results. any attempt to "fix" the problems actually creating them. the series of "fixing" happened in the last century has gradually managed to stall economic progress in the west. and now these ideas seek their way to the east to wreak havoc there too.
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          Feb 26 2012: It looks to me Krisztián you live in another world than I do.
          How can that be?
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          Feb 26 2012: Hi, Frans !
          I think you nailed it : 'another world '.
          Different eyes see different frequencies. And differently interpret what they see.
          I observe it every day :)
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        Feb 26 2012: yeah, roy, it is kind of a good idea. if we disagree, we should not work it out, we should not discuss it, but just keep going. good strategy. i mean, who needs facts?
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        Feb 26 2012: roy, answer me a simple question. how do you got the idea that we have more poor than ever? did you read some article about a reliable scientific study? you have some statistics?

        let me guess: none of these. you just picked up some slogans uttered by politicians and/or activist groups. you chose a side. you have opinion without knowledge.

        it is not my job to change that, you are right about that. but i find it very dangerous. this attitude causes the very suffering we (allegedly) try to combat. and while there are some signs that knowledge do spread, i find it painfully slow, and the opposing view gains ground faster.
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          Feb 26 2012: Maybe Hungary is a different story but our world today has more hungry mouths than the total of the world population at the year 1800.

          Lots of studies have been done on the issue. Did you ever see one?
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        Feb 26 2012: really, frans? so what? the population has multiplied since then! the reasonable way to look at it is by percent. and the facts are: famines are mainly eliminated in india and in china. famines are eliminated in many african countries as well. child survival skyrockets. life expectancy too. many plagues are either shrank, or eliminated.

        you can continue to bury your head in the sand, but a TED member should know better. since Hans Rosling showed us how the world really looks like, there is no excuse. if you don't know, you either didn't listen, or you just push a propaganda.
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        Feb 26 2012: roy, "So you agree that there are more poor in number"

        actually, i don't know. i didn't look it up, since it does not matter.
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        Feb 26 2012: and you looked up how it was 200 years ago?

        this might help: 1800, USA, average GDP per capita, inflation adjusted: 2000 per year
        • Feb 29 2012: So nevermind the homeless people wandering around in USA then?
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          Mar 7 2012: Let's forget about GDP. Traffic jams may increase GDP as a result of the increased use of gasoline, but obviously not the quality of life and citizens' well-being. As Bobby Kennedy said, "GDP measures everything, except that which makes life worthwhile". Joseph E. Stiglitz

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