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Can we prove Aristotle’s “Prime Mover”:Everything that happens is caused by something else?Then what caused the first cause?
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The cause of the universe might be eternal, thus eliminating the need for a cause. As people have accepted the Big Bang Theory, so this objection has fallen out of favor.
It is worth pointing out that time is an aspect of the universe,without the universe, there is no time. It has existed at every point in time and that at no point in time has there been no universe.
1.Everything that exists or begins to exist has a cause?
2. Universe began to exist therefore it has a cause "the first cause" or was the matter already present that caused it?
4. If it was the first cause then what caused the first cause?
Closing Statement from Sunny Qureshi
The Debate was a mixture of philosophical and scientific arguments presented by members.
The question still remains unanswered as both schools of thought were inconclusive on the God or no God debate.
The problem is of the fact that both atheists and theists are both opposed to each others "belief". Even in science, hypothesisation which is a kind of belief that has not been proved exists.
This debate and other debates will remain inconclusive unless and until a Collaborative stance is not adopted by the two.
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Xavier Belvemont 30+
For example, In 450BC Greece we knew that:
-If we throw something upwards it comes back down
-Gas disperses
-Every fire requires an igniter
Therefore : Balls of gas in the sky that burns must require someone to light them and hold them up.
This is ofcourse nonsense because we know that the environment of space and the environment of Earth are entirely different and there are a number of other variables unaccounted for. This is much the same case with this question. (Eternal, first cause, infinite causality, uncaused cause, something else..)
It would be better for further information to present itself through further technological exploration, else we're just relying on philosophy which can't actually account for the real answer either.
'The cause of the universe might be eternal, thus eliminating the need for a cause. As people have accepted the Big Bang Theory, so this objection has fallen out of favor.'
Not necessarily. There are variation on the big bang and its introduction to existence. A number of multiverse theories both account for the big bang and a preexisting environment that may or may not be eternal.
Franciz Desouza
Astrophysicist Robert Jastrow, a self-described agnostic, stated, "The seed of everything that has happened in the Universe was planted in that first instant; every star, every planet and every living creature in the Universe came into being as a result of events that were set in motion in the moment of the cosmic explosion...The Universe flashed into being, and we cannot find out what caused that to happen."
Steven Weinberg, a Nobel laureate in Physics, said at the moment of this explosion, "the universe was about a hundred thousands million degrees Centigrade...and the universe was filled with light."
The universe has not always existed. It had a start...what caused that? Scientists have no explanation for the sudden explosion of light and matter.
References:
Robert Jastrow; "Message from Professor Robert Jastrow"; LeaderU.com; 2002.
Steven Weinberg; The First Three Minutes: A Modern View of the Origin of the Universe; (Basic Books,1988); p 5.
Sunny Qureshi
Franciz Desouza
Sunny Qureshi
My question: , Can we explore farther than what the divine books have told us, that is from mother nature, reproduction to the universe? Science ironically is proving what the religious books have revealed some 1800 years back?