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christov manuhutu

Student, Papua Inheritance Foundation

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What do you say about Free Energy proposals from Nikola Tesla?

Eric Giler successfully show to us the electricity transfer, but this idea was being around us for 100 years or so. Nikola Tesla was the one who propose this idea.

He also propose that the energy for electricity from earth could be harnessed about 100 years ago, climate change issue or energy shortage nowadays we faced could be solved.

I am curious to know what do you say about this?
And what can we do to it..?

As I am not an expert in this field, may your comments bright our sky in this issue(free energy). Waiting for your suggestion or action.

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  • Jan 22 2012: The fossil fuelled energy based monetary system will never allow for free energy, they just would not fund it's development and niether will any government involved in the borrowing of any monetary matters.

    You see we are all too dependent on fossil fuels, and therefore basing our monetary system incognito on fossil energy means it controls every aspects of our unsustainable high consumption first world standards of living, money controlled lives.
    In other words energy is a necessity for first world standard of living, the sale of fossil fuelled energy as a source creates the money for the system, using money as a control mechanism for the control of every system in society means it would be virtually impossible to develop a free energy system.

    Thats the real problem we have, a fossil fuelled based monetary creation system.
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      Jan 22 2012: Hi Byron, it looks like this kind of question has been asked somewhere in TED before under someone from India. Here is the riddle, as i try to search Tesla in the search bar, I couldn't find these kind of conversations that relates to Tesla or whatsoever.

      Only 2 search results for Ben Gulak and this MIT guy, Eric Giller. So the question is, do we really discuss something that ideas that worth spreading?
      • Jan 23 2012: Christov.. until we wake up and understand that energy is a root based necessity of life, that it's current source for enhancing our lifestyle is saleable and linked to a system of money creation, which is used as a means of control of the people, all the systems that are intergrated to enables governments to govern, the education systems, the media and the planetary resources subtly brainwashing people into beleiving that without money nothing is possible, and that an emission free energy source does not exist.... all controlled by the fossil fuelled monetary system.

        Of course it's worth spreading the truth but we have to wake up to whats going on.
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    Jan 22 2012: The sun provides the earth with enough energy to power the entire world several times over.
    Here is an example:

    Lets say that a low standard solar panel was 1x1m² and managed a typical output of 100watts
    and lets say we use the Saharan desert of Africa (just to make a point as the uninhabited wasteland of Africa doesn't have a consensus on its actual size).

    (Hope I have this correct)
    3,600,000 mi² (desert in miles squared) = 9,323,957,197,209.6 m² (meters squared) = 9 Trillion solar panels (approx)

    9,000,000,000,000 x 100 Wph (watts per hour) = Nine hundred trillion watts per hour x 6 hours of sunlight =
    5,400,000,000,000,000 watts of electricity per day =
    5,400,000,000,000 KW (kilowatts of electricity per day)
    and America uses 10,663,013,700 KW per day

    So to conclude, if you covered the uninhabitable saharan desert with low quality solar panels, you could power the whole of America and still have enough elecriticty left over to power the whole of Canada and approximately 2/5 of Europe, and thats if these were the ONLY solar panels on the planet aswell.
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      Jan 22 2012: Hi Xavier, great example for us to know the ability to have the electricity with solar energy.

      I agree with that also, but Tesla mention this 100 years ago :
      "Electric power is everywhere present in unlimited quantities and can drive the world's machinery without the need of coal, oil, gas, or any other of the common fuels."
      -- Nikola Tesla

      and this :
      "I can now state that I have succeeded in operating a motive device by means of [cosmic rays]. I will tell you in the most general way, the cosmic ray ionizes the air, setting free many charges -- ions and electrons. These charges are captured in a condenser which is made to discharge through the circuit of the motor."

      -- Nikola Tesla

      So what do you say about it...?
      • Jan 23 2012: History has several examples of technologies that were available and feasible but unattractive to policy-makers.

        If you invent gunpowder, the policy-makers of your country might regard it as a curiosity rather than a replacement for bows and arrows.

        If you invent an automatic horse-whipping machine (as was prototyped in ancient Rome) the policy-makers might regard it as a toy, not a replacement for a slave who can drive a cart.

        If you invent free energy, the policy-makers will probably do to you exactly what they did to Eugene Mallove.

        See also:
        http://thedailybell.com/3529/The-War-for-the-Internet-Has-Begun
        quote:
        Say, for instance, the elites wanted to promote global warming – in order to create a kind of "carbon currency" that they could control and trade at will. In order to do this, the elites would have to proclaim the threat, back it up with scientific studies and then legislate a response to the supposed threat.

        This is something that actually took place. The Anglosphere elites used their control of the scientific establishment to proclaim a phony hypothesis and then planted specially placed "scientists" at critical choke points to further control the dialogue.

        It turns out that it doesn't take very many people to control a given conversation or promote a certain campaign. In this case, by generating a cadre of global warming sycophants and putting them in charge of one of only a few "global warming" scientific journals, the elites could virtually create a scientific consensus where none existed.

        Once the elites had manufactured a phony global warming meme via "peer approved" articles in complaisant journals, the elite-controlled media was turned loose to trumpet the supposed findings. And once the articles were written, elite-controlled UN agencies created white papers from them that could be used as calls-for-action.
      • Jan 24 2012: Sorry Christov,

        When I think of Tesla, I think of a steampunk version of cold fusion.

        Thanks,
        Doug
    • Jan 24 2012: Hi Xavier

      "and thats if these were the ONLY solar panels on the planet aswell"

      I'm afraid that they would be the only solar panels on the planet for quite some time. This number (900 trillion) comes out to 1,000 panels for every man, woman, and child on the planet. That's a lot of panels!

      Thanks,
      Doug


      PS. I think that your numbers are great, but generation capacity is in plain old watts. A watt being a measure of how fast the electricy is flowing. When you generate at this rate for an hour, then you have a watt-hour, which is an amount of energy generated or consumed. Utilities (at least in the US) charge per kilowatt-hour, aka KwH.
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    Jan 22 2012: The ability to do work, aka energy, can never be free. It costs to harness and convert energy. Energy also can never be manufactured. It can only be converted from one natural form to another. Thanks for sharing your idea.
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      Jan 22 2012: Hi Edward, it is great to have you comment in here. It is true that we need the "start-up" costs to harness and convert it. And as you said it before, it can be converted.

      Do you know the reason why we don't have this kind of Tesla inventions for free energy..?
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        Jan 23 2012: Please, Mr. Manuhutu, stop saying "Free Energy". There is no such thing. There is, however, a way to convert any form of energy to another form. . . it is called money.
        • Jan 24 2012: Edward is right. Just because there are no fuel costs does not make the energy "free".

          Best wishes,
          Doug