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The intelligence of various collective consciousnesses is badly degraded by increases in the ease of widespread communications.

The easier it is to broadcast newa and opinions over the entirety of an organization, the more chaotic do responses to such informations become.

When communicqtions were limited to personal contacts and, at most, additional books, the role of elites in dominating national affairs was clear.
Then printing added influential newspapers/magazines, and the influential strata in societies enlarged.
Then telegraphs, telephones, radio, tv, etc. followed in a clear order, and at each enlargement of communication political and financial chaos increased fairly clearly.
We are presently buried in political chaos in the USA (or, for further examples, Iraq, or Afghanistan, say). Everywhere, the results promise to sadly compromise reasonable ideals for democracy.

  • Jan 23 2012: The volume of information has surpassed our current ability to judge the accuracy and biases of the source. This exponential growth will, in time, be solved in a unique and unexpected way, because that's how these things generally happen. It's difficult to predict or engineer or impose a solution. I suspect it will have to do with the way we define our internal filters so that we tend to block content with which we disagree rather than seeking the most objective source. There seems to be something innately tribal about us that would rather be wrong with a supportive group than right on our own.
    • Jan 23 2012: David, I am more pessimistic than you. I feel that the problem has been getting more overwhelming for two centuries, just about, and has passed a point of possible solvability.
      We are an irremediably collective species, indeed, and the hash of our hostile interactivities has overwhelmed the ability of highly intelligent leaders to have decisive inlfuences on the collective future.
      On the other hand, charismatics who can impose paranoid opinions on their collectives have been getting more and more dangerous. Wrong, with a supportive group indeed, and in deed.
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    Jan 22 2012: I would love to hear your solutions to this problem. Please post some at


    • Jan 23 2012: I think it is critically urgent to start establishing sanctuaries analogous to the International seed bank at Svalbard. But I want these sanctuaries to be capable of sustaining small, essentially independent groups, and as complete libraries of biogenes, both plants and animals, as possible; also, hothouses of food plants and livestocks, and essential power and production facilities to sustain their wholes for up to centuries, if the oppressive climate requires.

      I advocate these all be democracies, as well as their cooperative overall organization.
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        Jan 24 2012: I urgently agree! It has long been on my list of causes to promote and the fact that only Norway has stepped up to actually do this is appalling. I hope deeply that more countries and indeed the international community becomes deeply engaged in this effort. All it will take is one decent meteorite to wipe out a given crop plant or other vital (to human life) plant life form on earth.

        I have posted this idea here: please consider contributing to this project directly.

  • Jan 13 2012: Yes, it certainly does seem you are right! We are wise to be as discerning as we are able for everything, as the pace of change is way to fast for most people.

    Would you care to summarize your ideals for democracy?
    • Jan 13 2012: Mark,the answer has been bruited widely, since the founding of our Republic. It is Education:for understanding, ethics, morality, all those huge tools for humane living. An extreme example would be Abraham Lincoln, whose basic entrance to a lifetime of accomplishment was his self-study, before the fire in his youthful home. That's to say, I am not prescribing any given form, or style, or creed of education, what I want is those particular kinds of results.