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How do we get corporations out of government.

Large corperations run our government, thay donate huge amounts of money for which they are rewarded. The government no longer represents the people but rather the corporations. We are supposed to be a representitive republic but our needs are not being represented, the corporations are. This is why I'm in the occupy movement, to try and return to our constitution and excercise my rights. We want the government to represent us and not the corporations, they are not people. Everyone thinks we are there to get money from the 1%, while this may be true for many what I have just written is true for me and most in the movement.

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    Jan 25 2012: Thor I understand your point and agree that the true cost of corporate "profits" are not calculated and this would suggest another (and not at all contradictory) course of action to improve the situation by ensuring we are doing a "real cost" calculation and collecting it in the form of taxes somewhere (as a user fee for the planet, the people and the resources if nothing else). I have to disagree that the profit motive should remain unchallenged as the basis of corporations. If you redefine profit in the way you suggest (and I agree with) you are in fact including the ideal of responsibility in the idea of profit. I would simply put it to you that adding something along the lines of "it is every for-profit corporations right to pursue a profit in on behalf of the company shareholders and their responsibility to pursue this profit in a way that profits society as a whole. In other words the right of profit for some is balanced with the responsibility of providing a net benefit to all.

    I would agree the public needs to take on more responsibility (at the level of universal human rights and responsibilities, see here:http://www.wesolver.org/wiki/Universal_rights_and_responsibilities) but the corporation should also be defined not as an individual person but as a collection of individuals who are all sharing the equal rights and responsibilities of any single one of them. In other words a corporation is "a collection of people" their collective rights should not exceed that of any individual and their collective responsibility is assumed by each of them personally (as individuals). Holding people (under a corporate alias) accountable in this way I think accomplishes what both of us are interested in without conflict.

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