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Are NDEs real/ believable? Do you believe them? And why?
Near Death Experiences are fascinating to humans, we've always asked what happens after we die. One of my favorite accounts is mentioned in The Holographic Universe by Michael Talbot. Do you believe NDEs? What are your theories on what happens in the afterlife?
Megan DaGata
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Frans Kellner 100+
Seeing is believing and if you think you see with your eyes, think again.
Orlando Hawkins 20+
There is a difference between being dead and nearly dead.
Near death experiences are just experiences but they are profound because they may give us some insight into the nature of death.
If you ask me I think near death experiences are the closest we'll ever get to the real thing (of course I could be wrong)...
Here is how I see it: If we have a near death experience then we did not really die....but if we are dead (and I really mean dead) and we are still having experiences then that is a lot different than have a NDE and to be quite honest I have not heard of an individual who was really dead, had experiences and lived to tell the tale.
Colleen Steen 500+
You say you "have not heard of an individual who was really dead...and lived to tell the tale".
You might want to research that a little bit. There are hundreds...maybe thousands... of documented cases where people were clinically dead and "lived to tell the tale". Have fun exploring:>)
Ousmane Camara
I would say without a doubt Yes! It can only be that way, otherwise how could I be here? Life comes from a place that we still need to discover. We know all the steps of procreation, growth and death. But the mystery of life itself is a school of itself for eternity. To simplify it, we leave the answer to God for those who believe in Him.
My theory is that there can only be a life after death since it's been a life or existence before we are born Here.
I have had a near death experience that have change 180° my conception of self.
it was in 2000, on a sunday evening. I was sleeping when my bedroom door was slammed opened; an individual entered with a machete in hand, standing above me he yelled "where is the money?" . As I answered "what money?" he dropped on me the first hit... to spare you the details of this traumatic story, they left me for dead a few minutes later. As I was laying on the floor, I could see the other two guys parking their car in the right position to collect all the stuff they could carry out, elctronics gadgets, a few cloths, my jewels and watches, just anything valuable they could carry.
After they departed, I can still see myself getting up, running outside about 700 meters to the main avenue in order to get a taxi to the emergency. I still have this souvenir of my neighbors in the street I lived standing at their balcony and watching helpless the scene of the agression. i even have in mind some of the hints of the comments they were making. i have the souvenir of my sister fainting the next morning by the view of the blood that run from the bedroom to the kitchen after crossing the livingroom. That happen as I was in a coma at the hospital the next day. As I repeated that scene to my family with the details, they swore someone might have told me. So I believe today:" WE ARE MORE THAN THIS HUMAN BODY"
Colleen Steen 500+
I read your story yesterday, and it has been in my heart and mind ever since. I woke up in the night, as I lay in my comfortable, warm bed, and thought about your experience. This morning, I notice that you have made several contributions to the comment topic "What do you have to be grateful for today". You were tortured and left for dead. You not only survived, but you are here on this earth to teach something very valuable, which I'm sure you are doing in every moment of your life. I agree that our conception of self changes a lot when we face death.
One thing I've been pondering since reading your story, is that I cannot even imagine how it feels to be near death because of the actions of our fellow human beings. I cannot imagine how anyone can do that to another human being. The abuser must totally block any feelings of compassion, empathy, and s/he has totally disconnected from other people.
My near death experience happened because of a horseback riding accident, I was knocked unconscious recieved medical assistance almost immediately, and had no pain until regaining consciousness two weeks later. I feel very lucky when I think about, and feel the circumstances of your experience. It feels like you have a heart as big as the sun, and it brings us just as much energy:>)
Frans Kellner 100+
I know you know already Colleen but anyway.
A person without feelings becomes like a robot that is capable of doing anything intelligent that serves self preservation without any consideration.
Colleen Steen 500+
This is one piece that makes Ousmane's story so precious. He was wounded badly, at the hands of human beings, and yet he lives a life of gratitude, acceptance and love:>) Hope you don't mind that we're talking about you Ousmane:>)
Ousmane Camara
thanx again for sharing. It has been hard, but it's as well usefull. I have come to the belief that every little thing happenning to us is to give us a lesson and help us straighten our path.
I am just as happy to have discover TED. I was zapping my TV when I heard a little comment on a multimillionaire who's baught km squares of the brasilian rain forrest as his contribution for saving the planet... then the documentary went on to state the case of TED and the activities that were being implemented there. It was very fascinating and today I feel heard. I can not just describe the feeling inside me... I now have more strength to continue a job that I once felt alone doing. Now I know people thinking and working desinterestedly in try in their way to make the world a better place.
NED Experience has a lot to do with the connection, but what good we have ourselves revealed is something that has always been there. it's like some of us need electroshocks to wake up and that's what happenned; after your life is not the same anymore.
Today I am still working at the same rythm as before, but I am feeling less tired. I have less stress as I have completely detached from many wants that were not necessary in my life. Skying toward helping other is the best sport I have ever played... thanx to my NED.
Colleen Steen 500+
I am happy you discovered TED too, and I agree that every little thing happening to us is an opportunity to learn.
I also experienced a sense of freedom when I started speaking about the NDE years ago. It is always WONDERFUL to discover and interact with like-minded people:>)
Detachment is one thing that was reinforced with the NDE. The energy that is "me"' was detached from the body. I love the way Frans described it...as air in a jar with the top on, and taking the top off, the air flows into all the other air. When the energy was free from the body, it felt like the body was a vehicle that carried the energy through the human experience.
Frans Kellner 100+
For the true skeptics it won't make any difference but to others it can be confirming to the possibility of out of body experiences. Some that lack the courage to tell their own stories out of fear of being condemned ridiculous may be encouraged by it.
The body is an enclosure for consciousness like you can enclose some air in a jar. If the jar is opened it's not separated anymore.
Colleen Steen 500+
Ousmane Camara
Colleen Steen 500+
I'm wondering if you have explored NDE on line? You can google Near Death Experience Research. There are thousands of stories about NDE/OBEs, along with information about research they are doing on the topic.
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Ousmane Camara
next thing, there were packing up things from my bedroom. disconnected the little tv, vcr, hi-fi. they grabbed a couple of necklaces on the top of the bed, my watches box and my car keys. then they got my wallet and any little thing possible to grab.
After sometime, mid conscious I just got up (how? I don't know) headed outside and run to the main road and stop a first taxi, but the driver panicked and drove away. a second one hesitated but stopped and carried me to hospital. Only a couple hours later, one of my neighbor called the police.
A few days, after I was out, the police called for to come and identify some people they have arrested, but I did not see the need to go. they've been arrested for another attack, and one of them admitted my agression. At the time, I was still trying to have some sleep with little results, so I had other preoccupations
Ousmane Camara
Today, it seems to me as someone else's story. I have no more pain, on the contrary , this experience open my eyes on a new world that nothing on earth can break.
Megan DaGata
Ayesha Sayed 500+
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Ayesha Sayed 500+
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Colleen Steen 500+
My experience shows me that we are energy beings. Did you see the TED talk...Jill Bolte Taylor- stroke of insight?
The energy that powers the body (call it soul, spirit, etc.) moves on when the body dies.
Ayesha Sayed 500+
What else did your experience teach you, if you don't mind me asking?
I'll watch the talk!
Thank you.
Colleen Steen 500+
Experiencing an OBE/NDE certainly made a difference to me! I probably would not have believed it prior to my experience, because it was not something that "fit" in my belief system at that time. I did quite a bit of research and exploration, before agreeing to guest lecture at the university, which I did for about 6 years.
I don't mind you asking questions at all. Most of the information I present here on TED was taught to me by my mother, and reinforced with the NDE. The life I was living before the NDE did not change, but rather intensified.
One piece of the puzzle that I learned to accept with the NDE is reincarnation, which was not part of my belief system prior to the NDE. I had reviews of this life, as well as other lives. With the reviews of lives, including this one, I learned that healing and health is a thread that runs through several of my different lives.
Ayesha Sayed 500+
And would you say you can see the WHOLE picture now?
I am so grateful that I'm having this conversation! Thank you.
Colleen Steen 500+
Was it difficult to accept something that wasn't part of my belief system?
Not too difficult. Prior to the head/brain injury, I had several life challenges, and I believe that life is about learning. When I sustained the head injury and experienced the NDE, I accepted it as another life challenge and opportunity from which I would learn. I also knew that I had to do my "homework" and did not accept the experience simply at face value. In addition to the NDE, being totally disabled (which was the prognonis) was not part of my belief system either, so there were MANY adjustments to be made in the body, heart and mind, along with a LOT of education:>)
How can we experience certainty...?
I believe that with our exploration of the human experience, we have the opportunity and ability to assimilate information, sift through all information that is available to us, learn about our "self" and others, and know our truth at any given time. Knowledge is power. We have the opportunity to have knowledge, and that is a very powerful factor in "knowing" our "self". We can listen to the logical mind, and listen to the intuitive heart for guidence. That is how we find our truth, and our "certainty", in my perception.
Can I see the "whole picture" now?
No. If I could see the whole picture, I would no longer be in human form. The human body cannot accomodate the energy vibration which is needed to percieve the whole picture. When the energy that powers my body was moving from one form to another (OBE/NDE), I could see a much bigger picture, and I'm not really sure if I saw the "whole" or not.
My pleasure...glad to participate:>)
Tim blackburn 30+
Further speculation of my interest in this area could be found in the movie/book DMT: the spirit molecule.
Ayesha Sayed 500+
Neel Prabhu