Bruce Pollock

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Why does it seem that there is no integrity or morality in the political machine?

It seems all you ever hear from the political front in all countries is the partisanship and self serving rhetoric from the political pundits. Corruption seems to be part of the political picture, and respect, decorum, good manners and taking the position to do what is right do not seem to enter into the politicians mindset.

I concede that there are honest politicians but they appear to be in a minority. It is very disheartening to see the waste and deceit in governments and the real needs of the people being ignored by the self righteous few.

  • Dec 20 2011: Anyway,as I see,most politicians are just arguing and seeking for their own goodness.
  • Dec 21 2011: I agree with you, Bruce. Now and in the past it has always been the well-funded who have controlled government and politics whether or not they paid lip service to making government and politics be of, by and for "the people." And they designed and continue to make all political and governmental systems in ways that operate to their own advantage, while minimizing the power and control of the vast majority of citizens. That's why the OCCUPY/99% movement exists and is so important. May it succeed quickly.
  • Dec 20 2011: Because there isn't.
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      Dec 21 2011: Why not? I find it hard to believe that there are no good politicians but it seems the machine has a way of grinding them up and spitting them out as self centred, partisan, greedy little people who seek to satisfy the needs of their party and themselves.
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    Dec 22 2011: Anarchies promise unlimited, absolute freedom; the reality is that without government there is no framework of regulations or principles within which individuals can cooperate for mutual benefit; unlimited freedom results in chaos.
    Monarchies promise stability and unity under the rule of a single regent; the reality is that human regents, of limited knowledge, hampered by human imperfections and frailties, perhaps even moved by wrong motives, are themselves mortal; any stability and unity are therefore short-lived.
    Aristocracies promise to provide the best in rulers; the reality is that they rule because they have wealth, a certain blood descent, or power, not necessarily because they have wisdom, insight, or love and concern for others; the inadequate ruler of a monarchy is simply replaced by the multiple rulers of an elite aristocracy.
    Democracies promise that all the people may decide for the benefit of all; the reality is that citizens lack both the knowledge and the pure motives necessary to make consistently right decisions for the common good; democracy was described by Plato as “a charming form of government, full of variety and disorder, and dispensing a sort of equality to equals and unequals alike.
    Communist governments promise to create a Utopian, classless society with citizens enjoying complete equality before the law; the reality is that classes and inequalities still exist and that corrupt politicians fleece the common man; the result has been widespread rejection of the communist concept, with its strongholds threatened with breakup by nationalistic and separatist movements
    "It does not belong to man who is walking to direct his steps"..We need a higher form of government.
    Mene and Tekel
  • Dec 21 2011: Hi Bruce
    I couldn't have said it any better than you just did.
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    Dec 21 2011: Interesting comments, however we fail to address the real issue of the moral bankruptcy of the worlds political machine. Governments lavishly throw our tax dollars at the wealthy, the banks, the privileged, themselves. Billions are spent on war, however their own citizens suffer, rather than fixing whats broken at home politicians find causes to champion that deflect the public's attention away from the crumbling infrastructure. Great civilizations have followed this path in the past and have failed, I do hope we are not being lead down the same dark path.
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    Dec 21 2011: There is no integrity or morality left in the world. The politicians sold our children into debt slavery, and erased freedom of speech... but still we don't take to the streets...

    The horror... The horror.
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    Dec 20 2011: Tony Kushner on politics: "This is gastric juices churning. This is enzymes and acids, this is intestinal is what this is, bowel movement and blood-red meat-- this stinks, this is politics, the game of being alive."
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    Dec 20 2011: If this is the case, it is due in part to a lack of the same, in part, of the population.
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      Dec 21 2011: I think only if they have the disease, many are fine without and many are fine with much, but if they suffer the disease to possess then they must satisfy their needs with total disregard for the well-being of others.
  • Dec 20 2011: Seem? Perhaps, if an equal number of males and females sit together and design a political system, it will work in the positive ways we idealists believe political systems are supposed to work. If you think about it, most political systems were designed to protect the material interests of the wealthy, e.g., real estate laws. Much of the US system of law is based upon the British system which was designed to maximize the power and control of the monarchy. There is much hypocrisy in politics. There is a myth that lawyers represent the interests of their clients first, but realistically, I suspect that normal human beings represent their own interests first. In order to inject truth, integrity, morality into politics, we must totally redesign the political system with openness, honesty and balance between the points of view of females and males. Nothing to fear. Truth, justice and universal happiness will result. Let's do it......NOW.
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    Dec 20 2011: Could it be that integrity and morality become lunch and supper to satisfy the hunger of the gluttonous greedy? Just a thought.
    • Dec 20 2011: Tim, I think the "gluttonous greedy" are fear-filled people. I wonder how we can dissolve their fears.
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        Dec 20 2011: My elders explained it to me as a "disease to possess", It follows any civilised people who fall under the manipulations of currency, or a monetary exchange system. And, I agree with your insight, it is fear based. Thanks for being here, Rhona.
        • Dec 20 2011: Right back atcha, Tim. We are being successful right now at elevating the joy level of at least one contemporary human being. We are sooooooooo powerful and positive! Yippeeee for us! is starting to feel like home for me.
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        Dec 21 2011: Perhaps we need to transform the political machine from one of the elite to one of the ordinary person. Politics has become big business, if you don't have the deep pockets of the chosen few, you stand no chance of succeeding in the political arena, no matter what the Hollywood machine would have us believe.