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The women's revolution is the last revolution that the world will ever need. Male/Female equality is essential to human happiness.

When men and women acknowledge and experience their equality, there will be happiness, health, peace and all other good things throughout the parts or totality of the world that does this. Then all females and males can relax and simply enjoy life as we were obviously meant to do. The current inequality experienced in nearly all societies today is the basis of the turmoil and suffering of humankind.

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      Dec 25 2011: If one is offended, it can only be personally offended. Gender bigotry and racism offends me, BUT do not flatter yourself that I apply any value judgement you might arrive at through your bigotry against women, to myself, and are therefore offended on that level. You do not know me, and if you did, I am sure you would not have the gall to spout your poison directly to me in a face to face conversation.

      You will not apologise, so as far as I am concerned, I do not wish to engage with you further, on this or any other thread.
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          Dec 26 2011: Is this what I miss by not having THC receptors?
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    • Dec 26 2011: Tony, I can tell that you really want to understand why the women's revolution is the last revolution that the world will ever need. I have an idea which you may want to try that will accelerate your understanding of this. For one week you take and live on the exact salary that you pay the crippled lady who works for you. For that same week pay that crippled lady the salary that you take for yourself. During that one single week of your life your understanding of this issue will probably soar and you will then be wise enough to acknowledge your equality, apologize for the insulting remarks you have made to women and to cultures other than your own and you will enthusiastically join this final revolution as an ardent activist. This will make you one of the revolutionary heroes that causes the emancipation of all men and all women to simply relax and enjoy each other and life. This does seem worth a one-week experiment, I believe.
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        • Dec 27 2011: Tony, you seem to have missed my suggestion that for ONE WEEK you accept and live off of the exact amount of money that you now pay to the crippled lady and that for ONE WEEK you pay the crippled lady the exact amount of money you take for yourself. I believe that, in doing this, you will develop a sensitivity to one of the key issues related to this final human revolution that will result in the health, prosperity and happiness of all men and all women. In our societies money is a key form of power. Right? Let's make sure that women and men have equal power and control over their own lives. Keeping women down, keeps societies and economies down. Consider the status of women in Egypt and the status of women in Denmark. You see clearly where there is better health, wealth, progress, education and general human well-being and happiness. Any society that wants to be successful must acknowledge and implement equality between females and males. I wonder if you have the openness, wisdom and courage to try my suggestion for that ONE WEEK experiment. Try it. See how it feels. Take action. Join the final revolution that causes true human justice, prosperity, health and happiness for all people.
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      Dec 26 2011: Even if you were right on these accounts, tony, the Sentence would still also read:

      "Everyone is a genious, but if you would judge the average man in his ability to perform high-agility gimnastics, to connect emotionally to himself and to other people, in his supporting and nurturing skills and his theory of mind - he might end up looking down upon women because he isn't man (or woman for that matter) enough to admit there is alway a side of the story in wich he is the cripple, the looser, the "subhuman" ".

      We're still talking about the same average man in a race car who is proud that he can drive faster then any Plane before takeoff, just inocently forgetting his insignificant incapability to fly.

      People are people, this is not a gender issue. It is about every human being having strengths and weaknesses which society should learn to appreciate and enforce for the good of the appreciated person and for the good of us as his neighbours. We need a society that can transform ability into values, into movement. Generally.
      If we formulate it like this it doesn't put up men against women. This isn't about vendetta for the stupidity of millenia of patriarchy. Who would insure that an equal society on the male-female axis wouldn't surpress more efficiently with a more stable group a part of the population with other talents? We need the energy of the feminism, and the rage that it evokes in patriarchal types, and we need to put it to good use for us all. So be glad about every Tony and every Rhona, Gisela and Joanne. Use that energy for transformation and keep this dialogue for whatever good it brings. Thanks.
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        Dec 27 2011: Love the spirit of your reply Mihai, but I am not sure the women who have to work under the Tony's of this world would agree. All the best.
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          Dec 27 2011: Thank you, Joanne. I'm not sure - or "sure not" - either. But if you ask someone with III degree burns what to do he might scream "kill me"! Sometimes the long term solutions may have to come from people who are neither emotionaly involved nor indifferent. Machiavelli once said: you have to go out of the city and on to the neighbouring mountain to see and understand some of the city.
          It might in the end be the difference between a long-term solution and a patch destined to avoid a long term solution. Allthough I may be wrong and it might be a rationalisation to avoid a small solution where the big one is to hard to do.
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          Dec 27 2011: Would you agree that there are men not suited for diving in the conditions you describe?

          Do you understand that even within one sex there is a range of ability and capacity that overlaps the range of the other sex?

          Can you not even conceive that there may be a woman who is indeed suited to working in that environment? (Though that is no guarantee that she would have the interest.)


          What men like you fail to realize is that the secondary outcome of defining jobs as male and female is that it denigrates men who are either not interested in or not able to perform those tasks labelled "masculine".

          What if all people took away from this discussion was that you aren't "a real man" because you can't reason logically?
      • Dec 27 2011: I am glad that Tony is expressing his true thoughts and feelings even though I do not agree with them. I respect him for participating in this important discussion. The fact that he is listening and thinking and expressing himself is useful to our obtaining progress and ultimate success in accomplishing this positive goal of ours.

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