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The women's revolution is the last revolution that the world will ever need. Male/Female equality is essential to human happiness.

When men and women acknowledge and experience their equality, there will be happiness, health, peace and all other good things throughout the parts or totality of the world that does this. Then all females and males can relax and simply enjoy life as we were obviously meant to do. The current inequality experienced in nearly all societies today is the basis of the turmoil and suffering of humankind.

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      Joanne Donovan 30+

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      Dec 25 2011: 'Equal' and 'different' are not the same thing. Equal is an ideal, different is a fact, you confuse the two because it is convenient for you, because you suffer from a moral deficiency and have no desire, as far as I can see to change it.

      NONE of your high moral values count, none of them count at all, until you can see this, and are willing to change it.
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        Mihai Popeti

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        Dec 25 2011: I really think that you guys get hung up on semantic questions rather than intrinsic ones. But it reveals how much energy is involved in these issues.
        If you say that equal is the ideal where difference is a fact you can be sure that his psyche will interpret this as: you want to make us all the same. To be more precise: you want to erase me as a unique being.
        I also think tony is biased. But I think he is biased by a general thing: "I want that my strengths and/or the strengths of the group I'm identifying with to compose the criteria for judging general worth". This brings a double psychological comfort: it makes me one of the best (because noone can beat me at a quizz I designed) and it assures that the same doesn't happen to me, that I am not judged and valued by other people's subjctive and arbitrary criteria.
        The problem with that bias is more subtle an more severe than the patriarchal/male chauvinist one: We all have it. We. All. Me, Tony, every female manager who looks down on a housewife, everyone who feels better about themselves about being "right" where others "just don't get it", so I guess: sometimes you too.
        To the point of the topic: the women's revolution done in that spirit will free us from this prison just to get us in the next larger prison. Which would be fine for sure, but leaves me wanting.
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          Joanne Donovan 30+

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          Dec 25 2011: Mihai; Your comment is very sensitive and I admire your compassion for Tony. You open an interesting perspective when you pointed this out; 'If you say that equal is the ideal where difference is a fact you can be sure that his psyche will interpret this as: you want to make us all the same. To be more precise: you want to erase me as a unique being.' I think you highlight the attitude of fear that lies around this issue. That is not a reason to avoid seeking change though, is it.

          I disagree with this; 'To the point of the topic: the women's revolution done in that spirit will free us from this prison just to get us in the next larger prison.' I think perhaps you are assuming that 'equality' means reversing the current situation, except placing women in the dominant role. This is not my vision of equality.

          If one looks at societies where the power structures are not one sided toward one sex, but are shared, where ownership and control of resources are also shared or communal, we see some interesting characteristics. People are not in conflict with each other. Crime, especially crimes against women and children are virtually non existent. People seem happier too. We could use Nepal and Ladakh, (traditional society) and some Pacific Island nations too, as evidence of this.

          Equality between the sexes or otherwise, means to remove destructive power monopolies from one group, not to simply turn them over to another. When social systems are designed to benefit people more equally, everyone is happier and more fulfilled. I believe that is Rhona's point. Can't see anything wrong with that idea, can you?

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      Dec 25 2011: I agree with Joanne that you need to look up in a dictionary the definitions of the words "equality" and "same." I also agree that you need to acknowledge your prejudices and apologize for your numerous insults to women and to other groups of people who have had positive impacts on humanity that you have insulted. Power to the positive.

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