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Nicholas Lukowiak

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Cognitive Science Month!

I feel there is not enough awareness around cog sci in academics.

One of the biggest job markets for psychology majors today is business marketing, advertising, and public relations.

Entertainment is ran by liberal arts and sold by scientific analysis. This is the very real situation of today's global marketing. Knowing what sells takes knowing how the human mind gets attracted.

To me, in my opinion this is troublesome. Consider all the subliminal messaging that our kids are subjected to consistently during their everyday lives. The ads, the commercials, the bill boards, etc etc with people designing them, that know more about what you find appealing than you do.

So, Cog Sci Mon! should be about sharing your knowledge of the human mind.

A key note to make about the term "Cognitive science" is that there is not ONE cog sci. There are cognitive sciences that tend to take two or more major fiends of study and combine precision sciences to establish facts.

"Philosophy of cognitive science" is a major part of a large number of subsets. Neuroethics is a developing field of law and has a lot practical usage in education. Perhaps a continued combination of law and cog sci would prove dominating in future job markets.

I just see cognitive science usage in everything in the future. I mean even religions and education systems. How we are going to teach kids at max capacity is psychologically orientated. Which is BLOWING up because of the cognitive science(s) advancements!

We need awareness of these fields of study!

I know a lot of TEDsters have cog sci in their profiles as interest. This topic is only going to reappear over and over again, but it may not be on the main stream, it may just be in the science communities. Which is not right.

Post; videos, articles, comments and concerns.
Or start another more specific conversation related to the cognitive sciences.

A lot can be learned and a lot can be said, the point is to share.

"Mimesis" is a favorite.

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  • Nov 18 2011: I stumbled on this conversation and read through the cog sci on Buddhism. What do either of you know about the neuroscience of the so called "god center". I had read a bit on it a few years ago and seem unable to find further exploration of the subject. If this center (and Buddhism) relies upon a correct reading of the benefits associated with the stimulation of the god center, and its concurrent positive effects on mood, then shouldn't we be searching for a means of grasping this without the deleterious side effects of the social insitution known as religion?
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      Nov 18 2011: There is a researcher at the University of Waterloo in Canada (I think) - who has done extensive work on this area of the brain if we are thinking about the same thing. He rigged up a helmet that stimulated this center and also recorded the brain activity in meditating or praying Catholic nuns, Budhist monks and nonspiritually inclined individuals. I cannot remember his name but I will see if I can find something for you. Please let me know though, if I am on the track you are asking about. I do not want to run off in some wrong direction.
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      Nov 18 2011: Sharon I was mistaken the researcher is actually at Laurentian in northern Ontario. His name is Dr. Michael Persinger. You can learn more about his work here:

      http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Michael_Persinger

      Here is a short video which documents experiences achieved with the stimulation of the limbic system and the temporal lobes. This effect is called the God Effect and he uses a helmet to administer the stimulus. Take a look at the experience here:

      http://youtu.be/8YPOTaUyvA0

      Was this what you were referring to?
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      Nov 19 2011: Religion is the process of communities of people gathering under a common system of beliefs.

      Buddhism keeps the creator question open in their religion. This seems wise, no? Because even if there is a God, s/he/it has no direct physical affect/effect on us, that is obvious by a matter of science, but no science can disprove the existence of a God as gnosticism proposes. By no means is Buddhism like any Abraham religion, this is the common flaw of the western atheist, especially the neo-atheist. Also all the three of those religions, foundational (at the core) are naturalistic, over the course of time (Romans, Catholic Church) they became extremely fundamental.

      Historically there are far more natural religions with fewer certainties than that of the modern Abrahamics.

      Kabbalah, for example, the foundation of Judaism. Had the consideration, God is in the brain and is the left or right side in a sense. That we have the inner knowledge of being what Buddhism would considered "enlightened."

      http://www.logoi.com/pastimages/img/god_4.jpg Michelangelo's painting... Curiously looks like a brain... All over the Sistine Chapel has angels and men forming Kabbalah symbols with their bodies.. The want for naturalism is not a new idea, nor is the idea our minds have more to them than we can know without premeditation.

      Religion will always be here, it is part of nature we humans need to gather to be humane and grow together.
      Religion is just a word, we may not use that word anymore one day but it will still be the same principles.
      Religion is here to stay, I would recommend learning a little about them all, instead of throwing them in a pile together.

      Humans naturally have metaphysical longings - emotions - mindsets, which we interpret as spirituality.

      This is what cognitive science has taught me along with my studies of humanities, religion and anthropology. Cog sci needs to be illuminated more to help enlighten the world.

      Sorry to digress. Thanks for the comment!
  • Nov 20 2011: The striiving point would be to be able to acheive the mental state that people crave: the sense of oneness with the universe, a sense of connection to something greater than themselves. But, it would be best to acheive all of that without the trappings of religion. But, since one of the things people love about religion is the comunity I don't think the neuro science can give them that.
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      Nov 21 2011: Absolutely it can.

      But what if a drug was developed to achieve this emotional recognized state of mind - your striving points. Would that be ethical to do without the meditation, citical thinking, artisitic mindset, that is involved in achieving this mental state. Would that be acceptable to consume if it was available? I believe that this information is relative to achieving such a goal.

      Why do you need all the thinking if you can just be satisfied with everything with a pill? This is a very real concern for the future. So I appreciate the topic bring up.:-)

      Its a little scary to think. But Also I think people generalize religion too much. A lot of people practice naturalist-humanist, no matter their religious beliefs. The differences relay to the details of dogmas, scapegoats, and rivalry performed intrinsicly by everyone and cultures. These details are cause of wars. We should be upset with religions not religion. Even without fundamental religious practice there still will be groups and/communities gathered under common beliefs; religion.
  • Nov 18 2011: I am pretty sure that his is the research I read a few years back. I'll dig to see if he has released more since then, but is there anyone else? This seems like ti could be a big idea.
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      Nov 19 2011: It's an ancient one.
      • Nov 20 2011: Yes, but now we can not only prove it scientifically that the area axists regardless of who/what you believe.. but now we may have the ability to get that result wihtout the rest....
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    Nov 18 2011: http://plato.stanford.edu/entries/cognitive-science/#CriCogSci

    http://www.ted.com/talks/lang/en/vs_ramachandran_the_neurons_that_shaped_civilization.html
    MY response: This idea of "mimesis" is an ancient one. How we (consciously and unconsciously) mimic, copy, and mirror our environments is ultimately who we become.

    http://seedmagazine.com/content/print/buddhism_and_the_brain/
    Buddhism is a big topic in science communities today, due to the parallels between scientific fact and Buddhism philosophies. A great article to help explain why.

    http://www.psychologytoday.com/blog/thinking-about-kids/201009/what-middle-school-parents-should-know-part-2-adolescents-are-lawyer
    A look inside the developing teenage mind.

    http://www.futurepundit.com/archives/002183.html
    Our mind on love!

    Books;
    "The Female Brain" by Louann Brizendine
    "The Developing Mind: How Relationships and the Brain Interact to Shape Who You are" by Daniel Siegel
    http://www.questia.com/library/book/societies-of-brains-a-study-in-the-neuroscience-of-love-and-hate-by-walter-j-freeman.jsp (Title - author in link + book)

    I lost my old bookmarks (I can find more), but this is a small list of cog sci related articles that are very entertaining and informative, enjoy!
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      Nov 18 2011: Love the list Nicholas. I love cognitive science and always have. Have you read many articles by Antonio Damasio? When you take cognitive science and link up its insights with neuroscience you get even more insights.
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        Nov 18 2011: Post some Debra.

        Also, neuroscience is a cognitive science, not mutual topics, just a subset.
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        Nov 19 2011: Cognitive science as it is today is basically "the philosophy of cognitive sciences" as in the broad rational, precise and scientific facts relative to the human mind. Any topic in the "philosophy of mind" is dealt cognitively and whether it is scientific or not is the difference between science and philosophy.

        Without neuroscience there would be no cog sci. Cog sci is too broad to one subject manner but they both use one another interdependently. I mean consciousness and thinking processes are so vague!

        Great videos!