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Can Social Media alone improve Truth in the News? Or is Policy Action needed to stop the Media System of Murdoch or Berlusconi?
Paul Lewis explained the benefits of citizen reporters providing independent reality bytes to his newspaper. He could create, puzzling, a new picture of reality which was closer to truth than the police stories. Technical opportunities of Social Media became moral benefits for him and for us as an society - because his newspaper had an interest to publish the social-media-reality.
As we all know the Murdoch and Berlusconi Type of Media use the same technology to some times distort reality and and to create "their" puzzle of reality which sells best. According to the newspaper journalists of News Corp. are supposed to have hacked in mobile fones and even mailboxes of a dead child. Such Media systems have vested interests in Billions per year - it is in their best interest to have news for their best business. If the news of this world are not appropriate..... News Corp. just lost 738 Millionen Dollar of earnings (3. Quarter 2010 / 2011, Süddeutsche Zeitung)
Are such econonmic interests of news companies the right incentives to generate truthful news or to critize the political class?
Doesn´t society deserves a media system built on other more moral incentives? Like Non-Profit-Foundations?
Do we need a new media system if a more sustainable and peaceful global world is to be build? Do we need a Media-Reform as we need a Banking-Reform?














Bernd Fesel 30+
Transparency - a Media Watch by citizen. You are right. In this direction might be a solution. It will be slower than legislation, but in the end more effectively. Just think of Human Rights Watch.
There are members of TED who proposed a similar idea to TED itself. What role can TED play in Media-Watch is also an interesting question, but I believe this would change TED very much. I feeel this must be a separate plattform.
Bob Van Oosterhout 20+
x = this segment contains untrue or misleading information and cannot be used to make intelligent , informed political decisions
g = This segment is based on verifiable facts and contains no evidence of bias.
Bernd Fesel 30+
Transparency - a Media Watch by citizen. You are right. In this direction might be a solution. It will be slower than legislation, but in the end more effectively. Just think of Human Rights Watch.
There are members of TED who proposed a similar idea to TED itself. What role can TED play in Media-Watch is also an interesting question, but I believe this would change TED very much. I feeel this must be a separate plattform.
Bob Van Oosterhout 20+
Legislation could only pass through a ballot proposal that bypassed the legislatures. The Clean Politics Act would accomplish this in the States if enough signatures were gathered to put in on the ballot. http://bobvanoosterhout.com/id118.html
Bob Van Oosterhout 20+
I would suggest that if we want a rating system that reflects the contribution of Murdoch to journalism that "AAARRRGHHHHHHHH!" be considered to designate some of what passes for news.
Bernd Fesel 30+
In Germany media is highly decentralized and regionally strong - a tradition after the 2nd WorldWar.
Christophe Doré
Boycott is illegal as it is consdered as a discriminatory action
(see, in French :http://www.legifrance.gouv.fr/affichCodeArticle.do?idArticle=LEGIARTI000006417835&cidTexte=LEGITEXT000006070719)
Then call to boycott is illegal as is illegal any call to illegal action.
Bernd Fesel 30+
Christophe Doré
Now, medias may zoom a bit too much on this. Demonstrating is not our first leisure :) Good food primes !!
Christophe Doré
I totally agree that the digital shift has helped this. Not because making a good picture would have become much easier - I don't think it is true - but because it is so much easier to share (so among all that people, it is easier for a good pic to reach medias) AND because we are so getting used to seeing low quality on-the-fly taken pictures and movies from phone that our requirement for a picture in media is getting lower.
Now, when it is about journalism itself, i.e. managing information, I'm not sure that the digital world has changed a lot in the need for a pro to validate and investigate to give us sound and relevant content. I guess it has changed the means, not the need. What can change this need is our requirement: if we, as public, accept shallow and questionable information from pro media, no doubt that the competitive pressure will have pro do less before revealing something.
And IMHO, this has
Debra Smith 200+
Christophe Doré
Sorry for this one.
(and it seems somehow my text has be truncated :( )
Bernd Fesel 30+
But how do you keep up pressure on journalism pros to validate in a media system of Berlusconi?
The people in Italy were demonstrating in the streets in front of the public television station - protesting to be report on! public tv was simply advised by Berlusconi not to report. they just designed an image of the public on tv which however did not exist.
By the way: the financial crisis will put Berlusconi out of office finally. I never expect anything good of this crisis. I have to change my opinion now...
Christophe Doré
Social media has demonstrated 2 interesting here: the ability to share ideas and information without preliminary censorship and the ability to "mobilize" people for a cause. (look at the flash mobs for instance).
Could we hope to use social media to ask for a boycott of censoring news feeds such as Berlusconi's companies?
(Please note that call to boycott is illegal in some countries like France....)
Bernd Fesel 30+
But is it illegal to boycott ?
France has such a great tradition of demonstrations, opionion taken to the street.
Thank God it is legal to report about boycott - smile.
when artists engage we report also. our mission - culture changing the world.
F.e. in London lately: http://www.2010lab.tv/en/blog/occupy-cinema
Bernd Fesel 30+
Ed Schulte 50+
response -able-ity
of each individual to receive and interact with media / social and otherwise / which reflects ones own consciousness. Current western media / murdoch / fox / trump / cnn / national enquire / world news / cbc etc etc are all operating proofs that "all opinion is vanity" and feeds on itself.
Juliette Zahn 50+
Bernd Fesel 30+
It is the same as with burglars. I can not feel safe if the burglar "only" hit my neighbour, can I? Especially if the burglars are a well organized system.
Certain media tpyes are not serving the needs, they were created for - and were even privileged for by society ! If society does not apply some rules to media - as to taxi drivers which have to show their liscence (transparency !), such media might turn out to be the mass destruction.
Just look what happened to the British Government: Credibility lost in space? Which mustn´t bother us, but in times of finance crisis this means some Billions extra in debt, being paid by us. Media makes these news - today tripple AAA was accidentily questioned for France. A perfect chance to make profits at the stock markets in a few minutes.
Christophe Doré
Debra Smith 200+
Bernd Fesel 30+
Debra - I like it the more I think about it.
Juliette Zahn 50+
This way truth would have a better chance.
Great idea Debra !!
And Christophe.
Christophe Doré
Just because, I guess for some obvious reasons, news of your country focus on what might more or less affect its audience. And nobody in France cares about what happens in New Zealand except catastrophes and world championships (these are world wide interest events), and when an event involves French Spies....
James Turner 10+
I always assume the news in spun one way or the other because the primary goal of news is to sell shows and papers. Reporters run B role to fill in and editors make the final decisions on what gets on the air and what is hidden away. Newspapers have editors and they are guided by sales, politics, and bosses. All news is suspect because it cannot reveal the whole truth and story. Even as I write this comment and try to stay neutral biases show through.
News paper reporters try to get those coveted awards and those who set the guides for the awards set the standards for news to some degree. This is not wrong it just puts a spin on the type and quality of news that is placed in the public eye.
Even the Nobel Committee has standards that must be met. You do not see cartoonists getting Nobel Prizes for peace yet they give them to politicians who have done nothing for peace but sell a good line. This sets the standard to some degree.
Maybe I am more cynical but I have seen to many bad news stories and too many poorly researched programs that miss critical facts to believe much in the news media today.
Christophe Doré
- he is supposed to get information from several sources and check they tell the same story
- he is supposed to question things, ask some whys, hows,... and explain us how something come to happen (and not just tell what happens)
Moreover, he is supposed to report honestly, so be either really objective, either be subjective but be clear of how are his opinions.
Now we get what we buy for the effort we give: if we play it "lazy", let media choose what stories to be told, what opinions to have, without any ethics control, we should not be surprised that this happens and that ethics is trampled. But I agree both medias and public are responsible.
(In the same idea, you can tell that it is immoral to see paparazzi bug famous people, that they also have the right to shop/dinner/whatever quietly, but if there were not so many people living other's life instead of taking care of their own, this would not happen.)
So I don't think that social medias can replace the news, but I believe that it can improve the Truth there as long as it can be a counter-power, by witnessing issues/facts that medias did not mention or which contradict any forged news.
Bernd Fesel 30+
Allan Macdougall 30+
If so, then it is a sad idictment on our own sense of morality - addicted as we seem to be, to bad news and gossip.
News Corp are responding commercially to what is in demand, a demand that we have created.
Should we therefore be questioning the morality of the likes of News Corp, or the media-buying public and the addiction that it has for page after page of derogatory, inflammatory tittle-tattle?
Hacking the phone of a dead child represents the absolute nadir of morality that anyone can ever conceive. It is outrageous, and probably happened also as a result of the morally impotent self-regulatory control that the media seems to hold up as a paragon of virtuous behaviour.
Stephen Camm
Bernd Fesel 30+
I like your idea with the ranking - what about a website which just simply lists which media is just being sued for violating laws and media regulations? or paying fines? The reader might see then that the article he is just reading has been realized under a violation off....
Stephen Camm
Bernd Fesel 30+
But if we agree that we should try to set limits to a system like Murdochs it would be a great step. Traditional limits are economic limits like competition laws asf... But as you said: It is more about moral rules.
But as you said: If it worked with "fat", I am hopeful that in the end enough individuals decide to say no to "bad media" !