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When political parties are ineffective or corrupt, should we participate? What is the solution?
In india and many other countries I believe the problem of corruption persists...
and its one problem which is most difficult and near to impossibility to solve...
I have no trust and confidence in any political party or leader in the country.....none of the current leaders can solve the problems of the country and develop...
the majority are corrupt ....what is the way out for such a country with so much to offer to the world...but without proper leadership?
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Closing Statement from vishnu narang
More frequent voting so that politicians don't get a free ride for a few years and only start to worry about the public's reaction near the election....Keep them on their toes and keep them INSECURE.....
Praveena Shrestha 10+
And I also know that You are Indian...ok...then lets
talk about Negative attitude?????
Attitude...what do u say say about this
Praveena Shrestha 10+
Praveena Shrestha 10+
I did not undestood...
Vishnu
Praveena Shrestha 10+
vishnu narang
Praveena Shrestha 10+
Sorry
Praveena Shrestha 10+
Best of luck
vishnu narang
just by ignoring that fact wont change anything...
the problem is we cant do anything else than to go and vote for the best....although it does not make a difference....we genuine voters are in minority....So what you call negative attitude is actually my concern of trying to think of a better option....
Praveena Shrestha 10+
vishnu narang
vishnu narang
and i was saying...lets talk about negative attitude....as it would be fruitful you say :) :)
John Locke
Why are governments corrupt?
Why aren't the people doing anything about it?
Well to answer the first question, governemnts are corrupt when certain people decide to use the governemnt system for their own well being instead of the peoples. This problem can not really be stopped. In every government people will become corrupt with power, but it is the citizens job to remove them from office if they do become corrupt.
The second question is a bit easier to answer. The people of India and other countries with corrupt governments are not doing anything about their governemnts because they either are unaware of their governements corruption (this actually happens quite a lot. Citizens are too isolated to hear news about the government or theyare too busy working to feed their families to even care or have an interest in government.) or they are too afraid/unaware of how to solve this problem.
So, what is the solution? Is it to start peacful protest? Is it to vote for independent poiliticans? This is a major proble and I truely hope that India and other countries are able to find a solution.
vishnu narang
so naturally people rather look out for their families....and not politicians...
John Locke
vishnu narang
bcoz you know every crazy person says that he is not crazy... :)
i mean would you believe if a person just tells you that he is not corrupt....and that too if he is a politician... think about the difficulty....
Vivek Trivedi 10+
vishnu narang
Matthieu Miossec 100+
vishnu narang
1: finding like minded people is not enough...
2: convincing them is a pain.
3: even if convinced getting into politics and actually winning an election is near to impossible...
because people do not trust anyone new....and if they get cash for their votes we'll end up getting only a handful of votes...
so yeah this is again movie stuff....
Vivek Trivedi 10+
vishnu narang
frankly speaking i wont do that....because the fact is that there is less than 0.01% chance to succeed in making a difference in country like INDIA...
Praveena Shrestha 10+
Cause if you see the problem then you should know the solution MAn!!!!
Letitia Falk 10+
Maybe voting for a party every few years and letting them do what they want is outdated. It suited people fine back when communication and travel were difficult. But maybe with all of the technology available to us in this day and age we could come up with a better system using technologies like the internet and social media. There is no reason for a politician to be disconnected from the public in this age of communication. Polls could easily be done on the internet to find out how people feel about issues and the public could have a say in the actual descisions being made rather than just electing a leader to make those decisions for them.
Polling everyone every time a decision needs to be made isn't effective if everyone has to take a day off work, go line up in a polling station and manually tick a box, but it could be done with modern technology: You wake up, have your morning coffee, watch the news and vote on some issues on your laptop and then go off to work.
vishnu narang
but we really need a better system.....if a leader is not performing his required duties....
we should have the power to remove him and get someone else immediately....not wait for the common elections to come...
Letitia Falk 10+
vishnu narang
vishnu narang
they have to elect atleast one...thats like the rule...
Orlando Hawkins 20+
Vivek Trivedi 10+
Orlando Hawkins 20+
To answer your question if people realized the power they had, things will change a lot. The masses, the general public is much more larger and much more powerful than an established poly-archy. I really think the answer is more of a neuroscientific, psychological and biological one as much as it is a political and philosophical one. We should try to understand how the human mind can be influenced by certain ideologies and language. From a psychological perspective we should try to understand the influences fear and power has on us and from a biological perspective we should try to understand if the establishments of hierarchies is indeed a product of biology or is it simply a social construct. I could be wrong about this approach but this is how i see it.
Orlando Hawkins 20+
Your right, in democracies individuals have the liberty to speak out their minds and voice their opinions but I personally do not think this is enough without the government really putting into consideration what the people are expressing to them. In the U.S. budget cuts on eduction has had a big impact on individuals. I have been involved and and seen and heard many protest but most of this efforts seems really futile given that nothing has really changed. Also it really comes down to how much money is in the piggy bank in regards to education. So despite these efforts if the money is not there then there really is nothing the government can do. The U.S. really is no different given that we have many fanatic people on the Right (really extravagant, evangelical Republicans and Tea Party members). Now I do not want to generalize and state that all politicians are bad but I think for the most part they are more worried about getting elected and fulfilling their personal interest before that of the people they rule. But your right, it really does come down to picking the lesser of two evils.
I'm not advocating that people be apathetic about their government. If anything that will spell a recipe for disaster and for a corrupt government, it would be as though they hit the jackpot if millions of people did not care what they did. People should be more critical than apathetic but what I was saying is that if few individuals out of a million did not care, this would not be a problem.
With regards to whats going on in India, that is very interesting and I can see why you and Vishnu are really passionate about his. I looked up Team Anna and it does seem to promote good policies. I really wish there were more people like that in America that are willing to stand up for whats right. The ones that do are given labels like fanatic, extremist, conspiracy theories, etc all of which have negative connotations.
Vivek Trivedi 10+
vishnu narang
Tim blackburn 30+
Praveena Shrestha 10+
vishnu narang
what you say is not practical....sorry but i disagree with this solution....
Christophe Cop 500+
Find people who also want change, find common ground, make a statement, go lobby and eventually try and get elected yourself.
Or try and add to existing movements, connect them and augment their impact.
Or figure out how you can prove the corruption, and publish it.
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So many things you can do. If you really want to of course... (Change does not come from people who just state things are bad)
Gerald O'brian 50+
I never vote and never get interested in politicians. I know a few names, but that's it.
I leave it to people who care. Sure, if everyone was like me, we'd be living with a dictator. But I truly don't understand why the world is such a peaceful place, why democracies work. I admire the people who believe in it.
I'm just amazed and focus on my daily life, enjoying what other people fight for.
Is this wrong?
Vivek Trivedi 10+
Gerald O'brian 50+
As I said, I admire those who care enough to make this a great world.
I'll never say anything bad about any politician. I'm too much of an ignorant for this.
I'm a good person and do good around me. I just can't get interested in governmental policies.
Is it a duty to care about it? Or is being a really nice citien enough?
lynn eschbach 30+
What IS that picture?
Vivek Trivedi 10+
vishnu narang
what will you do then...
ignoring does not help then....
and @Gerald: I do accept your view....one man cannot make a difference....so its only natural to think that way....
Gerald O'brian 50+
Orlando Hawkins 20+
Plus, to be honest, it would not matter if Gerald decides to vote or not, given that there will be a million other people who will vote, making his vote in a sense useless. So its really not as bad as you think it is. Now if many people are misinformed and glorify the government and fail to see the corruption due to being apathetic to politics, then we would have a problem. But apathy is not the problem, its ignorance.
Vivek Trivedi 10+
And say, if the feeling of Gerald, comes in million of like minded people, and they decide not to vote because of apathy, what kind of government we are bound to get? The government which will spend all our taxes as per their wish.
Your last statement said many people are misinformed and glorify the government due to being apathetic to politics. I can perceive from it the being apathetic is a larger issue in the interest of nation, If you are ignorant about everything, then choosing not to vote "may" be a little right.
I appreciate your insights and you may be right considering the political situation in your country, but I would request you to special case of India, where dynastic rule has been imposed on us since independence, which is because in every election voting percentages are always between 35-40%. As you said, apathy towards democratic processes has stopped people in taking interest and part in it, and votes are being given on the name of caste, creed and dynasty.