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What do you think is the main reason why contemporary kids do not like / understand opera?

Speaking of music, my generation has a strong tendency to go mainstream and identify themselves with modern music, that unfortunately seems to be from assembly line production -- all the same with no soul and no real massage to demonstrate.
When I mention opera as a beautiful music genre and an interesting way of expressing your thoughts through music, the majority doesnt get it. They probably think it is too "old school" or too boring to have an actual contribution to their lives, or they assume it is a part of the "high-society" life, that not all of them can and want to live.
Can you think of any ways to make opera more attractive and open to all of us? Do you think opera should somehow evolve and adapt to the requirements of the market, or that it should stay classical and traditional?

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    Oct 17 2011: well...choice of music is like making friends i.e it is a personal thing that doesn't really need any rationalization. but, like popular kids have more friends, so does popular music have more listners.Essentially, you judge a music by the impact it has on the people. It sounds crude, but it is all that matters for better or for worse.
    as for message is concerned, most of the operas are pedestrian (for info, i am a classical pianist, so i do know what i am talking abt). Each genre is a reflection of the culture in which it took birth. In the absence of that culture, we can only relive it by educating and discipline of music. if you really wanna sell it, get a celebrity to tweet abt it....if opera has to be mainstream, all things concurrent to it has to be mainstream. that's why shakespeare and the like are not cool.
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    Oct 10 2011: my take:

    enjoying music is not given. it needs learning. it all boils down to musical memory and pattern recognition. you can enjoy a piece of music if it fits in your musical memory, and you can identify the structure of it, or more precisely, understand more of the intricate network of patterns. without learning, you can only "understand" pop and rock. you can pick up emotions in the tone of instruments, the lyrics, and a few, say 4-6 consecutive notes. that's why most pop songs are repetitive and simple.

    musical understanding comes with practice. to actually pick up the "message" in an opera, you need to comprehend structures of 10-15 notes or even more, in multiple voices. for an unexperienced listener, these notes just come after one another in a somewhat arbitrary order. it puts a burden on the brain. it is more stressful than enjoyable.

    i run into a test some years ago that checked musical memory and pattern recognition. i'm an opera lover, but otherwise, a complete outsider, i don't play any instruments, i lack any formal musical training. my score was 95%. i asked a rock-fan friend of mine, and her result was 50%. those who played any instruments, reported 100% and complained about the test being too easy.
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        Oct 11 2011: no, but it was written below it :) i'm not attending our opera house, because they rarely feature baroque operas, and even if they do, not what i like. plus i don't trust their level of performance.

        if you want something good, i recommend the harnoncourt version of the monteverdi operas.
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      Oct 11 2011: Well said.
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    Oct 8 2011: To change Opera to suit a market would be to turn it into the exact thing you dislike about 'pop' music.

    Pandering to a market is an unfortunate side-effect of consumerism. It ends up watering the original down to a soulless sameness.
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    Oct 15 2011: @katarina :) your welcome ma'am :)
    happy to have this conversation :)
  • Oct 14 2011: I think part of it is lack of access. I don't mean just recordings, mp3's, or what have you - I mean the full experience. I've studied music, and listening to a recording of an opera is only a fragment of the effect of watching and listening to it in theatre. Operas are expensive productions to create and show, often reflected in the pricing. I took my older sister to see The Last Empress at the Hummingbird in Toronto many years ago, and it was about $70 a ticket for mediocre seats. That doesn't seem like much when you're an established adult, but I was a teenager working two part-time jobs and saving for university. Couple that with most being in a romantic language (Italian, French, etc.) that many youth do not understand fluently and a time period that is hard for them to relate to. Why would a teenager want to spend $70 for a night of that? She or he would rather spend that money going out with friends.

    Today, I think contemporary music concerts ARE the modern operas. They're elaborate shows that address topics that resonate with today's youth, in a context and language that they can understand. I'm not saying that classical opera should just be forgotten, but it does need to take those things into account. A lot of today's musicals and plays are based on older stories, but are re-written with account for today's society. Romeo and Juliet became West Side Story. Madama Butterfly became Miss Saigon (and was referenced in Weezer's Pinkerton album). Othello became O. I think that linking these modern takes back to their original operas and plays will help garner an interest in traditional opera.
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    Oct 13 2011: i wonder how many people would like this

    • Oct 13 2011: :O no way, I am listening to Philip Glass just now :D
      I love his music ... he makes soundtracks that might not be so epic in their grandness, but they are pretty intimate and evoke a very strong feeling (of fear and dejection usually- appealing on the Secret Window Movie music). He is the master of harmony and beautiful musical minimalism.

      The vid you just sent is indeed interesting. Again a proof that he can make a something out of nothing :)
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      Oct 15 2011: Kristian...thank you...this is one of the most importants works from Glass. Extremly important and beautifull.
    • Oct 18 2011: wow thanks for sharing
    • Oct 20 2011: It is very easy to listen to and, therefore, like: harmonious, melodious, repetitive. It is people like Schoenberg who are very difficult to listen to, understand or like. And intellectual snobs ridiculed young people coming to music for preferring the old classical composers of melody and harmony and not understanding Schoenberg and his ilk. As a result they turned to stuff that's fun the listen to, like the Beatles,
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        Oct 20 2011: i can assure you, i've never ever heard this name. in public schools, at least around here, modern music is completely missing. and people listen to pop, rock, hiphop and simple techno, all of them are melodic-repetitive. this alleged force-fed modernism is nonexistent.
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    Oct 12 2011: Katarina is the same thing with the old people. Why we have to hear that screaming sounds that flood from everywhere? Why we have to be in a overdose of exposure to noisy enviroment. The tirany of the noise is unavoidable...not ll the music is for all the people. Hav you heard:


    this is the real evidence that remains some worthy.
    • Oct 13 2011: Yes, I have seen that video, and I was positively stupefied. :)

      I sing opera myself, though I was never lead to it through my family or environment around me ... I just started attending vocal lessons when I was 6, and as I grew older, the music I performed became more challenging and complex, as finally I reached opera. That was just where I realized the immense strenght and uniqueness of it, and started spreading it around me. Opera is a high music genre indeed.

      Now, just as these guys in the video, there are more groups that bring opera back to life and make it perhaps more attractive to the younger audience, and I am really pleased seeing that :)
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    Oct 11 2011: I'm a fan, but I hate opera houses. I don't think there's anything better than wearing headphones in your couch, reading the lyrics on the booklet as you listen.
    I don't need the smell of perfume and people caughing their lungs out as I concentrate not to mind the crappy seat I'm uncomfortable in. It distracts the living sh... out of me.
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    Oct 11 2011: That is one good question!
    I think the main reason is that we (I still don't consider myself an adult) do not understand the fine arts, like opera. We have not been taught music and understanding of it like we have of many other arts, like literature. E.g. the first time you hear Shakespeare you're mostly dumbstruck because it is hard to comprehend, but then your teacher takes you on a trip into Shakespeare's world and suddenly it all opens up. I hope the issue is the same for opera: the first time we hear it, we don't get it. We need some sort of education or guiding in it to really appreciate it, and I for one have not been given that, yet.
    It's such a shame that the kids today are not offered the same education in arts like music as we are in literature. I believe we are missing a great part of the world here and who knows how many kids out there are bored to death with Jane Austen, but would find analyzing an opera by Wagner the most exciting thing in the whole world if they were just once introduced to it properly?
    For your suggestion about whether operas should adjust, I would say that all genres of art adjust in some way to the contemporary society, but rarely to become popular. I would say that art for art's sake is the right way to think here and that any art, that be music or painting, should be confident that it will always find its followers.
    Lastly, I think you are brave to discuss opera with your friends! As you might be able to tell, I'm more into literature, but my friends look at me in a "freak"-sort of way every time I start debating it. That is likely another issue that keeps kids away from operas: it can be socially dangerous to be different in this way. There is an unwritten code that says "keep away from this and that" and unfortunately opera is on that list of don'ts. I would like to hear from someone in here: How do we get rid of that list of things not to like that we all know kids follow?
    Thanks to all who read this!
    Regards, Morten
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    Oct 11 2011: I don't like Opera because A) I cant understand what their saying, B)I feel like I'm being yelled at, and C) It all sounds similar, it doesn't really alter in sound
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      Oct 11 2011: and it never occurred to you that maybe you just don't notice the nuances. i'm not sure if you are cute in your honesty or just arrogant.
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        Oct 13 2011: I was worried someone would say this. I'm not trying to be arrogant in any way, I think it was just the way I worded it that it could appear that way...sorry about that.
    • Oct 11 2011: Okay, I get what you are saying...
      So what kind of music do you like? What genre do you think best describes you? Through what do you seek relax, understanding and beauty?
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        Oct 13 2011: I personally like techno, there is something so emotional about the usually instrumental music. Not many kids my age like it though...in all honesty im one of pretty much 6 kids in my school who do listen to it. And I almost always get chills of satisfaction at at least 1 part in the song.
        • Oct 13 2011: Yes, techno can be very energizing sometimes. I love instrumental music as well...usually purely instrumental soundtracks from various movies, because they have a unique energy in them. I like music which paints pictures in my mind, which brings taste into my mouth and soothes me or gives me chills- just like you said. Music should behave like a living organism-- thats how I judge whether it is good or not.
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        Oct 14 2011: Same here, you should try listening to a cd by the name of Chorus of Tribes by Myth. It's worldly but its still techno like. At first it was weird but i've really come to like it
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        Oct 16 2011: my pleasure
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    Oct 9 2011: The main reason is lack of exposure. The second is lack of access due to price. The most wonderful thing to happen in the last few years is that you can watch operas livecast from the New York Met at movie theatres for special matinees. The cost is far less than a ticket at the Met, it is subtitled so that the uninitiated (like I was) can follow the action and there are in depth interviews during the long Met intermissions.

    I now feel that I am a lot more knowledgeable about opera and I even have my own favourites. Not surprisingly though, I am usually the youngest person in the audience!
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    Oct 8 2011: Art culture in film has developed a retarded system of melodrama. You always know who the good and bad guys are, and that alone takes away from analytically thinking about the play and what's going on.

    All art should evolve, and the fact it has evolved into "dubstep" and "pop-lyrics" with no extreme thought behind the notes or lyrics, challenges lost.

    I agree, art today is developing terribly in the mainstream, it is because the people who actually buy CD's are mainly teenagers. There is an old joke I heard "What is the difference between Yogurt and America?... If you leave Yogurt alone long enough it will develop a culture." lol loved it.

    Anyways, music is being controlled by children because they will spend money on things they can get for free online. Thus another conundrum. How can the talented bands/artist be popular if their fans do not support their sales? - Insert some argument about record companies raping their signed artists sales -

    Moving on...

    This problem is HUGE. It can get into the academic education problem. The media problem. The lack of challenging entertainment, in general, problem.

    I love opera, but it is not with the times. Today, commonly, people get mad their ten minute cheeseburger is taking fifteen minutes... That the rain is ruining their day... That the president is incompetent... Blaming shit on others and not themselves. A lack of ability to handle criticism. A lack of "depth" in general...

    Opera will revive one day. Ever watch the "fifth element"? Just needs a change up, an addition, some jazz. Sci-fi movies a few decades ago were depicting computer beats as music, oh snap techno! Artist looking the world artistically will change art, as long as language and cultures are unique.
    • Oct 8 2011: Problem; Bob's statement holds ground against this sort of argument. Children aren't being introduced to a REAL variety of music and art(the art in question being opera); thus, they grow older with a preconceived and compartmentalized(even complacent) view of art as teens. It shouldn't be the art that has to change for people to accept it; it should be the responsibility of others to conceive a valid interpretation of an art style.

      Basically, if one doesn't like a certain style of art, it isn't the art's fault.

      This next statement is a blunt insertion of my own bias; if an art is popular, it should be so due to the sincerity of its artistry, overall technique, and vision over milquetoast and cliche ideals and/or the insertion of different forms simply to 'make a difference'.
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        Oct 9 2011: Who's fault is it they do not get a variety? Parents? A child's environment?

        A culture is one that shares environments and ideas to develop communication between patrons.

        The America culture is developing like a fourteen year old in my opinion. I mean a cellphone today thrown back in time would be a tool of Godliness, today it is used to stay in touch with friends.

        The best tragedies in history involve a sort of destruction for a confused perspective on things... Well, if kids do not realize that they play with more advanced equipment than what it took to land on the moon... what does that say about developing culture(s)?

        Art has no intrinsic patterns, like Aristotle would love to believe, but it can have "depth" to it, or something like depth.

        Superficialities is the norm of today, so since I cannot blame "art". I blame the producers, the artist, the parents, and overall culture. Children can't know the history of things, the variety of today's things, and the next interest without help. This help indirectly comes from some older source. Friends who teach friends learned it from somewhere that existed prior to them, they are not geniuses off the bat.

        I consider this vicious cycle of no greater thinking to be in play for the past 60+ years in the states. Music, any art for that matter, should be where exploring comes from, and it does! But if your music, your preferences (any of them) - TELL YOU what to love, hate, think about, etc. It will change your thinking.

        A parent that does not think out of the box will not produce a future parent that does.

        The reality is, inside the box thinking gets you laid, and that's number one priority for our youth.

        "Consistency is contrary to nature, contrary to life. The only completely consistent people are dead."
        - Huxley

        A dead culture? Already? So, chill?
  • Oct 20 2011: I'll send you a plate. I was one of the masses who, as a teenager in the mid-20th century was sneered at for my plebian taste for Verdi and other melody-rich and harmonious music.

    For the same scenario in architecture read "From Bauhaus to Our House" by Tom Wolfe.

    For the same scenario in literature, I speak from personal experience as an editor and project manager for an international publisher.
  • Oct 20 2011: Opera (and other forms of classical music) was crushed from two sides: (a) the snobbery associated with it and (b) avant garde composers who shoved undigestible rubbish down their long-suffering audiences' throats and ridiculed anyone who loved the "easy-listening" music with traditional harmony and melody.

    There must always be room for experiment in art and new forms that may at first be inaccessible. But unfortunately, because the atonal classical music from the midddle of the last century was so inaccessible, it gave a lot of room for talentless con artists to jump on the band waggon and pretend that what they produced was art and alienated and ridiculed anyone who did not appreciate it. So anyone who listened to Verdi was considered a low-brow idiot and driven from the theatre by ridicule. So an entire generation since then did not bring up their children to love opera as their forefathers had.

    Architecture suffered much the same fate, as did poetry and reading. Kids are still being brought up that they should only read "good books" under which is understood, anything that is not enjoyable. Based on the mindless philosophy that if food tastes bad it must be good for you, like spinach, and you should avoid any food that tastes good. So, if it is a boring read, it is a good book. So "good mothers" forbid their chidlren to read thrillers or romances and they end up reading nothing at all, ever. That is what happened to opera.

    Therefore, if you want audiences, respect them. The avant garde did not respect their audiences.
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    Oct 19 2011: Opera is seen as inaccessible. Popular music, i.e. that which the vast majority of any population, historically the underclass, has always been accessible. Kids these days (as well as most music fans) want music they can relate to. They can't relate to something that they can't afford to get into to see. The sadness is that the emotions that are expressed through operatic pieces, in a grandiose way, are all the emotions that each of us feels to some degree one way or another. The themes in opera are the themes in life.

    Speaking from personal experience, I didn't like opera until my dad introduced me to the Who's Tommy (a ROCK Opera), which I know is not "true" opera, but it did lead me to appreciate opera as artistic expression (especially La Boheme - wow! I still remember crying when I got a chance to see that!)

    I don't think opera has to change to make itself more appealing for the kids - I think culturally we have to shift. Kids have access to ALL kinds of music - they have to reach out and explore beyond the banal and the repetitious. But it would help if WE as a society would stop looking at opera as something for the elderly rich elite and demand that ticket prices become more affordable and if we would start going to opera ourselves in droves, and take our kids at a very young age the same way we take them to amusement parks or county fairs. THAT would be a way to engender an appreciation and expose them to this beautiful form.

    And of course, play Tommy in the car while driving them to school every day!
  • Oct 19 2011: I am a music teacher. The answer is much simpler than you think.

    Kids like things that catch their attention. A loud, fast drum beat and a loud guitar is exciting to a child and catches their attention. Singing classical music (softer and smoother and therefore less exciting than rock) for TWO HOURS does not hold a child's attention, especially in another language (even in English, it is often hard to understand what is being said). There are more factors, but this is a HUGE reason.

    Also, kids don't understand what is going on in opera. If they understood the story and knew what was going on at each moment (not just the general plot), it would help them enjoy it more. But don't forget, pop songs are 2-3 minutes long, and an opera can last for hours. There will still be boredom for some kids even if they understand what is going on.
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    Oct 18 2011: There is a style of opera which has its roots in history and the music styles of historic periods. If you go back a few years, there was a period of using current music styles to tell stories in the same way as traditional opera - generally rock operas. Go back a bit before that and there was a period when film and stage musicals were extremely popular, Traditional opera used the popular style of its time to tell stories, and in concept that's no different from musicals.

    A whole opera is large and indigestible as an introduction to a style of music. Smaller samples are more likely to open someone's mind to a particular style, and use of a wide range of genres provides an opportunity for people to tune in to musical storytelling.

    As far aas the visual component is concerned, film and video often offer a more intensive experience than a stage production, with sophisticated use of music.

    There's a lot of musical experience out there which has the potential to lead youngsters to expand their listening horizons, and I think that sort of education has much more validity than trying to focus on one particular genre, with all the baggage of its traditional terminalogy.

    I'm not decrying opera when I say all this, but I think we should start to view it as part of a multidimensional spectrum of music if we want to break down barriers.
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      Oct 20 2011: I believe you have a valid point - to break it down essentially into more palatable "bite-sized bits" for the audience that will really enjoy that. For example, my daughter is doing a short report on Homer's Odyssey, and was having real difficulty with fomenting a coherent idea regarding basic ideas about the plot, but then she showed me a rap video on YouTube where a 4-minute Rap summed up the entire epic. It was very well done (especially for a DIY music video) and she really took on an appreciation for the story.

      Now if I could just encourage her to take that newfound enthusiasm and actually READ the epic for herself!

      But still, that ties into what you are saying - essentially, that the story is what is important. How it is told is a transmitting of the story: if a person can digest it fully through an opera, wonderful, and if some want to hear it in a million tweets throughout the day, either way can be expressive as an art form. A person who truly appreciates it and is enlightened by one medium will eventually find their way into the other media.

      Or am I way off base?
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        Oct 20 2011: The story itself is one way of getting kids involved. If that interests them then they may be prepared to listen to it being presented in an unfamiliar way. Size is another factor. An entire opera is large and indigestible as an introduction and something like your rap example may be a better way of getting a kid involved in the story.

        But there's a third factor and that's the style of music itself. I don't agree with the assumption that it is a worthy goal to get kids to like traditional opera for its musical content. The highly trained voice and elaborate score are not to everyone's taste and we should respect that. As kids mature, their tastes change and it's good to make a lot of different styles accessible to them but there isn't a 'right' type of music that they should grow to like.
  • Oct 18 2011: I think this question have not the main reason ,but have some reason , those reason should be different depend on different personal background culture background.we all know Shakespeare's opera and most of us read his florilegium from textbook, seen it from movie ,but due to different culture between our country and UK or europe, most of us still like our country's traditional drama. so my viewpoint is everyone have personal hobby ,we can not make different to like the same thing , we can only give some advice or traditional education to them ,once they have the intristing of opera , i think some of us will like opera.
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    Oct 18 2011: I wonder if there ever was a generation where opera was popular among kids and youth...

    Like everything: you can only like things if you are exposed to it first.
    Being exposed to different styles of culture is an important thing (in education)...

    Popularizing can be done, but then you might need huge marketing budgets. Promoting role models, broadcasting,...

    As for different interpretations of opera: both the classical and more contemporary approaches have their benefits.
    As with all things cultural (and musical): it gets mixed, rediscovered, revived, dormant,... but it almost never ceases to exist.
  • Oct 18 2011: Good art inspires in the way of the madeline in Proust's À la recherche du temps perdu (In Search of Lost Time; earlier translated as Remembrance of Things Past). It is a reminder of an idea or a blending of two or more remembrances. Just as each word of poetry brings its connotations which assemble into the meaning of each line, so music must evoke emotions through recognition of things perceived earlier. It can assemble them and juxtapose them to contrast ideas or it can simply bring back past emotions. All of this, though, requires those initial connections between the sound, the scene, and the feeling. Until you have that vocabulary, it has no meaning, it's just babble. This isn't just true of opera; it's true of rock, rap, barbershop, plainsong, and emo.

    Now maybe if the audience got to sing along and sway their arms like they do at a Taylor Swift concert. Ah, picture that.
  • Oct 17 2011: I think it really has to do with what you grew up with. Sort of like aquired taste, but aquired music. Me being a teenager its not that i don't like or understand opera, it's just that I am not surronded by it as much as I am surronded by rock or pop. (You don't see MTV or the radio randomly playing opera) Maybe in future generations, if opera does become a popular genre more teenagers would learn to appreciate it and understand it.
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    Oct 17 2011: I think we should not forget what Opera means: It is simply "a dramatic work in one or more acts, set to music for singers and instrumentalists". It is not just about words and whether they are understood or not. Death Metal for instance is very hard to understand or make out the words... they are being shouted. I listen to all kinds of music and enjoy them all.

    Another thing to remember, which helps answer the question, is pointing out how classical music (in operas too), are actually the starting point for any good music. Techno that sounds good, that is melodic, is in fact following the "rules" that were set by the greatest composers of all time. Many artists, across genres, actually use bits and pieces of classical. This a funny yet educational video about classical in all musical genres:

    Just showing kids (or adults) that classical music, as well as opera, is at the core of most modern music, will at least start by gaining some respect.

    In terms of them liking it. I must agree, that it is a matter of personal taste. Some people like it, others don't.

    From the metal music scene, there are a lot of examples of bands integrating classical music to their style. Rhapsody of Fire in fact, write what they call Metal Operas. Metallica had a concert where they performed with a full classical orchestra playing with them.

    It's music. It's emotional. You don't have to necessarily understand it. But you have to feel it. And the more you keep an open mind, the better you feel it.
  • Oct 17 2011: Personally I do not like opera, I do find it boring.
    However, I would like to ask, why should opera become more attractive? I ask this question in two ways.
    (1) Why should it need to change from what it is to become more attractive to the mainstream.
    (2) What is it about opera that requires its preservation?

    P.S: I don't mean any disrespect with these questions.
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      Oct 17 2011: ah, these are easy questions

      1. no need
      2. nothing

      we don't need 17th century paintings, architecture or literature either. there is no need to preserve erasmus, bach or michelangelo. we don't need to. we just want to. because we love and admire these things.
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      Oct 17 2011: Easy questions indeed:

      1- I agree, no need at all.

      2- Opera itself is being preserved as a statement of great achievements. But classical music is the basis, the foundation of all modern music. No exceptions... understanding notes... how to place them... all of it... you preserve it, because the best artists in their respective genres, all.... understand music...
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    Oct 17 2011: We can handle more information faster, but don't process the information indepth. I think if children were educated more about classical music rather than just forced into it, they would enjoy it. Plus we should surround them with all genres of music at a young age. We must remember that music is a certain genre. I'm certain that kids in the 70's (although i can't speak on their behalf) weren't going bananas for classical music. Every generation +-time had their own genre they enjoyed that was mainstream. It's more important people listen to something they enjoy or understand rather then just listen to music because it's "culture".
    On a side note, I do enjoy Operas and Opera music, but I feel sometimes they go on just a little to long.
  • Oct 16 2011: I believe that contemporary kids are not trained enough musically. I am a teenager, and although I enjoy modern music, I also like opera. I think this is because I have been trained musically since about 4 years old. I think what happens to a person as a younger child effects their tastes currently. We should change to like opera, and opera should change to like us. We should meet somewhere in the middle.
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    Oct 16 2011: Katarina,
    Building up on a previous post about adjusting to the times not by changing opera, but by making it relevant to the youth, I want to share this.

    Looking for something else, I came across conductor Akira Miyagawa. He is not the traditional type, although he is a classical conductor. For adults and children alike he found his way to make that music attractive to many.
    On top of his regular engagements, he has (or had) a TV program very much like the Muppets. The program is organized like a quintet (this gives the name to the series, You Gotta Quintet). First, a formal theme song is played, then a puppet show is presented, next, an instructional transition (e.g. music cartoons), then a concert, and finally a closing piece related to the theme. This is a friendly way to attract the younger crowd and inspire them, maybe to even take up en instrument. Wait a minute, this is Japan, of course almost every child already plays an instrument!

    Here is a link: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yYB5a6o9ab8&feature=related

    Anyway, I wonder if a similar approach including Opera would not help the very young in the West... Well in fact the Muppets have done it first, just not only focusing on Opera, but they touched on it... in their own way. Not sure if this will keep opera in its rightful place, though. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_0Q-W0FvR6g&feature=related
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    Oct 15 2011: Because it's boring? Because no one can't dance to it? Because it's seem as pompous and over the top? Because culture's don't respect older established venues? Because no one in their right mind would sing that way?

    Take your pick....