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Are we bound by destiny? Or can we actually make a choice, other than that we are "destined" to make? ( if destiny exist)

I currently believe that, in a sense, we cannot make a choice, any choice, other than what we are destined to make.
Imagine having a clone of our universe, IE: plants, animals, weather, Humans, even the experiences, thoughts, memories, synapses of all brains, down to the atomic level etc, .but neither Universe is aware of the others existence.
Then if we could "pause" both universes and "play" at the same time where they would be in complete sync, same cloud, same raindrops, same falling leaf, same decisions being made, same thoughts etc from both Universes.
Would not both "Worlds" continue to run in sync ?
I propose that they would continue in sync since decisions are made solely on information taken in previously and or situations which we find ourselves.
Then if we paused "Universe A" and allowed "Universe B" to continue to run for 100 years before "playing Universe A" would not Universe A have to follow the exact path that took place in Universe B? If not, then why not?
I think, if the above is true, that EVERY decision we make is the ONLY ONE we can make as it is based on the things around us, and also previous thoughts and experiences, since this is all we have "to go on" when making a decision.
And since these 2 universes are not dependent on each other, would the fact that one does not really exist change this concept any?"
I think that being able to compare the "idea" of having 2 identical universes somehow makes it easier to understand, or at least for me to be able to try to explain my thoughts.
Not that there is something or someone controlling what we do, just that we have to make THAT choice based on ALL information being presented to us and making any other choice other than that one, is impossible, unless i'm wrong in my thinking.
I tried to bounce this idea off of my wife, but she shuts down when I get to the part about "cloned universe".
Also, if this is true, then how does knowing this information affect you now?


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  • Oct 6 2011: Read up on 'determinism' if you're interested in this kind of stuff.

    It is also related to dualistic and monistic views on the nature of the human mind - dualism denotes that the human mind/spirit/soul exists in the physical universe and in a different substrate - presumably one on which only the mind operates, and somehow interacts with this world through the brain, while monism denotes that the human mind only exists in this material universe - and by extension must obey the same laws of physics that all other matter follows.

    Outside of the human mind, there is little reason for us to suppose that our universe operates on a duality... and most modern scholars studying into fields related to the brain/mind would agree with the monistic supposition of the workings of the human (and all other) minds.

    The last question you pose is particularly salient however - understanding that the we are affected by natural, measurable forces means that we can take that information and improve ourselves with it. We do not have to ascribe to ephemeral notions of spirit, willpower or character, what we can ascribe to a complex interplay of genetics, environment and opportunity.
    • Oct 7 2011: George,
      Will research some of these terms you present.

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