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A world without religion, how will it really look?

The voices against religious belief are growing stronger in recent years as is to be expected in this age of information, but would there really be an idyllic world waiting in the end of this war?

Would the people susceptible to the religious doctrines really abandon illogical thinking, or will we see the various "New Age" movements get stronger with new pseudo scientific lies that might seem like an easier path to take than the proof demanding science, as we see today from many secular people around the world?

How far are we from completely embracing knowledge and research? How do you envision such a world?

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    AbdelRahman Siddig

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    Feb 22 2011: A world without religion, how will it really look?
    it will looks like school where the students are willing to do any thing except study and learning
    it will looks like a hospitals where the patients willing to do any thing except taking the medicine
    it will looks like an office where employees willing to do any things except doing their work
    "I only created mankind and jinns to worship me " quran (51/56)

    • Keith Whittingham 20+

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      Feb 22 2011: @AbdelRahman Siddig: There is no basis for your argument. Even your quote from the Quran doesn't say that mankind has no moral compass without Allah. It merely states that mankind and demons (jinns) are simply worshipping machines for Allah who seems to need such a thing. It also implies that is that I, you, your family and friends, all of us have no intrinsic worth.

      The evidence shows the opposite. The more societies are moving away from religion then the more civilized they become. My use of the word "civilized" here means respectful of each other and of themselves.
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        AbdelRahman Siddig

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        Feb 22 2011: @ Keith
        let us step back one step before we can tell A world without religion, how will it really look?
        who is the world owner ?
        because the manufacture of each product is one who really knows why he made his product in the first place and he is also the one who make the manual of his product
        if some one bought a car and said I'm the owner of the car I will use it as I wish not as been mentioned in the manual is this a wise decision?

        • Keith Whittingham 20+

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          Feb 22 2011: @AbdelRahman Siddig: It seems to me that you are debating a different question from that posed in the title of this discussion. The question you are answering is “What would the world be like if Allah (not Yahweh, God, ...) had in fact created it and us according to the Quran and Hadith and all mankind were to forsake him/her/it”.

          In the question above, there is no world owner, no designer and no afterlife. We all just get on with it.

          Answer the exam question.

        • Keith Whittingham 20+

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          Feb 22 2011: @AbdelRahman Siddig: You seem to have forgotten to answer my challenge. What is your basis for claiming that morals are wholly dependent on the existence of a god?

          In other words. Do you think that if you discovered that Allah did not exist, you would suddenly start robbing every bank and raping every living thing you encountered? I think you are better than that AbdelRahman Siddig. I think you are probably quite a nice person, even without Allah.
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          Nicholas Lukowiak 50+

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          Mar 11 2011: People own the world not a god @AbdelRahman Siddig

          And when you are fighting for a religion do not use your religion to defend your position that is circular logic.

    • kris ho

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      Mar 14 2011: maybe no one would rule the world.... at least that would be a start for peace!!!! Why on earth do we need a great owner to own us like animals- or dare I say it sheep. I have a funny feeling that abdel rahman siddig's ideal of what it means to be a nice, honerable decent person and my idea are quite similar, and also quite similar to the other repliers of this portion of the conversation... (so long as we all leave the 'big fella' out of it!) Im sure he thinks about those in need, encourages his family to do well, be honset, be an active part of humanity. Im sure that he hopes for a bright future, with less racism, more tollerance, less crime. However so do I (a happy little athiest) The reality is mate, we all chant of the same song book, no happy, sound of mind, normal person would aims to be an asshole. It's just there are a few books and old school myths that get in the way of some of us even discussing our similarities, we simply look from our comfortable far off vantage points and see difference.

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