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A world without religion, how will it really look?

The voices against religious belief are growing stronger in recent years as is to be expected in this age of information, but would there really be an idyllic world waiting in the end of this war?

Would the people susceptible to the religious doctrines really abandon illogical thinking, or will we see the various "New Age" movements get stronger with new pseudo scientific lies that might seem like an easier path to take than the proof demanding science, as we see today from many secular people around the world?

How far are we from completely embracing knowledge and research? How do you envision such a world?


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  • Feb 15 2011: world without religion is like body without mint all people will do wht they want (kill,rope and more and more)
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      Feb 15 2011: Pfff... statements like that are the main reason this world is still not a fact.

      Religion doesn't equal morals.

      Societies without religion have (had) morals similar to ours. I'm thinking of some african tribes in particular, though I can't remember the name or in which TEDTalk I saw it.

      The basis for most moral questions that shapes morality as we have it today is "the golden rule" - treat others like you want to be treated, or the negative of that - don't do to others what you don't want them to do to you. The golden rule is one which even atheists follow. You don't need a book to make you see the wisdom in it. You don't need to believe in god or any other supernatural being(s) to know that YOU and everyone around you has value, and you should all therefore be bound by this rule.

      edit: Well, I haven't found the african tribe part, but here's a TEDTalk about the golden rule at least -
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      Feb 15 2011: wow, this is the first comment I've read on the TED conversations that made me look for a "vote down" button (which I'm happy doesn't exists, which I think is actually a good thing, since it doesn't discourage people from expressing contrarian / unpopular views...)

      I'm part of a growing number of atheists and agnostics who try to apply rationality and skepticism. We don't go around at nights to engage in rape or murder or 'more and more and more'. Why do you assert his opinion? What are your experiences with people who lose their faith (or never had any) and also their moral compass?

      On the other hand, there are some religious people who use their faith to justify acts of extreme cruelty, including genital mutilation, murder and 'more and more and more'. I'm not saying that religion leads necessarily to violence (although you say the absence of it does), and indeed most people of faith are good people just as most people without it are, but there is a worrisome tendency for extremists 'who have god on their side' to really lose a sense of moral boundaries.
      I concede the opposite point however: If you are a person who has violent tendencies, religion might be one way to channel it, with a big leviathan looming overhead, keeping you in check. Maybe for some people this makes them behave morally, and they might really behave otherwise without diving Big Brother. It seems to me however, that this isn't a very high standart of morality at all. Not doing evil simply for fear of punishment is surely the least moral reason.

      The fact is: Human beings (psychopaths exluded) are born with an immense innate capacity for empathy and morality. We enjoy being good to one another much more than doing harm.

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