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What 3 words or things come instantly in your mind when you hear the words "First World" & "Third World"
Please don't ponder or think much. Just right 3 words or name of 3 things come in your mind in respect to "First World" & "Third World". Be honest with your ownself while it's an humble request.
Just got curious about our mindset..... words & name of the things can be taken as the reflection of one's mindset. Nothing wrong or right. It's not a debate.
Lets' face the fact. Once we can face it may be we can try to change it if necessary otherwise what we will change ?
Topics:
First World Mindset Right fact third world wrong
Karina Eisner 10+
"Says who?"
And "where is Second World?"
Robert Edwards
You and I agree that classifications of societies leaves out the human aspect of it all. Wonderful people are present in EVERY culture and country. The terms that are referred to as 'first' and 'third' only refer to a countries status in terms of industrialization and development, not more than that.
For example, Denmark and Sweden are developed countries, while Ecuador and Botswana are third world. These terms 'first' and 'third' may not be up to date terms, but I learned them many years ago. I am only a hospital worker (respiratory therapist), not a sociologist or economist.
Regards,
B
Robert Edwards
Sorry, but I don't understand your point. Please expound on it. I am curious about your position. Thank you.
Luigi Vampa
Salim we dont have any restriction in the poetic field. And of course that all the world dont have to see with our own perspective. The real thing is be aware that we know to serve. And serve to love.
Debra Smith 200+
Salim Solaiman 50+
Many thanks for clarifying.
Helena Ripoll Hazell 20+
Salim Solaiman 50+
As usually I am asking here , may I know in respect to which world (First or 3rd World) it came in to your mind ?
Helena Ripoll Hazell 20+
Nice to join you in conversation again.
The answer is both.
For me there is only one big world. I don't have to go far away to India or Somalia to see poverty and famine, I can, for instance, walk down The Strand in Central London, at any time; and that's just one street. The same way I don't have to go too far to see the abuse of power and prominent injustice.
Salim Solaiman 50+
Helena Ripoll Hazell 20+
Salim Solaiman 50+
Muhammad Aizat Zainal Alam 30+
Salim Solaiman 50+
Above 3 words represents which world between two
Muhammad Aizat Zainal Alam 30+
Salim Solaiman 50+
Was it First World or 3rd Wolrd? As explained in the poster above .
Thanks again.
Muhammad Aizat Zainal Alam 30+
Thomas Jones 100+
[That's just the first thing that came to mind ... grammatically incorrect and, technically, four words, I know ... but what are ya gonna do?]
Salim Solaiman 50+
Answer is that's in the middle.
Please find my answer below to your question "...but what are ya gonna do?"
Lets' face the fact. Once we can face it may be we can try to change it if necessary otherwise what we will change ? (That's what Iis already explained above in the thread at the begining)
Thanks for thoughts
Thomas Jones 100+
It's an interesting question. I've lived in what we could call, First-, Second-, and Third-world countries. (And I've been in parts of the world that would be lucky if we called them 99th-world. For example, Southern Ethiopia, near the Kenyan and Somali borders.)
The only thing I have ever felt I could do about it was treat the people I interact with with compassion, humility, and respect.
I don't see BIG solutions. I see small ones.
Salim Solaiman 50+
Again my feeling is that those 3 virtues are greatly impacted by perception as well...... if deep back in mind one has some specific perception to someone that seems have definite impact on those 3 virtues....
Just to share with you, I am from a country wihich is labeled to be 3rd world, lived in highly rich economy like Singapore, lavish luxury of Saudi (as a spectator) now again in another 3rd world country. Met sufficient people from europe & US in different group setting either going there or somewhere else countries , so have a sort experience about different perceptions and outlooks.
Just exploring here in TED about that perception Vs my real life experience, .... ...
Luigi Vampa
Lies ....the number is not important....
Tags....I prefer quality ...better world, worst world, excellent world
Political excuses
Salim Solaiman 50+
Great to hear from you.
Thanks for your thoughts.
Luigi Vampa
Salim Solaiman 50+
I understand what you mean & feel how your poetic mind feeling with our prevailing situation. Do you feel that going away can bring any solution...........
Need to get solution from with in being with in.....
Isn't it
Luigi Vampa
The point here is not the place, is the people, I know a lot of real people from India (I was there servingin my earlier period as a jesuit) and they all are formidable people.
Really poor but really nice and harmonious and full of hope and enthusiasm to transform their lives in better lives. First, second ot third worls is the same. For us jesuits, the world is our home.
Salim Solaiman 50+
You are right , I don't understand you. How come I will?
Even we fail to understand someone we meet everyday then there must be lot of disconnect in knowing each other virtuallly.
Is there any restriction for a jesuit to be poetic?
That's fine if you don't see any difference among people of different part with your jesuit eyes, but others might have different perspectives.
Lot of things are happening differently ? Am I right? Have a good day.
Robert Edwards
Third world: poverty, desperation, survival
Salim Solaiman 50+
Luigi Vampa
Its very comfortable write this from some nice city: Richmond or Rome, but we have to GO TO THE REAL WORLD.
Seth Powell 10+
Orchestra
Smokestack
TV
3rd-
mud
sweat
water buffalo
SEP
Salim Solaiman 50+
Matthew Vaughan
poverty
injustice
Salim Solaiman 50+
Rafi Amin 20+
Same Human
Same Planet
Different living standards
Salim Solaiman 50+
Erol Toksoy 10+
greed
exploitation
Salim Solaiman 50+
Michael M 30+
My world, our world, not first or third
Real people in real places
Luigi Vampa
Michael M 30+
I so agree with you that all this 1-3rd is so wrong.
Krisztián Pintér 200+
2. ros
3. ling
Salim Solaiman 50+
Debra Smith 200+
Salim Solaiman 50+
Well defintely only that also can come one's mind instantly.
Krisztián Pintér 200+
Debra Smith 200+
Krisztián Pintér 200+
Debra Smith 200+
Kate Blake 50+
1st materialistic, morally corrupt
3rd spiritual, politically corrupt
My classification of countries into these categories would deviate vastly to the standard. As the gap between a few excessively wealthy and the poor majority of individuals widens in ALL countries we need to find another measure eg Not GNP ... such calculations do not illustrate this gap!
So as more countries become ‘wealthier/materialistic’ this gap is broadening and this is what triggered the riots and violence in UK. The close proximity of have and ‘have nots’ will only lead to discontent; what to do about it?
Salim Solaiman 50+
Was wondering about your absence. Thanks for your thought...
Debra Smith 200+
James Kindler 20+
Salim Solaiman 50+
Thanks for clarifying.
James Kindler 20+
Salim Solaiman 50+
Sure I couldn't make clear that it would great if can give two sets of words one set representating First world the other for 3rd world.
Or you meant your set applies in both....?
lynn eschbach 30+
Salim Solaiman 50+
Luigi Vampa
Lindsay Newland Bowker 50+
Greed
Shame
Salim Solaiman 50+
Those three applies for both ?
Lindsay Newland Bowker 50+
John Skytar
Amily shaw 10+
simplely becuz i dont attach much importance to how this world is classified.
Gisela McKay 30+
Is the term even still valid? I know what it is/was, but when's the last time you heard anyone use it?
(I'll answer seriously when I wake up; I just got back from the office because the alarm went off. Somehow that didn't factor into the "should I run my own business" equation.)
Salim Solaiman 50+
I think so it's still valid, you might have different opinion which is appreciated as well. The world 3rd world is more used than first world so partially your question of non validity can apply to First World as a direct name. However the first world is mimicked by words like Developed world/ western world or simply west, sometimes G7 or G8 etc....
I had some discussion on these terms right here in TED, will find out those thread and give those link for you to check.
Thanks for your time and interest.
Michael M 30+
I still have to ask, what does developed mean and do I really want it if I could get it?
Salim Solaiman 50+
What 3 words jumped into your mind immediately when you thought about Developed World?
Here actually we are not looking for any defintion from book....rather trying to get how these are being percieved generally.
Gisela McKay 30+
I've picked my three "awake" words:
- validation,
- illusion,
- corruption.
And no, they are not my first three words, those were as stated, and a reflection of my anti-authoritarian nature, I suppose. "Whose definitions are these and what do they even mean?"
I'm afraid I see the world in shades of "agenda" - even when it comes to the war between science and religion. It is one thing I have learned about myself since participating in these fora.
Michael M 30+
Good question
Developed world
self-centered
consumers
lots of things
Salim Solaiman 50+
Benny boy
Third world, one which comes after me.
Salim Solaiman 50+
Benny boy
Scott Armstrong 50+
Third World: people, music, laughter.
Salim Solaiman 50+
Debra Smith 200+
Luigi Vampa
Debra Smith 200+
Third world: potential, poverty, people
Salim Solaiman 50+