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Where is the investigative journalism of the past? What happened to the free press which challenges PR and special interests to bring truth?
Why is it that there are fewer and fewer journalists and fewer jobs for journalists and yet we are starving for unbiased news reports? Where are the intrepid investigative journalists who do not just write articles from press releases but check out the facts and uncover the truth?
Why is it that Wikileaks had to bring us the truth instead of journalists?
Why is it that the news is so edited that we need TEDster Julia Bacha, a Brazilian film maker to tell us about the nonviolent actions of the Palestinians?
I recently read a book called Deadly Spin. It exposed the role of PR executives in influencing media to the detriment of the average person while promoting a climate designed to produce greater profit for those who pay them (like tobacco companies, HMOs and others.)
Closing Statement from Debra Smith
Over the course of this discussion, we learned that there are great examples of investigative journalism, but they are few and far between and they are often no longer reporters at all. People like Misha Glenny who reported on the superhacker are shining examples of their profession and film makers like Julia Bacha seem to be taking over the lion's share of investigative reporting on the nonviolent actions of the Palestinians. Where did we hear from both of those people? Right here at TED so it is clear that TED is providing a service for humanity that we can find almost nowhere else.
"There was a time when the journalists stood as watchmen for democracy. A healthy 4th estate ( free press) is absolutely essential to a healthy virbrant democracy. It's the press who are supposed to have our backs and inform us about what we need to know. Public awareness and knowledge of the banking scandal outfall is minimal..very little coverage leaving everyone in the dark about what happened, how affects them and what is being done to make sure it never happens again.Without investigative journalists independently providing their duty as the fourth estate, there is no major societal force to counteract the things that are killing humanity." Lindsay
It is very difficult to get the facts and that is why journalism used to be such a revered and cheered profession. I wonder though, is it more dangerous than digging diamonds, fighting disease or working for the UN? It may or may not be more dangerous but it is just as or more vital a service for humanity. There is a quote that says: My people perish for lack of knowledge. Without the facts our governments are making flawed decisions that put millions of human lives at risk. Groups with vested interests against the good of the majority of citizens have far too much influence in our democracies. Vive la free press!














Luigi Vampa
Debra Smith 200+
http://www.nytimes.com/2011/09/23/opinion/krugman-the-social-contract.html?_r=1&ref=opinion
(and thanks for this link to Lindsay who displayed it on her vital TED question: Who is above the law?)
Thang Tran
Why is it that Wikileaks had to bring us the truth instead of journalists?
Because journalists choose to not do illegal things? I mean wiki-leaks is great and all, but you can't ask journalists to risk imprisonment to steal copies of documents.
Why is it that the news is so edited that we need TEDster Julia Bacha, a Brazilian film maker to tell us about the nonviolent actions of the Palestinians? Because 1. you have the bias that Ted is not a media source or outlet or more importantly that the internet isn't a media source for journalists. 2. you already carry the bias that news is intentionally edited to leave out positive.(http://www.cnn.com/video/#/video/bestoftv/2011/09/17/ted-bacha-palestine-nonviolence.ted?iref=allsearch) 3. Lastly you do not include amateur journalists such as bloggers and random people reporting from hot spots like Iran.
Bias is everywhere including this post. Learn about it, realize it, then cope with it. Listen to many different variety of sources, different biases, the many many sides of a conflict, and accept the fact that anyone can be wrong/lying/stupid or limited in their sources.
Debra Smith 200+
I think you might be mistaken about Wikileaks stealing documents but I have no proof of that. My understanding is that they publish the documents that are brought to them once they are vetted. Many many whistle blowers have tried to get the information that they have out only to have a variety of corporate and government pressures applied to main stream media so that no one word ever saw the light of day. Truth has been held captive.
I am not sure why you included the video that I posted in my introduction box but it is always great to have my argument supported and another way to get to that superlative talk.
Your best point is that i do not include amateur journalists. As a blogger myself, I do think that regular people are making a wonderful contribution to getting the truth out there. During the G8/G20 in Toronto, amateur video held a government and a police force to a higher standard of truth and in my opinion made my country a better place.
I just finished an MBA where I got a chance to see what companies think is good business. I learned a lot about pharmaceutical companies, their practices and their injustice and they were not the only corporations doing heinous things. Most of it was nicely smoothed away by PR and big bucks but the people whose lives are destroyed never quite go back together in the same way in health, community or prosperity.
I think you might actually have some important things to teach me so I invite you to come back and treat me as a friend and a fellow learner. I will listen and respond.
Lindsay Newland Bowker 50+
http://www.huffingtonpost.ca/2011/08/19/keystone-pipeline-oil-sands-us-lobbying_n_931610.html
To be fair..I have to say that when there is coverage on something I am researching at Huffington, it is ballanced and quotes expert sources on both sides. This timely article lest any who cares to listen know that the political deadline for approval of the US side of the Keystone Pipeline is Nov 1.
.A chance for some internet supported direct democracy?
Also I saw and will bring here an excellent post on Oil from grad students at the New School. Voices like theirs are important when it so hard to find truly neutral and/or balalnced reporting of key issues.. We should read and encourage input like this from the academic sector.
Debra Smith 200+
Here are questions I would ask though, Is it preferable for oil to travel from the middle east over all of our oceans? Is this another example of NIMBA (not in my back yard?) Of course the solution is to get off oil. That is not happening immediately by anyone's prediction is it? We are all being held hostage and feeding the terrors in the middle east by buying oil there. It is clear that until now we have been enriching the very forces who utterly object to our way of life.
As a practical matter, is some improvement on several world issues better than no improvement? Is buying our oil and gas from a neighbour and seeing its real impact on the planet and on our economies better than pretending we are not doing such damage elsewhere? Is adding shipping costs to drag it from the middle east good for anyone but the ship owners?
BUT- this is a great example of how having the information at least allows for public dialogue and allows us to ask questions and hopefully get answers.
Lindsay Newland Bowker 50+
..I have been trying to learn more about SAGD ( the technology being touted as a sustainable and cost effective method for tapping eavy oils). I can't claim in the span of a week that my reaserach has by any means been exhaustive but I have noticed that almost every source I have found is heaviliy biased. All of the nformation available is either industry created or tainted by ideology at the other extreme. There are no independent university studies on the science or environmental impacts..no neutral sources that just lay out the whole picture .
When the search is in an area we are trying to learn the truth about and have no background in ( as is the case in my search for truth about SAGD), its very difficult to assess the information I am encountering
.Also it's amazing there isn't more ordiary media coverage and invetstigative reporting on SAGD and oil politics in general..It's a key issue affecting all our lives.In the past year I have ben nvesting quite a bit of time trying to be better informed on what I see as key geo political or economic events and its rare to find anty useful articles at all in popular media .I'm not sure what that means about media. Has our world just gotten so big and complex that journalism can't house or generate enough experts to keep us informed on key economic and geo political issues?Or is it that we just don;t want this kind of information? That it is us..our own expectations that drives what is" politically bearable" ( love that from David Brooks in the Charlie Rose video you shared) and what sell papers or generates viewers?
One of the things I have noticed ( as I use te nternet mainly for reaerach is that wikipedia is more and more filling the gap..the engagement of the user community seems to have elevated it as a source.
Frans Kellner 100+
Here it isn't as bad as in the USA yet entertainment dominates.
This is since all media became dependant on advertising.
I usually watch TV from Germany, Austria and the BBC 2 and 4. Some channels are strictly reserved for information and education without advertisement at all.
It's a pity that few English speakers understand the German language and few Germans understand English.
Your source for information would multiply.
There is so much and so interesting or important that I considered a while ago to put it on a blog in Dutch. Maybe this was a better idea than I thought it to be, and most of all if I did it in English too.
Do you know the following action site? They had some success in expressing the public opinion on important issues.
http://www.avaaz.org/en/index.php
Debra Smith 200+
It is a good one. When I look at it though, I begin to feel overwhelmed by the number of problems in the world. Perhaps this is part of the reason people are not as active as they should be. It is as though we do not know which end of the beast to grab hold of . That site is so colourful. So demanding of action now that even I, someone committed to taking action have to close my eyes and choose to stay and continue. I do not know how to improve it, and I know criticism should come with a solution but all I can do is say my brain initially says: TOO MUCH!
richard moody jr 10+
My research spans 12 years and thousands of hours of work, yet has not produced one dime of compensation; how could any professional survive under these conditions? Woodward and Berstein took great risks. So did Knight Ridder; they were the only major investigative journalists who knew what was going on in the lead up to the Iraq War. Now they have disappeared with no one to replace them.
We can only hope that documentaries and books will alleviate the information overload where celebrity status is all important. Let us hope that the internet as the "great disseminator" will provide an alternative to standard investigative journalism.
Debra Smith 200+
Is investigative journalism something you were educated to do and how did you stumble upon the story you are working on? Your question of compensation is certainly valid. Were the 'successful' investigative journalists of the past hired to do such work or did they as regular reporters just break out of their normal role?
Can you share with us what sorts of conduits you would need to be able to get the information that you have learned to the public in general? I would be interested to know your impressions of organizations like Wikileaks. Is there any hope the more traditional main stream media will ever take up the role of protector of society again?
richard moody jr 10+
I will publish an article in this journal that shows how we can achieve energy indepence first, than export more hydrogen than any country, rebuild our manufacturing sector, balance our budget, make social security, medicare and medicaid solvent, and, eventually pay down our debt---but it will take 100 years.
The public never hears of hormesis (the proven fact that low levels of radiation are healthful while high levels can kill you.); we will have a failed energy policy. Greenpeace is the most destructive environmental organization ever. With their professed attempt to shut down nuclear power, they and their ilk will help cause up to 50,000,000 deaths in the next 50 years, especially in China and India.
This is over and above the number that would die if we had nuclear energy instead of coal. Greenpeace was a major contributor to this carnage.
Take the Japanese experience. More lives may be saved by low-level radiation than the 100-1000 who die from high levels of the few "hot" spots; the major players like MIT, Princeton, and the Lawrence Livermore National Laboratory will control funding---and politicians. MIT hot fusion scientists helped derail both low-energy nuclear reaction research (cold fusion) and the integral fast reactor, a new, safer nuclear reactor.
Senator Kerry actively opposed the IFR program, the only Senator to do so. What the public doesn't realize is that Senator Kerry's constituents at MIT stood to lose upwards of $100 million if funding for the IFR continued. No one knows this.
Lindsay Newland Bowker 50+
.A healthy 4th estate ( free press) is absolutely essential to a healthy virbrant democracy.. it's the press who are supposed to have our backs and inform us about what we need to know. Public awareness and knowledge of the banking scandal outfall is minimal..very little coverage leaving everyone in the dark about what happened, how affects them and what is being done to make sure it never happens again.
Some have speculated that it is plutonomy control of media (press and broadcast) that has curtailed what is covered and how its covered. I trust a few people still, Gene Robinson, Washington Post..Rachel Maddow MSNBC but other voices I trust, Like Ralph Nader's has jsut disappeared to obscure little journals like the Palestine Chronicle. I trust National Public Radio and Charlie Rose. I trust Democracy Now.
.Although it is very time consuming, and google or bing translations often poor, as I said in Anita Milers talk on who we trust in media, I think there is truth out there but we have to be our own investigative journalists. I don;t think do it yourself journalism serves democracy as effectively as a health 4th estate..whether in print, broadcast or iweb based. We need someplace where the majority of folk can go easily for reliabe ubiased coverage on importanat issues.
We don't really have that right now.
Thanks for an important topic.
Debra Smith 200+
I appreciate many of the same sites that you turn to for news and information. I am deeply concerned that the information is just not getting to the people whether in the case of the Church or currently in the bank scandal (for anyone who is curious please see the question that Lindsay has posted asking: Is anyone above the law). People have been so vulnerable to the information disseminated by sources we should be able to trust.
I can't help but wonder why it is that the public is so anti whistle blowers and things like Wikileaks when it appears that they are struggling against huge odds to tell the truth behind the events of our lives.
It has been said that we get the governments we deserve. I sure hope that is not true! Maybe we also get the media and news that we 'deserve"?
Lindsay Newland Bowker 50+
I am not sure what the new 4th estate will look like..I think it will be internet based, I think the UN"s declaration that the internet is a global fundamental human right is key to paving the way for that..I am believing more and more in the wisdom of unbiased journalism because it makes us think, makes us update our own belief systems, our own knowledge base. I don't really see any place where that is emerging right now, but it will emerge.
Debra Smith 200+
http://www.ted.com/talks/jehane_noujaim_inspires_a_global_day_of_film.html
Mark Meijer 100+
http://www.ted.com/talks/julian_assange_why_the_world_needs_wikileaks.html
Debra Smith 200+
Michael M 30+
Here is another journalist speaking at a TEDX Conference in Ceiba, Honduras chronicling the violence in Columbia. He does it with words and pictures. This is the type of reporting we need to see.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WS0axdx3dH8&feature=uploademail
As you say in your post about Misha Glenny this "uncovering" aspect to all this is so important. We think we "see" the violence, but he makes us see it differently. The TEDx talk is in Spanish, but you can get what he says by seeing the images.
Debra Smith 200+
We all need to know who is doing great work in journalism and give them whatever support we can- even if it is just forwarding their message!
Michael M 30+
The most poignant part for me is when he talks about the "secuestrados" the kidnapped and the threats of the groups. Living that kind of life under this umbrella of threats is frightening.
This is a TEDx video that should be translated so that everyone can see it.
Luigi Vampa
Debra Smith 200+
Debra Smith 200+
Here is a TED talk of an amazing JOURNALIST: Misha Glenny is one of those people I have been asking for!
http://www.ted.com/talks/misha_glenny_hire_the_hackers.html
His bio from TED:
In minute detail, Misha Glenny's 2008 book McMafia illuminates the byzantine outlines of global organized crime. Whether it's pot smugglers in British Columbia, oil/weapons/people traffickers in Eastern Europe, Japanese yakuza or Nigerian scammers, to research this magisterial work Glenny penetrated the convoluted, globalized and franchised modern underworld -- often at considerable personal risk.
The book that resulted is an exhaustive look at an unseen industry that Glenny believes may account for 15% of the world's GDP. Legal society ignores this world at its peril, but Glenny suggests that conventional law enforcement might not be able to combat a problem whose roots lie in global instability.
While covering the Central Europe beat for the Guardian and the BBC, Glenny wrote several acclaimed books on the fall of Yugoslavia and the rise of the Balkan nations. He's researching a new book on cybercrime, of which he says: "The key to cybercrime is what we call social engineering. Or to use the technical term for it, there's one born every minute."
Watch TED's exclusive video Q&A with Glenny: "Behind the Scenes of McMafia" >>
"Glenny is not afraid to put himself in threatening situations -- one imagines his name is conspicuously absent from the Christmascard list of the world's major criminals."
The Observer
Luigi Vampa
Debra Smith 200+
So much news appears to be happening unnoticed as you point out. Why do we need a Brazilian film maker (thank goodness for her) to tell us that the people of Palestine really are trying non-violent approaches? Are there no reporters in Palestine to see this same story or are they too cut off at the knees or edited out of a job when they report perspectives that go against powerful political interests?
Luigi Vampa
The influented people are Murdoch believers,,,,so stop believing lies trough a critical aproach to news.
Debra Smith 200+
Having a critical approach to news is sensible but if you have no way of gaining objective information what does an average person with many other responsibilities do? We are so specialized in our labours today that few people have the time or inclination to ferret out facts and just have to accept that they will never know enough to be truly informed.
Michael M 30+
Without getting into a philosophical discussion about Truth and truths, let's face it we all deal more with truths. By that I mean the information we see (however it is we see it) and the interpretation we give that information.
I agree that real investigative journalism, the kind that finds a story and will not let it go, seems to be missing from much of our current popular media. They seem to play with the information in the way they choose. But we do have a responsibility to say wait, there is other information out there. Unfortunately, even with blogs and Wikileaks, it seems hard to find that venue today.
The information, the truths are out there. I believe that. I agree that the whole business of not only spinning, but spitting out those truths is somehow getting distorted. So my question is this. How do we find a way to re-center ourselves, our societies and world around the idea that there is Truth (I mean yes, capital T truth) out there. As long as many think everyone has their own truth and every one of those is of equal value, we will live in this morass and good journalism will seem just like all the other information "out there."
I believe we interpret truths through our mental models of the world. Those mental models come from our worldview. I think what we need is some good discussion about why our worldview has led us into this alley way you describe.
Debra Smith 200+
Michael M 30+
Journalists are supposed to be those "gate-keepers" in a free society.
Debra Smith 200+
There was a time when the journalists stood as watchmen for democracy.
Frans Kellner 100+
As I was reading this thread I remembered a report I saw a while ago. The subject was the same and they'd found out that reporters had become less of quality.
Because news is more fragmented than in the past they couldn't pay as much as was usual. Less educated people with less expertise got the jobs for a mediocre salary. This was about Holland but illustrated with examples from the US.
Debra Smith 200+
I do not wish to suggest that there are no courageous journalists especially since a number are still killed in war torn countries every year.
My point in raising these issues is to make noise for some clever persons with capitalistic motives to realize that there is a void in the marketplace that is unmet. There is demand and where there is demand there is opportunity for people to make a profit filling a need.
Nikita Yegorov 500+
Richard Nota 20+
In one post you write “It is my hope that some enterprising journalists will get a clue to the great need that they could fill, the heroism and the great hope that they represent.”
In another post I write “What incentive is there for them to stick out their own necks?”
You respond “I was not trying to share new information Richard but rather to see if the fine minds here on TED could add to my own understanding of the issues involved.”
There are other examples where you are advocating an all care but no responsibility approach.
Debra Smith 200+
Funny but I never aspired to have you 'take me seriously'' per se. As the mom of 5 adults, as a professional and as a TED member, I take my responsibilities seriously and live them. When I walk into a hospital which is closed because of quarantine to do my job I take my own measured risk for humanity. What is it that you would have me do differently or is it just fun to throw stones at people here? Can you enlighten me and teach me with your superior example? I am dying to hear you blow your own horn about your own good works. I write several blogs to pass along all of the credible information I find. I hope this meets your high standards of responsibility.
PS In answer to your question of what I would have reporters do- I want them to do their job and not just print articles based on propaganda from PR reports given to them with PR executives who just wined and dined them. I want them to do exactly what the courageous ones who went into the history books did- ferret out facts like they did about Watergate, Vietnam, WW1 and WW2. I want Whistleblowers and places that have the courage to tell the truth like Wikileaks to have public support instead of being trashed at the behest of corporate and government interests. I want us as citizens to have some guts. Each part of society has obligations and responsibility to the others. Without a free and impartial press we are all at risk.
Richard Nota 20+
I did not ask you what you would have reporters do. Neither did I ask you to blow your horn. I thought you were contrary and ambivalent.
When you did blow your horn you wrote that you take your own “… measured risk for humanity.” Very reasonable, yet in answer to the question I did not ask, you actually do expect so much more heroics from others. People really can have their professions terminated and their lives ruined by sticking their neck out and whistleblowing even when they are entirely right to do so.
You literally did write that you wanted to hear me blow my horn. It goes like this. I think the many people take their own “measured risk for humanity” and are stuck in the same plight. I actually agree with you about the nature of journalism, as very many people do. However, I think that those who accept the higher responsibilities, money, kudos and other benefits that go with it should show more responsibility for the problem than their underlings. That is something you almost eluded too when provoked. However, it is outrageously harsh to imply that journalists in general are spineless, self-indulgent and lazy by nature. Rupert Murdoch, for example, is at the top and he is one of the big reasons for poor journalism.
Debra Smith 200+
The world remains the same when no one takes the risk for truth. No one has the right to demand that someone else take those risks but I do have the right to make is clear that I believe that it is a noble and worthwhile course of action. I have taken and paid the price for my exposition of truth in my own area of life. I am OK with the price I paid. AS to incentives: not everything in life is based on capitalistic concepts. There are people who do what is right because it is right. You might not understand that if you have been waiting to make a difference with 'adequate incentive'.
Debra Smith 200+
http://www.ted.com/talks/tim_harford.html
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Debra Smith 200+
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Debra Smith 200+
No population is equipped to deal with such intentional influence. We are too vulnerable to governmental or corporate messages. Without investigative journalists independently providing their duty as the fourth estate, there is no major societal force to counteract the things that are killing humanity such as the tobacco industry, the war machines and even HMOs in the US. The book Deadly Spin details how hard the HMOs worked to create distraction and disinformation while gutting the US healthcare debate and denying people their rightful healthcare.
An individual can hardly investigate the reality behind all of the spin that is being produced in the name of profit.
Richard Nota 20+
"We need to call out more and more loudly for this type of journalism." What incentive is there for them to stick out there own necks?
It is not quite that gloomy. You have derived the conversation form a talk doing otherwise and there are a number of brave people with the ability. As for the tobacco industry, the Australian government is in the process is introducing plain packaging which has the industry very worried and may set a precedent for other governments.
Debra Smith 200+
griffin tucker 10+
http://www.abc.net.au/mediawatch/transcripts/s2698835.htm
Debra Smith 200+
I especially enjoyed the final information that the whole thing was a hoax.
Walter Radtke
Debra Smith 200+
If things have changed for the worse, what is causing it? Is it simply the issues raised in that old movie NETWORK? Has the news industry simply become big business which sells entertainment rather than news?
Frans Kellner 100+
You give the answers but what can be done about it? People get what they ask for.
Debra Smith 200+
Unfortunately, we saw what places like Wikileaks went through when they tried to sidestep mainstream media sources with the unvarnished truth. Truth tellers are black balled in our societies as 'whistle blowers" (to such an extent that legislation has been passed to protect them against the criminal and employment actions of the corrupt.) The man who exposed big tobacco was so blackballed in the US that he could only get a job in Canada (and we were fortunate to get him because our smoking rates plummeted after he helped us create anti-smoking campaigns.)
I guess the answer to your question is that as individuals we need to provide a welcome and a market for these courageous journalists.
Walter Radtke
Debra Smith 200+
Frans Kellner 100+
Debra Smith 200+
Luigi Vampa
The "infoxication " concept we used to study the amount of usless data that runs in the cibernet, we study this kind of issues to determinate the status of credibility in the Roman Catholic World. Remember that I work inside the Vatican and I am in the vortex of one of the higher and complex information organizations in the world.
Walter Radtke
Yes, the void in information we are experiencing is crippling. Not because the info isn't out there, but that we just don't have the cognitive interpretive framework to know where to look. I have found that a good news blog with comments is very valuable. Often knowledgeable people will post informative comments with links to their sources. I'm a leftist, but get most of my news from right wing news blogs because I already know what leftists are thinking and I need to look at issues from all sides, even the conspiratorialist side. I've studied conspiracy theory for 40 years and can separate the relevant info from the disinfo. It takes time to be able to do this but the rewards are worth the effort. The bad guys work hard to camouflage their mischief. My old "Psyops" web site might be a place to start: http://www.fortunecity.com/victorian/mill/1189/
Debra Smith 200+
Debra Smith 200+
Do you believe that you have access to good or better information in the position you hold, Luigi? Does your training and your access allow you to get a better perspective on world events? If so, how do the rest of us gain a better vantage point than our societies normally offer us? I look forward to learning more from you too.
Luigi Vampa
Debra Smith 200+
Luigi Vampa
Debra Smith 200+
Luigi Vampa
Where you can find the truth, the real one?...inside you or outside?. Myabe both sides, but with the use of criteria to research and discover...yes discover what is undercover. We can invent something similar to the truth, but not always we can support a lie. Of course that Frans is absolutely right...we in the western world are ignorant and the worst is with a very eroded capabilities to express something, becausesome burglair have took our lenguage. We ost the world when we lost the lenguage.
Michael M 30+
We cannot expect people in the media to be anything else...we have lost our ground to find and investigate.
Frans Kellner 100+
I watch TV over the satellite and as I see the Russian, Chinese, European news or CNN and Al Jazeera it is clear that the Western world is kept ignorant.
Debra Smith 200+
Is the central problem that we want to be entertained to death rather than have the truth?
Helen Hupe 30+
anthony bruni 30+
Also as an aside a while back I went on a bike tour of Bogata. Turns out the guy leading the tour was a former journalist who covered most of S America at one time or another. Well it's sad he can't make a living doing journalism is a conventional way, he was still overflowing with information on all the social problems down there and had some great perspectives on it that he was able to share. So yes the format may be changing but we can still spread information.
Debra Smith 200+
anthony bruni 30+
Salim Solaiman 50+
Can't remember when last I came across any NEWs from media........rather I get news from neighbours, friends or people who were on spot when something happened somewhere. Nowadays social media helping me to expand the horizon beyond my neighbourhood or country......
Debra Smith 200+
Salim Solaiman 50+
What about "conflict of interest" in media industry when they get paid or take money to spin the story? In the name of "freedom of press" , "freedom of speech" they are just making money making people fool...... it's not even yellow journalism.....
When these "media mugals" intentionally gives a partial picture targeting someone , is not that equivalent to blackmailing ?
Death of Diana , are not photo journalists to some extent responsible ?
There should be some process in place....... no profession should have freedom with out responsibility
Nikita Yegorov 500+
Debra Smith 200+
I am hoping that we will see a resurgence of the type of truth seekers and intrepid fearless journalists who once blew the liars in the public arena out of the water with words and facts.