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What is nature? What is natural? Is human part of nature? Should all acts of men be considered "natural" therefore be justified?

People often refute ideas and acts of human by accusing it’s against nature. (For example, genetic modification) In your opinion, what is nature? Is human part of this 'nature'? If so, then, may we assume all acts of human behaviors are "natural" and will lead to a “natural” consequence, therefore be justified?

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  • Aug 26 2011: nature is total material in universe.
    human has two part: body (material) and soul
    body is natural. but not soul.
    Intend can not be from nature.
    according to physics laws a material can not be the starter of a action (move) and can only transfer the move.
    so there is something that starts the move. there is a point in brain that first starts the command of move of a part of body. but how that first point/cell/molecule starts working? it is incompatible with laws of science and nature that a cell/molecule can START working/moving. material only can transfer move/energy/Momentum
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Momentum

    acts of human can not be justified because human has free will and who has free will will be responsible for his/her acts.
    animals have not free will and so not responsible
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      Aug 27 2011: SR, what is soul? can soul exists without materials?

      "acts of human can not be justified because human has free will and who has free will will be responsible for his/her acts.
      animals have not free will and so not responsible"

      what you mean by free will?
      • Aug 27 2011: "SR, what is soul?"
        soul is agent of move. agent of Intend. and has memory and has eye (the eye you see with it in sleep dream when your eye of head is closed. soul manages body and thinks and has memory. soul is not material at all but controls body by using brain. brain us like a terminator that transfers information and orders from/to soul. animals have soul. soul of human is from soul of God. soul is not material so can not be detected by empirical science in lab.
        soul is non-material part of human. for example in deja vu human see future in sleep dream. but according sciense material can not go to future. this shows human can go to future. also Intend. how a material can START move Initially? material can not and soul can. material does not have Intend. consider a robot. can only and only itself alone decide to start move? it needs program and program for start needs a button and button should pressed with using INTEND of human.

        "can soul exists without materials?"
        yes sure. soul can leave body. when you sleep your soul leave your body and at morning back again.

        "what you mean by free will? "
        decide between doing a good or evil deed.
        for example you can tell lie or not tell. you think and decide to do good or evil. but animals have not such thing. good and evil deeds has no meaning for animals. their deeds all are neutral. they are reprogrammed.
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      Aug 28 2011: "so there is something that starts the move. there is a point in brain that first starts the command of move of a part of body. but how that first point/cell/molecule starts working? it is incompatible with laws of science and nature that a cell/molecule can START working/moving."

      Well I would have to disagree with you. The Thought to move a body part come from an other thought, not from no where, like every other impulse or thought. And your very first mental impulse could likely be programmed into our genetic code. And never make the mistake of saying that something doesn't work with in the laws of physic because you don't know, as no human being or group of human beings know all the laws of physics. A Much safer phrase to say is "is doesn't work with in the know laws of physics." Though in the end I must disagree with you regardless of your choice of words.
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      Sep 5 2011: THere is not a single atom in your body not acting according to the rules of physics.

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