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Cheyenne Lin

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Do you think East Asia will obtain global dominance by 2015?

Economists say that China will be #1 in GDP by the year 2015. In South Korea and Japan they are already globalizing their pop culture. It has spread to other countries in Europe and America slowly but surely. The big three are even planning a world wide Asian boy band. Fashion designers turn to Asian consumers and designers for the latest trends. I am curious on your predictions for the Eastern world domination.

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  • Aug 26 2011: I don't think china will obtain global dominance because they don't want to. In fact, chinease consider china as the center of the world and they don't want to dominate it. But, they are going to impose themselves economically and become the first but without dominating the world. In fact, they don't have yet the ability to influence other countries and people, And don't forget the current arab uprisings, i think that geostrategically, it will change a lot if arab people manage to make these revolutions their own revolutions and try to mature it.
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    Aug 26 2011: Sorry for blasting the pink balloon but It doesn't work that way. Being no1 in GDP does not allow you to dominate global economy. You can shake the system but you cant tear it down. As a fact western cultural assimilation is not only based on money. It has so many other significant phases such as like religion, art, technology etc. Eastern world including India may strengthen their influences on world trade by the year 2015 but it wont have such a great positive effect on ordinary eastern peoples lives.
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    Aug 25 2011: Isn't it time that countries aspired to something other than world domination? I was hoping for better from the wise old cultures of the east especially China which has seldom promoted hegamony. What I am hoping for is leadership from different areas of the globe for a better way of life for more people.
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      Aug 25 2011: can't we say that any sort of world view that has the concept of "good" as opposed to "bad", or "right" as opposed to "wrong" automatically seeks world domination? since it is unethical for other governments to do "bad" to their citizens. the very concept of right behavior already contains aggression ...


      ... except for a few cases. like for example buddhism, in which one can't escape karma, so if i try to save someone from any "bad", i'm not helping that person, but holding him back. and another example is the non-aggression principle, which simply refuses any sort of responsibility other than for your own actions.
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      Aug 26 2011: even if countries were not to aspire to world domination, if that was what they were doing, there would still be a superpower in existence.

      i can see that the 'east' would be able to be the next super-power without having to 'dominate' - i think this is the wrong choice of word, as domination doesn't really imply responsiblity.

      China demonstrates responsibility for their people very well. i was very impressed with their response to a severe earthquake, and how they managed it.

      i've heard many times recently that China will become the next superpower, from different reliable sources.

      i'm actually surprised that so many people are in such disbelief about it. seems all sorts of emotions and rationalisations based on fear are cropping up about it.
  • Aug 25 2011: I suggest looking up "Delusions of Grandeur" and "Megalomania".
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    Aug 25 2011: eventually. if it's not by 2015, it'll be very soon.

    i'm more interested how the Chinese government plans to introduce multi-faceted systems of government and collaboration and bring it together to form a unified system.

    as seen by many of the comments in this thread, there is either a huge misunderstanding or just plain disbelief over China becoming the next superpower. i find that your thread is actually an open invitation to discuss issues such as cultural and lifestyle fears of change.

    sure, there will be changes in culture across the globe. just as there is a McDonald's store opening every minute across the globe for years, if not decades, which is a product of the current superpower, the United States, there will be changes to human lifestyles of which i have yet to learn about, simply because i've grown up in a 'western society.'

    i would personally expect the changes to occur slowly, to account for 'culture shock' and also that some of the current cultural models would not be changed much or even at all in the next 50 years. China seems to have proven that they can work with different society models.

    it's important to not fear what isn't understood, this goes both ways. it seems the 'west' generally has an understanding of China that implies fear through anger. China seems to have an attitude that matches the 'west' in the sense of grandiosity - but perhaps rightly so, they're the next superpower after all.
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          Aug 25 2011: (when you say "darling" I think you're talking to me) I predict that by the year 2050 South America will be globally dominant. "Made in Paraguay" will be a box office hit. Dictatorship will be all the rage. War will be a sport. Africa will be an amusement park. China will be a mall. The rest of Asia a bizarre. Europe will be a Cirque. North America will be re-named "Google Country" and Canada will be it's official seat of government.

          Seriously, I'm a democratic capitalist, to be sure; but a compassionate one. Capitalism and democracy seem like good bets....The world is in a major state of change. Call it a long, slow, rumbling, shifting global earthquake. When the dust settles and the new world emerges there's no way of predicting what it will be like. You can't predict earthquakes.
        • Aug 25 2011: I feel like 2050 is too far away but by 2025 south america and asia will dominate. I agree with Jim.
        • Aug 25 2011: South America is too divided politically to acquire hegemony. Even if South-American economies are growing quickly, they aren't very strong: Brazil has a GDP lower than the Italian one! US have a GDP that is more than twice the GDP of China. EU's GDP is a bit less than three time China's GDP. And even if you add EU's population and the one of the US, you have a number that is only the half of China's population.
          Even if emergent economies are growing very quickly, I think these states will collapse under their either too rapidly expanding (India) or toolimited (China and the unique-child policy) demography.
          Another fact to be considered is that these economies grow by selling us. They have no inner-market to consume their products. If occidentals economies collapse, theirs will follow. As long as they don't acquire a strong inner market, they can't have a more powerful economy than us.
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          Aug 25 2011: @jim:

          sorry, we all want birdia to be our darling. but this time, she addressed the OP i think. (OP=Original Poster=Cheyenne Lin)
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      Aug 25 2011: i think it's important to be open to other's views including those in China.

      she's obviously trying to open communication channels in a positive way, i say let her.
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          Aug 25 2011: one can never be so sure.
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          Aug 25 2011: i don't understand why you have the negative/patronising attitude towards me OR her.

          is there something i'm missing here?

          i'm simply trying to keep things constructive.

          i thought it was a legitimate question in the topic.
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          Aug 25 2011: i figure that 'she' could represent the view of some of those in power in China.

          i see this as an opportunity to discuss fear/anger about China's rise in power as mentioned in the topic's related video.