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Do you have “Patience”?
Second of those 16 Guidelines ... ‘humility’ generated good discussion
What does ‘patience’ mean to you?
Does it rate highly in your personal attributes?
Is it an antidote to anger?
Is it a quality that would benefit; a sensible guideline for life?
Poems, links, antidotes or humour are all greatly appreciated!
Closing Statement from Kate Blake
Miuch thanks everyone for you valuable input, especially Dara! Eric seems to have deleted his very worthwhile contribution? Thanks TED for the forum.
Most of us admit 'patience' is a challenge ... those with patience could have given us a few more clues ... oh well that's another conversation I suppose.
It was fun ...














Cheyenne Lin
Silvia Marinova 20+
Borrah Campbell
I believe this qualifies me to answer all three questions!
Does it rate highly in your personal attributes? - Yes
Is it an antidote to anger? - Yes:
Few things anger me as I have too much patience. Except for one thing... Stupidity is patience kryptonite. It makes me loose all my patience.
Is it a quality that would benefit; a sensible guideline for life? - Yes:
There are people depending on my patience right now. It's quite annoying. All to often find myself saying "why didn't you just wait?" Just before I offer my assistance.
Kate Blake 50+
Understand the 'stupidity' being kryptonite bit ... that takes lots of work as each of us have very different qualities and are at very different levels of evolvement.
Borrah Campbell
I'm just "highly aware" that most obstacles can be overcome at some point.
I suspect that it is intrinsic. Despite my numerous testimonies I don't think I've ever convinced anyone to wait for anything! lol.
sterling brewer
Kate Blake 50+
Ed Schulte 50+
At surface speck of light,
in depth the Sun we are.
Soul, Holy Spirit blew
through Miriam we are.
From the chalice of Sun
every morning we get drunk.
Drunkard’s of the spirit of patents
like Jesus we are.
If foe is serpent
the white hand of Moses we are.
If deluge be the whole world
the Arc of Noah we are.
O’ pyest one, your can’t se us
with your earthly eyes.
Look through your inner eye
and see what Souls we are.
Renato Moraes
It is not actually hard when you believe -and I don't say that as blabbering!
I am human, get stressed, suffer, have fights, get sad... And still, people and things emote me, help me, make me believe. I try, even when it is hard. Right now, I'm going to try, and for the third time in a particular matter, I am going to bring peace, comprehension and good sense or, at least, I hope. I believe it's worth trying, because no harm can be made to me, for I have prepared myself to be sensible and sensitive, not weak, insecure and disbeliefed.
For me, this is a matter of conscience. Am I aware? What is it worth living for? Am I still learning? Am I still questioning myself?
Kate Blake 50+
Salim Solaiman 50+
No one has patience 100% time that what I feel.....
For me ,
To Injustice, tyranny ,dishonesty, hypocrisy Zero patience
Trying practicing patience as that helps to have better plan to fight those
Kate Blake 50+
Muhammad Aizat Zainal Alam 30+
Is it an antidote to anger?
Frankly,no.It just makes the next time I go mad even worse.One way or another,we need to release our anger somewhere.In my case, ablution and praying seems to be the proper antidote for anger.
"Verily, with every difficulty there is relief." Qur'an 94:5-6
Have a nice day!
Kate Blake 50+
Renato Moraes
When people try to get me off balance, I feel biologically, heavenly, "whateverly" gifted, because I find many times very easy to find a way out if I persuade myself this is a better choice... And things actually work better, it doesn't matter who is involved. No harm is caused, because I use my capacities to add. I'm glad I am how I am, what I am; I'm glad for what I know, what I'm able to do, how I feel and what I can improve through the tools I own (my body, my communication skills, my respected individuality)
Dara Singh
Kate Blake 50+
Dara Singh
He helped to overcome impatience .
He suggested that whenever u get impatient just close your eyes for a while and just tell your self " be patient ...have patience"
Similarly most of the time I fail to completely answer exam question paper and run short of time as my writing speed is quite less and my brother suggested that just close your and say to yourself " I will complete the paper in time" 5 to 10 times just before answering the exam paper ...
I follwed the suggestion and to my surprise it really works ...and now I always complete my exams in given time and sometimes even early.
Same was the case with me in sports as I used to get nervous soon.....I always used to take part in running in school days bt always failed to get first position..most of the time I was second or third in the competion.
One day my sports teacher came to me and asked why dont come first and I said " Perhaps the person who came first runs faster than me". But he shouted at me and said " No, that person is not faster than bt ur nervousness makes u slow."
Next day during the practice he asked us to come individually on the track and complete 100 m as fast as possible ..Meanwhile he noted our time of completion with stopwatch bt he didn't disclose our timings to us. After some times rest he called me and said " wolud u like to know who has taken the least time to complete 100m ".I replied " oh yes sir." at which he smiled and said " thats u.. and u r faster than others bt when u r in competition u get nervous and bcoz of this nervousness u fail to come first "
I understood what my Sir wanetd to explain...in the next race i just focussed on the race without getting nervous abt the results ...and this time DARA SINGH came first.
So then I realise that its 'our mind ,our thought,our will ' that are to be controlled and to be moulded in right direction to achieve something
Kate Blake 50+
PS Thanks for saving me asking Salim that question - I am keen to hear his answer.
Salim Solaiman 50+
Dara Singh
Salim Solaiman 50+
While with any kid
Someone trying to come up with new idea
Someone trying to learn something new
Whatever wife says , I show patience like anything, otherwise ............:)
Kate Blake 50+
Salim Solaiman 50+
I will check Alan Pease definitely , might be lot insight there.
You must be knowing already, best way of remembering birthday of wife by an husband , is just forgetting once ................:D
With all patience I never forgot being very poor in remembering numbers though...lol
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Kate Blake 50+
Kate Blake 50+
What are your other flaws? I might have better suggestions for them.
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Kate Blake 50+
Very glad the strengths and likableness arose for you - I certainly appreciate your honesty and especially your sense of humour. My suggestion: keep working on those and the rest will fade into insignificance before you know it!
Kate Blake 50+
Firstly, parenting is tough at any time, so might help relationships if you hold back the comments about child-rearing to your brothers ... unless you have already bought up several ‘perfect’ kids already!
Next, and I don’t care what your story is ... I’ve heard them all, without your parents YOU wouldn’t be alive today! They ‘created’ you; fed and educated you – okay so they may have made a few mistakes but who doesn’t? Life is too short and parents are too valuable ... please go and fix it up?
Having said that ... you sound perfectly normal to me – they and you did a great job! And a bit more ‘patience’ all round would benefit most of those listed flaws ... patience to untie the shoes, get the glass, tolerate people slow getting to the point ... etc. What do you reckon?
Astra Singh 20+
Kate Blake 50+
Krisztián Pintér 200+
short answer: no
long answer: noooooooo
Kate Blake 50+
Gisela McKay 30+
I have come to the conclusion that I would much rather just escape from the people who require me to count to ten rather than be patient with them. Life is too short to squander it with people who annoy me.
As for patience in terms of waiting for something, yes.