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Farrukh Yakubov

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Where do you think consciousness comes from?

Science can give answers to many things, but consciousness seems to be an unsolved mystery. Why do you think people have consciousness? Where does it come from? Do you think it can be created artificially? How?
You may answer based on anything you know, it does not have to be a proven fact. Thank you.

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    Jul 8 2011: Consciousness comes from radiation, most commonly referred to as light. Radiation is the source and fuel of all life. Stars created and ejected the heavier elements that became the building blocks of this life. The most basic life forms built from these elements at the bottom of the food chain seek radiation in some form (sun light, volcanic heat, chemical, etcetera) to fuel their existence and build their bodies. As life is consumed up the food chain the converted and stored radiation is chemically extracted and used to power the larger animals leading to us, which we suppose is where consciousness manifests. So even though we can live without light or direct radiation we must consume it in some form. This radiation has made us what we are and as we look back at the universe we observe it through forms of radiation, this observance of ourselves and our world is the side of consciousness that we understand. So in short; life is created from radiation which then uses radiation to observe itself and the physical universe, it then adapts and grows always seeking the source and thus fostering consciousness. The question would then be: did consciousness stem from radiation observing the universe or did another side of consciousness thrust radiation into the dark void?
    • Jul 9 2011: G. C. I've noticed the correlation between this line of thinking and the Genesis story from the Bible. Light, or radiation is where it all began. It does seem a bit odd for it to be coincidence that the two are similar, that light was the origin of everything as we know it to be, and that ancient peoples were aware and wrote about reality in that way.
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        Jul 13 2011: I couldn't agree more. I don't think that the ancients were too far off from the truth, they just didn't have the words or concepts that we have today to further explain the meaning behind what they were saying. Then again we seem to be mucking it up with all these words and concepts at our disposal so maybe they had it better off...Occam's razor I guess.

        If the ancients were given this information from a more informed being then it would have to be presented to them in a manner that they could understand. If you try to explain existence through quantum mechanics you'd have to first teach them atomic physics, Mawell's equations and Relativity, things few people understand even today.

        One more relation that I like to dwell upon for shits and giggles: cymatics and the breath of God (sound).
    • Jul 9 2011: I agree with everything that you say here, but I'm still a little confused as how radiation determines consciousness. I agree that every life-form seeks radiation in some way, and it has evolved to the point where we as humans receive it mostly through what we eat. I guess what I'm asking is, how do you define consciousness? Is it our ability to make daily decisions based on their outcomes and consequences, such as should I shower before I leave my house? What does this have to do with radiation? Otherwise, I really enjoyed reading your reply.
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        Jul 10 2011: How do I define consciousness? Well I think that all decisions are derivatives of consciousness. So far as I can tell all life makes choices based on external stimuli; plants, animals, algae, even DNA. Epigenetics is showing that genes are switched on and off not just randomly but in response to environment. The point being that decision making starts at the simplest life forms and continues through the chain of life. The choices we make like taking showers and the like are not too far off from what any other animal makes, maybe there are more variables that we take into account but all told we're just weighing pros and cons seeking desired outcomes.

        What this has to do with radiation is that we are like filters or lenses through which radiation passes and is interpreted. We stem from radiation while observing and interacting with it and the our environment just like all life. Consciousness is radiation, interacting with the physical world, observing itself and sending information back into itself thus resulting in infinite recursion both inward and outward.

        Does this help? I'm trying to be descriptive but not bore you with details.
        • Jul 10 2011: GC

          Very interesting. Are you saying, "Consciousness is radiation" like Richard Dawkins is referring to "memes"?
        • Jul 11 2011: Are you saying that consciousness is a kind of electric waves or magnetic waves?
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          Jul 19 2011: QUOTE: "Epigenetics is showing that genes are switched on and off not just randomly but in response to environment."

          Genes also repsond to thought. (See, for example, Candace Pert's "Molecules of Emotion.")

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