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How would you overcome fear to start a movement?

All ideas, experiences are welcome for sharing.

  • Jun 25 2011: I think Einstein summed up it quite appropriately.

    The world is a dangerous place to live; not because of the people who are evil, but because of the people who don't do anything about it.
    Albert Einstein
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    Jul 16 2011: For A Better China --

    Overcoming fear requires allowing it to be felt, not denying or suppressing it in self and others. Then by converting its negative energies like sadness, anxiety and anger into positive energies like action, passion and excitement to fuel movement efforts.

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    Jul 6 2011: I think there is another thing that counter balances fear - support and encouragement from others. Especially those that mean a lot to the person. Humans are energized by approval. If they sense that there is a groundswell of support it can make fear very manageable.
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      Jul 16 2011: Agreed, Jim.

      Movements are inherently relational. Support and encouragement not only energizes progress, but also neutralizes fear, which if experienced only in isolation, can become overwhelming and disabling.

  • Jul 4 2011: How to overcome fear? Well, I don't know. I'm still trying to figure that out, but I think it is something like, you think about the opportunity to do something really good and realize that your life is nothing without doing that thing. I think the belief that you can create something worthwhile must be there to overcome apathy. Apathy is due to not believing that something good can come from action. It is actually not that difficult to inspire others, but to maintain a movement is more difficult. People all want someone else to do it. Act strong and maybe you can get something going and if you are lucky someone stronger will eventually take over. Look for that person.
  • Jun 22 2011: Imagine the feeling of complete and utter failure. Failure is what will happen if no action is taken.

    If action is taken, at least there is a chance for success.
  • Jul 19 2011: I have found in my own life, that when faced by the impossible, when fear is very real, you have to choose. It sounds easy, but it isn't. You can choose to stay there in fear or you can do something, sometimes anything to move you from where you are at. It may sound trite, but it really isn't. Having someone with you, or several someone's in community make that step towards doing something even easier.

    Real fear is very real. Real concrete steps in spite of that fear are real also.
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    Jul 19 2011: I guess that you would have to believe in something so deeply that the fear was less intense than the drive to make a change. It would have to be so important to you that the consequences to you as an individual were not prohibitive.
    I remember the TED talk where someone showed film of a person who was dancing with abandon just for the joy of dancing on the hillside during the concert. Something of the joy de vive that he exuded drew the key second person to begin dancing. When both were dancing independently and joyously, others couldn't resist the idea and the example.

    If you really love the dance, really believe in the cause, really know its right for you, then you will start the movement you are meant to start.
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    Jul 4 2011: I don't know that I would want to...But if I was so inspired, I think the energy of the inspiration itself would propel me past my fear.
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        Jul 5 2011: So agressive!!!

        The question posed is "How would you overcome fear to start a movement?"

        The question makes no mention of a social movement, The question does not ask for what kind of movement a person would start. The question, Jonathan, is how would you overcome fear in relation to starting a movement? You seem to have some problems with comprehending the question.

        As I said, I find that when I am in a "state of inspiration" (drunkeness as Birdia calls it) I take risks I would not otherwise take. What's so hard to understand about that?

        May I also recommend that you take a class? Anger Management.
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          Jul 5 2011: i don't have the faintest hope to understand what "contemporary social movement" would be. more to that, i have a strong feeling that it actually does not make sense.
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        Jul 6 2011: Johnson - I apologize for the inadvertent miscue with your name...

        You've lost me again with your link-laden, obscure references to CEO's and whatever point you were trying to force through with the long quote. (Was that a quote or you talking?) the leap you make from preparing for a triathlon to detonating an economy is comical. I really have no idea what you are talking about aside from the fact you are desperately trying to get back on topic.

        You have a poor understanding of what inspiration is. Think Gandhi . Think JFK. Think Martin Luther King - all of which were fueled by inspiration. Think of any great artistic movement - all grown out of inspiration. Think of the world's most gifted writers and music composers - all needed inspiration to create. Movements need to maintain and build upon that state of inspiration that is vital to it's success.
        You just don't understand inspiration as I understand it.
  • Jul 3 2011: To do so, the three building blocks are described next to fight the fear and road blocks for creativity flow in following ways:

    During play you anticipate, surprise, feel pleasure, understand, strengthen, and poise. The element of play is fun and the outcomes seem quite attractive, so why don’t we play as adults. It is also called serious play like gaming education context. Go play games of your choice.

    As trainee, you need to have greater sense of self and a greater tolerance of failure. Improvisation skills help to eliminate the fear factor, allowing ideas to flow freely.

    Observation is a vehicle for understanding lives and situations in the context you are trying to know.Participating and observing are both important because in both situations you are living in the environment that you are studying. The process helps you understand the problem by physical being inside that problem.

    For example, to understand poverty, you live some days inside that poor community, as result, you understand the problem and this helps to generate idea for solution of that particular problem
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    Jun 29 2011: Only when you have suffer violence you can take it seriously. It is nothing to joke about. Action is needed. Union is needed. Real contributions are needed.
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    Jun 25 2011: Ignite your strongest passion with your clear purpose and vision. Everybody wants a better world, I believe there is a way to transform our world. http://Bit.Ly/ThePowerInfo
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      Jun 26 2011: wow, what a unique idea, and handy too. i'm considering it.
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        Jul 3 2011: @Johnson Tao: it worth a try whether a glass of wine indeed increases that aggression in you, or maybe it dissolves it. later we can try to explain the result with some theories about the prefrontal cortex.
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        Jul 3 2011: but now you turned into evasive
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          Jul 4 2011: Johnson, my good man... Methinks you think too much.

          To compare what I do (or anyone else) to reach and maintain sensory euphoria ( I like to write and play music) to the hooligan anarchists in Vancouver who hijacked and set ablaze an otherwise tranquil city is an exercise in over-reaching civility.

          Lock the anarchists up. Life waits for no one. Drink it in.

          BTW - I think alcohol deadens the senses and so I never touch it.
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          Jul 4 2011: "You still don't get it, the crowd's collective emotion isn't one of "tranquility". Otherwise the "organized" "anarchists" group(the irony) couldn't have succeeded."

          Granted, there is a dark side to empathy. It's called "mob mentality". But don't let the dark deeds of the mob discourage you from being swept away by something that is bigger than you. Because when it comes right down to the real nitty gritty, it's not about you. Or me.

          When I have the extra $125 to go to a Red Sox game at Fenway Park I am determined to get my money's worth. Since I don't drink (do you know how much they charge for a beer??!?!?! Highway robbery at it's capitalistic best) I instead become swept up in the boredom and shout crazy things like, "Aw, come on, Ump! That was a strike!". Keep in mind I am at least 200 feet away from the plate and my view is obstructed by the thousands of people in front of me. But that's a good thing!!! It feels good! It's what I came for.

          Destructive behavior is the only thing I have zero tolerance for. Dissenting points of view push me forward.
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          Jul 4 2011: You've lost me.
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          Jul 4 2011: Wait a minute!
          "I appreciate peace and tranquility through proactive thinking, but that's just it. There's nothing proactive being an impartial observer."

          Impartial? At a Red Sox game? Peace & tranquility? At a Red Sox game?!? Observer?!? At a Red Sox game?!? KIll the Ump, I say!

          You say, "f anything, I would rather confront these social forces all by myself"

          I say what social forces? It's a baseball game.

          (I never go to baseball games or any sporting events. Too expensive for what you get.)

          Aside from the () my tongue is planted firmly in cheek.

          As was Birdia's until you pounced. There are more ways to create social havoc than what the anarchists did on the night the Chanuks lost the Stanley Cup...
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          Jul 5 2011: To get right to the point: your use of language makes me cringe.

          My "tangent", "assumption", and "hypothesis"? Ease up please on the intellectual calesthentics. My assumption is you've got something of a superiority complex and by virtue of that you will argue I'm intellectually incapable of engaging you in a meaningful conversation.

          You: "Finally a group of anarchists is an oxymoron. Since by definition they're incapable of self-organizing because they should be opposing all forms of organization."

          Maybe the Vancouver-based anarchists don't follow the rules of being anarchists. Very typical of anarchists. As I said before, throw them in jail.

          But more to your point lof my responses being irrelevant to a social movement (look who's calling the kettle black) I posted above my take on overcoming fear to start a social movement. Here, though, in this thread, I'm simply trying to get out of the way of your ego.

          You would do well to allow a little levity into this thread. Here's how - Step One: take tongue Step Two: plant it firmly in your cheek Step Three: smile.

          BTW, our Bruins took your Chanuks to the cleaners.
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          Jul 6 2011: Because I said a "group" of anarchists you declare that to be my definition of an anarchist? -That they are found in "groups" and that's a contradiction???

          Again and again your choice of words continues to be curious and revealing at the same time. Here are just a few recent samples:
          "admitted that you failed" (I guess that makes you the winner?)
          "remains undefeated" (I guess that makes you the winner?)

          You are clearly competing here as if we are engaged in a debate - as someone pointed out to you earlier (but you chose to ignore) this conversation is framed as a question, not a debate.

          Save your aggression and combativeness for whatever you are physically training for at the moment (something you keep casually slipping into your responses). This is a thoughtful thread of answers to the question, "How would you overcome fear to start a movement?"

          Inspired thinking can provide the shield necessary to fend off fear and bring about movement.
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        Jul 4 2011: this ego outbreak is frightening, if one thinks about it
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    Jul 6 2011: Tunisia, Egypt, Syria, Jordan, Yemen - All are experiencing major societal shifts in leadership and governments. From afar, based on what I've read and heard, there is a "fear-factor" to it all; real fear of being physically hurt or killed. Real fear that all their efforts will somehow fail and make matters worse. Yet they press on.... because they want a better quality of life. They want more economic equality, more freedom of speech, more opportunities to live a happy life free of hunger and oppression.

    When a society reaches a tipping point of unrest/dissatisfaction with the status quo, that tipping point in and of itself provides what is needed to overcome the fear that is ever-present in situations such as those in the middle east.

    In the US, too, there are rumblings of societal changes that I think the Obama presidency represents. It is a painful time. Change is painful. Change is slow. Change is looking into the unknown and having a vision of what it could be like...
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      Jul 6 2011: people do move when they desperate. most people are not desperate in the US, so we need some other motivation.
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        Jul 6 2011: That's the irony of affluence. Even the poor are well-fed. It might be why civilizations rise and fall. If a society is so successful that it lifts the overwhelming majority of its people out of needing the basics (food, shelter, clothing) and gives them small pleasures (TV, fast food, movies, etc.) then the society itself becomes stagnant - hedonistic. To sustain that is to tread water. Societies need to continually evolve to thrive. This is my take on it. I hope there is more to it than that. I think our culture needs to evolve!!! Maybe the new/emerging culture is the world culture...
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          Jul 6 2011: tell me how to counter it, and i appoint you my master
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          Jul 16 2011: Jim, I think this might be the first time i have ever disagreed with you!
          The poor of America are not well fed! They may be fat just as they are in India but they are not being well fed. They are being force fed junk through advertising and big business just as their minds are being fed crap through television and movies. There are consequences to doing marketing experiments on your own population And allowing one segment of society to knowly exploit another and the governments are reaping the consequences of not protecting their own people from exploiters.
          People are motivated when the are inspired and have a hope of a decent outcome. When they are placated, overfed foods that poison their livers and drugs that slow their brains they are unlikely to realize that the water they are swimming in is boiling them to death just as the story of the frog in the pot. (Put a frog in a pot of hot water and it jumps to safety- put it in a pot of cool water on a heated burner and the gradual temperature change allows the frog to be lulled into its own death.)
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        Jul 7 2011: I'm here for you, Krisztian... Just stop bashing my man Barack ;)
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        Jul 17 2011: Debra - I stand corrected insofar as my statement that the poor are “well fed” in the US… What I had actually meant to say was that there are relatively few people affluent societies such as ours and yours that are literally dying of starvation. I've been to Ecuador and Thailand to work with the poor and was absolutely astonished to see the conditions under which so many live. Housing that is barely habitable, disease and death is a common reality, and food is so scarce that starvation is a constant threat

        This is just not the case in affluent societies. I think the poor in countries such as Ecuador and Thailand would change places with the poor in affluent counties in a heartbeat. On a scale of 1 to 10 with “10” being the most abject poor on the planet, Ecuador’s poor are a “10” and I think the US poor are a “5”. (Sounds terrible to objectify such a profoundly sad thing…)

        I am something of a social conservative (I think - I keep changing). I don't like the idea that our government can put a program in place to help those who are genuinely disadvantaged and need help while they gain/re-gain their footing and become productive members of society only to have the program pillaged by parasitic people who exploit the system. Very frustrating. If I were in charge, I would zero in on those who do that and expose them for what they are and deny them the ability to cash in on a program meant to help those in genuine need.
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          Jul 19 2011: Hey Jim, some good points.
          Governments seemed to have learned the lesson of history that says that 'hungry' populations demand change so they have kept them feeling full. As to exploiters of others- they are in every strata of society.
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        Jul 19 2011: I don't know if I would go so far as to say that governments are consciously, "keeping them full" to avoid revolt – although in affluent societies it would be political suicide not to do so. And even if that was the case, which would you prefer - Full or starving? I still think this is one of those small consolations of being someone who is disadvantaged in affluent societies – they don’t die of starvation (though they will probably die of diabetes or heart disease). Btw, I am certain there ARE people starving in affluent societies in spite of the fact that food is accessible to them. But I think there are other issues at play in those cases…

        Yes, exploitation is everywhere (For years and years I've felt "exploited" every time I go to buy a car. This past year I went about it in a different way, staying far away from the dealership and communicating only via email. It was great! I got what I wanted for what I wanted to pay!) But exploitation is especially despicable when exploiters steal from those who have little/nothing else.... And it is a matter of degree - How much exploitation is acceptable? In the US welfare programs are administered almost without any real accountability/monitoring. I am a big fan of accountability!! Not the kind that feels like someone is always breathing down your neck, but the kind that operates for the sole purpose of insuring that what everyone worked so hard to put in place gets done!
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    Jul 5 2011: Defiance, inability to take crap, rebelliousness, indignity, perfectionism, snobbery, honour, vanity, passion---any of these characteristics will make fear seem tiny. Fear is a psychological agreement to imagine an unpalatable destiny. But, if you are someone who is constantly shaping your own destiny, it is ridiculous to agree to someone else's idea of one for you and / or imagine that there is only one possible horrible alternative.

    Practice shaping your own destiny every day. Make active decisions, little by little.
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          Jul 5 2011: and you really ought to ignore him. a good example that AI actually can surpass humans. we already have better computer programs than this.
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          Jul 5 2011: it is directed to me? if so, please note that i'm not. i didn't address any of his points. i'm not going down the rabbit hole.
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        Jul 6 2011: holy! dunno where to begin...perhaps except to say that people who end up being leaders, after having overcome fear, are not necessarily the most humane. They are just the ones with the biggest balls. They might delegate humanity to one of their caucus members, if that's their type of movement. And in fact, perhaps only an AI leader could really be the most fearless and humane leader---the only kind of leader who can run optimizing simulations to calculate which alternative would save the most lives etc. Humans have no way of knowing the extent of good or bad effects they create. "The road to hell is paved with good intentions"--could be applicable here.