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Atheism & theism

Usually there isn't a real dialogue between this two , we have the chance now to have one. Whatever you think try to share your arguments as objective as is possible because this conversation I wanna be about arguments .
Why the atheism is a better way of explaining what is supposed to be explained by theism ?
What are the arguments for atheism and what are the arguments for theism (at least shortly I would like to be shared ) ?
What role have science in this dialogue between atheism and theism ? (and as a contingent idea do you thing that the science have moral value?).
What role have the subjective feelings in this discussion , have they one?

(P S : you will be ctitisized , try to keep your point ).

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    Jun 24 2011: Atheism has a concrete rationale for explaining why things are the way they are as oppose to theism because.... I will give you an example, the ancient Egyptians had a belief that each night Ra, the sun god, would meet up with Osirris, the god of the under world , and fight Apep, the serpentine god.The defeat of Apep and the meeting with Osirris ensured the Egyptians that as night falls, they will be promised with the rising of the sun, Ra, the next morning. This was how the ancients Egyptians made sense of the succession of night and day. Today we know that it has to do the the earth's rotation around the sun that creates this cycle. We understand this through tangible evidence and not myths. These stories were made up because it was the only way they could explain things with the limited data they had. With today's scientific community we are evolving beyond that phase of rationale.
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      Jun 25 2011: That's right some ancient belief was myths , I would like to know about the actual moment which we live in , do you think that now theism is relying on that kind of myths ? and why do you think that atheism is more rational than theism now , I mean don't you think we should make a difference between science and (theism/)atheism?
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        Jun 25 2011: Like I said before the reason theism exist is because people can't explain or grasp what is happening. I know some people who belief that the reason that a person is sick is because of karma. this reason is very famous int he Buddhist religion. If you do a bad deed then you will be inflicted with bad consequences. But for those that happen to dodge the "laws" of karma, they just get pushed aside. This is what happens with theism and with people that belief in it. IF the results are in their favor then Hurray! if not then they just push it aside. This goes the same with prayer. In the law if probability half the time you get what you ask for and have the time you don't. So theism is very inconstant and atheism can explain those inconsistencies through science. So for your last question can you elaborate on that more? As of right now I can take the question many ways.
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          Jun 25 2011: The last my question :do you put the equal sign between science and atheism ?
          Yes that's a way of thinking in religion , I asked about theism but what you said could be applied to theism , a childish way in my opinion by the way .
          Do you think that theism by what it is can't use science for offering explanations as well as atheism? if yes , why? I mean there is that childish way of 'reasoning' in theism but it doesn't excludes the science , does it?what do you think?
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          Jun 27 2011: I've just put a question Jim but I agree with you , and I've heard of such experiments about prayers.
          At your question my answer is very simple : any sorts of ways , the whole science , you just said that theism and science are about different things, so a theist can use the science for offering explanations, why not? ; any mean as long as it's useful worth to be tried .
          What do you think from this perspective that science and theism are about different realms that is more rational theism or atheism ? which you would agree with? and why? (of course the arguments should be more of a philosophical nature).
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        Jun 27 2011: "Yes that's a way of thinking in religion , I asked about theism but what you said could be applied to theism , a childish way in my opinion by the way." A wise man once said that if you can't explain a concept or idea so that a little child can understand it then its not that great of an idea or you just don't get it. SO thanks, I'll take that as a compliment.I think there is confusion here. When I think of theism I think of a supernatural immortal being like a god or many other gods. "Do you think that theism by what it is can't use science for offering explanations as well as atheism?" Science is what disproves theism and it is also what shaken the foundation of theism. so no theism can't use science to offer explanations. That question is a contradiction in itself. "I mean there is that childish way of 'reasoning' in theism but it doesn't excludes the science , does it?" Yes in some way that is true to an extent. Both science and religion use one's intuition and imagination to get an idea or concept going. BUT science has something call experiments to prove its ideas or concepts. This is done over and over again until its ideas are considered facts. "do you put the equal sign between science and atheism?" Science is a tool. And those proven such as newtons laws and Einstein E= mc (squared) are concrete concepts. Atheism is just a terminology that identifies where you stand on a belief ( atheism or theism? ) so the answer is no, but I can say that their existence intertwines with each other. Science, which involves thinking rationally, came about because of one's skepticism for theism , the irrational. And without one's recognition of atheism, science would not have a stronghold in society.
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          Jun 27 2011: I don't make compliments , I just say something . You said yourself that when you think at theism you think at supernatural immortal beings like a god , and I agree, all what is build on it is religion , now you also said :"Science is what disproves theism and it is also what shaken the foundation of theism" I would like to know how science disprove the idea of a supernatural being=theism(not religion) because until now I never heard something like ........... At my the last question you talk about religion , I don't talk about religion but about theism .
          ".........but I can say that their existence intertwines with each other"..this send you back to my ask about how theism disprove science .............I would like to know........

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