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Conte Di Salaparuta Mordeforte

Conte e proprietario del Castello di Salaparuta, Consiglio regionale delle due Sicilie

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Shakespeare, jazz, espresso,& buona vita.

This is an opportunity to all free souls to talk about the best. No psichology, no phony theories, just the practice of joy de vivre.

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Luigi Vampa
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Jun 28 2011: Alora andiamo, bravi tutti siamo qui aspettando a Michelle. Grazie Signorina Baronessa, grazie Conte.

Ciao
Conte Di Salaparuta Mordeforte
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Jun 28 2011: Carissimi, civederemo dopo grazie tanti a tutti per la vostra compagnia e la gioia de essere qui al Caffe.
Il vostro impegno e meraviglioso. Abbiamo imparato tanto.

Ciao
Baronessa Ninna Di Val-Taranto
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Jun 28 2011: Arrivederci a tutti nostri amici! Ci vedremmo più presto di quello che voi credete.

Baci!
Luigi Vampa
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Jun 27 2011: Michael one of the aidess of Archibald want to serve you in your new caffe. He remain at your orders, with the very strict rules and guide from Archibald. He's name is Guido, very diligent and with the consigna to acomplish all your command.
Luigi Vampa
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Jun 27 2011: Dumas has no links with the Bonaparte family, no more tha a relation with minors employees of the administration and bureaucracy, th real links are with Garibaldi. Dumas live in Napoli where he wrote for the revolution.
Luigi Vampa
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Jun 27 2011: Signora Lindsay , Louis Napoleon could'nt be for just one reason: He as a member of the Imperial family wait his opportuity to be King of Holland, and the other Louis Napoleon become Nepoleon III emperor of France. No, the personagge is out of the royal and nobility families and as illustre member of his family from Tuscany he became the first professional organizer of revolutions collaborating strongly in the unification from Italy. I can't tell you more. In history the surprises are everywhre.
Conte Di Salaparuta Mordeforte
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Jun 27 2011: Carissimi dobbiamo aspettare a domani per la nuova tertulia da Michael. Debra the labyrinth is open always. Welcome.
Lindsay , Luigi is near here and he is to answer you already.

Ciao
Lindsay Newland Bowker 50+
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Jun 27 2011: Luigi..it has to Louis Napoleon as I suggested earlier..Louisi Napoleon's life is an excat track with monte cristos.. Who else could it be? And din't Dmas have linakges with the Bonaprate family?
Michael M 30+
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Jun 27 2011: Please be watching tomorrow for a new conversation.....mas cafe Archibald, por favor.....
Jaime Lubin 10+
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Jun 27 2011: Adriana....seguimos a Michael?
Jaime Lubin 10+
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Jun 27 2011: MIchael me emociona la idea de continuar con tu propuesta. Todos necesitamos un lugar asi como lo describes. Las Negras Modelo ya estan frias y a punto. Que tal una botana de "pico de gallo" con jicama, naranja, pepino, chile y limon? Y unas tostadas de panela con aguacate?.
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  Jun 27 2011: Oh si...pero mangos...tenemos que tener mangos....me pasas la salsa porfa?
Adriana Camarena
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Jun 27 2011: I've been sitting at the Caffè for a while enjoying what's happening here. I'm very grateful to the Conte because he managed to show us the real thing about italian spirit, the same spirit I discovered when I started to study italian, the same spirit I now find in every manifestation of italian culture, and the same spirit I find on myself. I think we all find a face of this spirit in ourselves, through the music, the dance, the food, the topics, the game... The Game was the best because it reminded me the real value of knowledge, of labyrinths, of paths.
I enjoyed this Caffè like no other, this was a refreshment of TED itself.
Conte Di Salaparuta Mordeforte
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Jun 27 2011: Carissimi tutti, today we finish this first tertulia in the caffe. We are very sensible to farewell rites, but we have to go back to our dutiesin The Vatican Museums and archivio. In this experience very nurture and happy we learn that the way to see the world and live from other cultures is the main ingredient to the reenchantement of us. Differente versions of the same, diverse reactions and very wide range of beloved things are the real life. We learn from our point of view not all are in the same wave. That is richness of life and goodwill to accept diverse opinions. We all are important and in the words from our beloved artist Kenneth Patcheen : "What do we do without ourselves" (excuse my english please).

The season is over and the summer extend their winds and rains on the Eternal City. We spend a very rich season in the joy of research and care our ancient roots.

We hope to offer to all of you a new and better version of the Ceffe, please be aware of that and expect a surprise. The labirynth is open and the game also. In the mean time we hope to share our new experiences with this very noble community. From all our companions, Father Delacourt, La Baronessa Ninna Di Val Taranto, Luigi Vampa that is in love with the new technologies, and our unavoidable Archibald we extend our greatfull heart and our hands to receive yopur propositions for a new experience full of joy, buona vita, expresso and poetry.

Ciao e civederemmo dopo.

Conte Di Salaparuta Mordeforte
- Debra Smith 200+
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  Jun 27 2011: Dear Conte and Baronessa and Luigi!
  
  What a wonderful adventure! I am still not able to post responses on the Labyrith's blog but I will find a way to continue with you for I have loved this adventure!
  
  Mille grazie
  - Conte Di Salaparuta Mordeforte
    
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    Jun 27 2011: Carissima Debra we can stay in touch in the various conversations here. The new caffe will be available soon.
    Your participation ans sensibility are unforgetable for us.
    
    La Baronessa e Io ti ringraziamo secialmentte la tua sincerita a cuore aperto.
- Michael M 30+
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  Jun 27 2011: Thank you so much Conte...and I do hope everyone there is well and happy. TED needs this sort of thread too...not just the "world changing ideas." Sometimes those ideas come in the form of good conversation, a beautiful moment stolen away.
  
  Grazie
  Gracias
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    Jun 27 2011: Maybe Michael, this is exactly how to 'change the world'- like minded people learning to love life and the goodness that creates can spill over onto the rest of the world.
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    Jun 27 2011: Michael our sensible companion...of course that your idea in San Miguel de Allende could be possible. In the meantime we are in topuch with your happines and joy to share among us all your open heart. Thankyou very much. Ciao amigo e grazie tanti.
Michael M 30+
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Jun 27 2011: Before this thread ends, are there some people who have visited here, who would like to visit someplace in Mexico, perhaps, San Miguel de Allende or Cocoyoc? I would love to continue the discussions, music and cafe. I would propose a series of questions for each day, a chance for each person to reflect on some part of life and love, and food, and music. If you are interested please respond to this post.

Here is my last musical offering...beauty, http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I6yneu-bcXU

This is not attempt to duplicate what our Count has done for us, but to keep the feast moving.
- Debra Smith 200+
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  Jun 27 2011: I am truly hoping that someone will extend the time on this discussion. It is important to me and I will miss everyone more than I can express!
  
  O brave new world,
  That has such people in’t!
  (The Tempest, V.i.184-5)
- Debra Smith 200+
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  Jun 27 2011: Michael, I am not quite sure what you are proposing here? Are you speaking of an actual trip or a new thread?
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    Jun 27 2011: I am proposing a new thread. I will start it I think if others want to share. I need a place of good thoughts, gentle moments and good friends.
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      Jun 27 2011: Dear Michael, the places of good thoughts, gentle moments, good friends and love in every manifestation are the perfect places to create, to see ideas born into concepts, to see that what we have inside of us can grow, can blossom.
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      Jun 27 2011: I'm in but I want to continue with the Labyrinth too if I can find out how to post there. I am loving the journey.
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      Jun 27 2011: Avanti Michelle, avanti....tu sei bravo e nobile.....qui si bisogna una nuova forma da capire il mondo
    - Luigi Vampa
      
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      Jun 27 2011: Signore Michelle Io sono qui per andare avanti.
    - Muhammad Aizat Zainal Alam 30+
      
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      Jun 27 2011: I want in too!!!!!!!!
- Debra Smith 200+
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  Jun 27 2011: For some reason Wongmo is not able to access this thread and asked me to relay the following:
  
  "Can you please give Conte and the crowd at the cafe my warm regards and I do hope it continues in a different format. Michael's idea of different countries was similar to mine ... my idea was for each of us to open it in our own countries as each month finished. And when we had done the rounds of our own countries then we could visit countries of our choice...."
Luigi Vampa
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Jun 26 2011: Ciao a tutti grazie tanti e civederemo doppo¡¡¡¡¡¡
Conte Di Salaparuta Mordeforte
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Jun 26 2011: Carissimi Archibald is claning up the kitchen and all the service is working hard to reset the place. For the last meal we offer you a splendid Funci Fritti cu Limuni e Agghiu, Zuppa di Santa Lucia, Arancinni e Gadina alla Palermitana. Da bere Vino rosso dalla casa e dolce di Crostata di Ricotta e pane di casa e marmelatta di bosco. E caffe forte.

Auguri e salute.
Conte Di Salaparuta Mordeforte
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Jun 26 2011: Muhammad, we see in your spirit a great expresion of joy. We are gratefull with your presence here at the Caffe. In this experience, we learned many important things about convivenciality and uses in this very new form of communication. We re sure that the typed word (not written) coul develop a new form of culture. We in the medierraneo, talk, not write, we see the faces and manners from others in the real caffe, here we see just a litlle picture and we imagine the conversation or the ambiance. Our ancient culture is based in direct relationship and phisical presence. In this virtual spaces, the images,flavors, smells and sounds are restrained. The caffe is a nice way to make a human net, a real net. Here is just a pale reflect on a social intercourse but not a real net. We apreciatte the teachings and discoveries in this ocassion and we meet in other conversations. Thank you so much.
- Muhammad Aizat Zainal Alam 30+
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  Jun 26 2011: Thank you Conte Di Salaparuta Mordeforte for starting this wonderful conversation.Without you, I would have not met so many friends.You are my Italian friend and for that,I am grateful to God.Thank you so much.This is a song I dedicate to all my friends here on TED.The title of the Malay folk song is "Remember me in your prayers".Have a nice day =)
  
  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vj9Dx-4nvdk&feature=related
Muhammad Aizat Zainal Alam 30+
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Jun 26 2011: Before this conversation comes to an end,I would like to ask Luigi another question.How do I make myself proud when everyone around me are simply not proud of me? I really really need you right now Luigi.Please don't make me disappointed.
- Luigi Vampa
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  Jun 26 2011: Niente finito mai. Muhammad do you really need the opinion from others?. Construct yourself bay your own means and dont be insecure. Put in a balance all your gifts and all your lacks then see clearly who you are. And what have you done to get that missinterpretation. And all the people cuold go to everywhere. You are the main being. Proud is built with the achievements and faults. The first ones are good to anhance, the fault have to be corrected. Is very simple and do it for yourself.
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    Jun 26 2011: So true
Lindsay Newland Bowker 50+
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Jun 25 2011: I am away dear friends to other duties . I left a farewell gift of fresh strawberries from my garden for Archibald to share with all.

Bright Blessings
- Conte Di Salaparuta Mordeforte
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  Jun 25 2011: Lindsay we will miss you and we hope the best for you, Your presence here is always bright and the blesings goes to you. Thank you for all your contribution to the Caffe.
  
  We hope to encounter you in a new space. La Baronessa said farewell, and Archibald is doing a really extraordinary confitura with the strawberries that you left for all of us.
  
  Ciao Lindsay e grazie¡
- Luigi Vampa
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  Jun 25 2011: Ciao Signora civederemo doppo.
  - Lindsay Newland Bowker 50+
    
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    Jun 26 2011: Couldn't translate this wise Luigi "civederemo doppo" ..but I thank you for being the guide to the Labyrinth and hope to meet you again ..outside the labyrinth
    - Luigi Vampa
      
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      Jun 26 2011: Carissima...I hope to see you after, (civederemo doppo), outside the labyrinth.
Debra Smith 200+
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Jun 25 2011: I heard the most wonderful quote from Thoreau today and I thought I would share it with all of you.

Do not worry if you have built your castles in the air- they are right where they should be. Now put foundations under them.

I think I have worried too much about the foundation stones thus my love of the song Defying gravity.
- Conte Di Salaparuta Mordeforte
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  Jun 25 2011: Carissima Debra follow Thoreau. In the castle architecture theres a lot of surprises. Sure you can find some.
  
  Do you stay in the Caffe.?
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    Jun 27 2011: I will stay for a very long time if I am allowed to. I hope you will extend the TED time frame or restart another cafe.
- Jim Moonan 30+
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  Jun 25 2011: Love the quote, Debra!
Conte Di Salaparuta Mordeforte
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Jun 25 2011: Caliban, Ariel, Properus, The tempest, We, Here and Now, our tempest, our caliban, our ariel, our Posperous.
Lindsay Newland Bowker 50+
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Jun 25 2011: Conte, Barnonessa, Luigi,Jaime & fellow walkers in the labyrinth

My Caliban Creature, endearing monster,
Come give me your arm
Let’s go to the opera
Confound the cops and those ladies
Staring at your webbed feet
Then to a gala place to eat!

No,No Your island’s drowned
Along with your wild mother
The City zoo would take you
But I have filed the necessary papers
I’m adopting you friend
Your name on my mailbox
I swear I’ll protect you
Venomous and scaled
Roaring drunk
I know the slime
Clay and color
Whose shape I am
Caliban.
(Norman Rosten)
Jaime Lubin 10+
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Jun 25 2011: Debra where are you?

I miss you.
- Muhammad Aizat Zainal Alam 30+
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  Jun 25 2011: I miss her too =(
- Debra Smith 200+
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  Jun 25 2011: You have no idea how much good it does my heart to read your words. My computer has crashed and as it belongs to the company I work for it has to be fixed by head office and that can take a while. I am trying to play catch up when I can on other computers.
  
  Jaime, I think one of the most dangerous delusions for anyone is to believe that they have 'arrived' and that they are totally in the center. My life and my education prove over and over that we 'arrive' in stages in this life. Much like the stations of the cross we are never there until we are there at the end with him. Those who claim to have arrived and behave in ways that they think are perfect and yet cause pain all around them are frauds and deeply unenlightened. Their darkness is so deep that they deprive others of the light. Perhaps the answer is to pray for them. It is easy to spew words and much harder to live the life.
  
  It is also far, far too easy to delude oneself. Far harder to delude others in the face of one's own actions.
Lindsay Newland Bowker 50+
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Jun 25 2011: A gift of spirit from Antonio T. de Nicolas ( St John of the Cross, Alchemist of the Soul)

"A persons life consists not so much in what happens to him or her but of the means he or she uses to gather that life, the particular inner faculties to which those memories, images, and facts are surrendered so that they not only make their lives through those acts but make them knowingly.
- Jaime Lubin 10+
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  Jun 25 2011: The means are just a way but not a goal or destiny. This is a profound meditation with the roots in San Ignacio de Loyola Spiritual Exercises. Knowing ...and latter goes into the Cloud of Not knowing. Do you know The Cloud?
  - Lindsay Newland Bowker 50+
    
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    Jun 25 2011: Yes, he is much influenced by Loyola whose work I have not explored. ( he is the Father Nicolas' brother)
    
    Leonard Cohen on the Cloud of Unknowing
    
    :"And come forth from the cloud of unknowing
    and kiss the cheek of the moon
    The new Jerusalem growing
    why tarry all night in the ruin
    and leave no word of discomfor
    tand leave no observer to mourn
    but climb on your tears and be silen
    tlike a rose on its ladder of thorns
    
    oh chosen one, oh frozen one
    oh tangle of matter and ghos
    toh darling of angels, deamons and saints
    and the whole broken hearted hos
    tGentle this soul
    
    Then lay your rose on the fire
    the fire give up to the sun
    the sun give over to splendo
    rin the arms of the high holy one
    for the holy one dreams of a letter
    dreams of a letters death
    oh bless thee continuous stutter
    of the word being made into flesh
    
    (The window) sing it three or four times a day accompanying myself on my harmonium)Cohen was a unitive wisdom master
Lindsay Newland Bowker 50+
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Jun 25 2011: The stone must become a dodecahedron in which all twelve streams of the cosmos are present and working together..we must maintain inner mobility of spirit by continuously journeying through the twelve streams of revelation. All thngs must be observed through all 12 streams. ( Valentin Tomberg ( more or less) Studies on the Foundation Stone Meditation)
- Jaime Lubin 10+
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  Jun 25 2011: Lindsay of course ...the sacred geometry in all traditions are the same. We have in ancient Mexico a very deep knowledge of cosmic geometry expressed in pyramids and ancient cityes. We use a pattern based in the number 13. Other in 21 and other in 52. This is a sequence applied in architecture or music is equivalent to the Golden Number or proportion. I rally learn with your words and makes me goes to the Sacred center. Thanks a lot.
Luigi Vampa
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Jun 25 2011: Per tutti qui al Caffe. Anche Io posso prendere un buon bichierre di vino. Centanni a tutti.¡¡¡
Lindsay Newland Bowker 50+
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Jun 24 2011: Between the stones

Between the stonesWe join the earthA father’s joyPaternity

Between the stonesWe toddle and fallInto his armsSanctuary

Between the stonesWe waste our daysTeacher dronesConformity

Between the stonesWe smoke a jointFind our nicheFraternity

Between the stonesWe break the lawsFreedom lostCaptivity

Between the stonesWe first find loveFlesh and heartPassionately

Between the stonesWe take our vowsSay I willOfficially

Between the stonesWe bear our heirsWide-eyed perfectMaternity

Between the stonesWe live our livesThe Good and badReality

Between the stonesWe discover lonelinesscrave understandingIdentity

Between the stones
We seek contentment
Meaning found
generosity

Between the stonesWe weep and pleaBegging peaceSerenity

Between the stonesWe stand in joyWistfully wishingLongevity

Between the stonesWe uncover treasureBuried deepDivinity

Between the stonesWe one day lieBones decayMortality

Between the stonesWe walk no moreCompletely freeEternity

(Carolyn Parsons, 2010)
Jaime Lubin 10+
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Jun 24 2011: Debra, the question about the stones are very very clear. Please focus your will to live the game, not to "think" the next step. Pay attention to the lirycs from the Carmina Burana.

Michael, the negra modelo is extremly good. Salud y chocala amigo.Hoy sera bueno un mole de Puebla y sopa de arroz estilo Arandas para celebrar algo, lo que sea, lo que ustedes quieran. Es dia de hacer una fiesta por cualquier cosa. Propongo el sol, la luna y las estrellas.

Lindsay the revenge is not a subject in the game. Was an ocassional stone that we all pass. Please be on your enchanting way to see the experience from the light and grace. When you see the dark side is because the light.

Luigi is an agent from the soul that has received the grace.
- Lindsay Newland Bowker 50+
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  Jun 24 2011: carmina burana lyrics
  O Fortuna (O Fortune)
  Velut luna (like the moon)
  Statu variabilis (you are changeable)
  Semper crescis (ever waxing)
  Aut decrescis; (and waning;)
  Vita detestabilis (hateful life)
  Nunc obdurat (first oppresses)
  Et tunc curat (and then soothes)
  Ludo mentis aciem, (as fancy takes it)
  Egestatem, (poverty)
  Potestatem (and power)
  Dissolvit ut glaciem. (it melts them like ice.)
  Sors immanis (Fate - monstrous)Et inanis, (and empty)
  Rota tu volubilis, (you whirling wheel)
  Status malus, (you are malevolent)
  Vana salus (well-being is vain)
  Semper dissolubilis, (and always fades to nothing)
  Obumbrata (shadowed)
  Et velata (and veiled)
  Michi quoque niteris; (you plague me too;)
  Nunc per ludum (now through the game)
  Dorsum nudum (I bring my bare back)
  Fero tui sceleris. (to your villainy.)
  Sors salutis (Fate is against me)
  Et virtutis (in health)
  Michi nunc contraria, (and virtue)
  Est affectus (driven on)
  Et defectus (and weighted down)
  Semper in angaria. (always enslaved.)
  Hac in hora (So at this hour)
  Sine mora (without delay)
  Corde pulsum tangite; (pluck the vibrating strings;)
  Quod per sortem (since Fate)
  Sternit fortem, (strikes down the string)
  Mecum omnes plangite! (everyone weep with me!)
  
  Lyrics from: http://www.lyricsmode.com/lyrics/c/carl_orff/carmina_burana.html
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    Jun 25 2011: Lindsay , Debra carissime, this is the best interpretation. Note all the symbols. And the stones. Maybe you can find some in the Charpentier book about Chartres.
    
    Auguri and with the salutation from Father Delacourt who asked for you two.
    
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AP_CSQgBPpQ
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    Jun 25 2011: Lindsay, the moon rules the waters and the sea, the moon is a stone floating in the heaven...the stone...between the stones we break the laws.....
    
    beautifull
    
    Thank you.
- Conte Di Salaparuta Mordeforte
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  Jun 25 2011: Caro Giaco Luigi esta de placemes por la forma del juego, le encanta y les envia a todos el mensaje siguiente:
  
  FORTES PROBANTUR IMPETU
  
  AD ASTRA PER ASPERA
Conte Di Salaparuta Mordeforte
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Jun 24 2011: Carissimi tutti dopo una severissima tormenta abbiamo ritornato. Il mare furioso, il vento indimenticabile. Ma adesso possiamo essere ben disposti per il gioco e tante altre cose , qui al Caffe....primo di tutto Archibald serve to all of you a very nice speciality here in Mediterraneo. Pan Bagnat e vino rosso Brunello de Montalcino. Un po di gelatto e fragole and coffe, strong coffe.
Luigi is here right now and he is in the best dispositione per risolvere le domande. Ask directly, without limits. Luigi answer all.
La Baronessa e a punto di cantare un po. Vediamo una piccola parte dal Carmina Burana in latin. Michael oul you help with the translation please?. You are an expert in medieval history.

Fortune plango vulnera
Stillantibus acellis,
quod sua michi munera
subtrahit rebelis.
Verum este, quod legitur
fronte capillata,
sed plerumque sequitur
Ocassio calvata.

Debra and Lindsay, Michael, Muhammad and all players attend this verses, has important and encripted senses to move safely, and avoid lost in the labyrinth.

Carissimi tutti stiamo contentti. Salute¡¡¡¡¡¡¡¡¡¡¡¡
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  Jun 24 2011: Not an expert Conte...just a mere mortal who believes that the medieval period has everything to do with the differences between Anglo and Latin american cultures. As Fuentes once noted, North American culture is Enlightenment bound, Latin American culture is medieval bound. I shall attempt a translation and as they say "get back with you."
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    Jun 25 2011: Michael to cheer up your efforts in this adventure, we send you some extraordinary in the spirit of medieval and baroque tunes in Mexico. Pay attention to the lirycs and you find beautifull words. Have you done the tepache?
    
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7G-U82PriO0
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    Jun 25 2011: Signore Michele lei e un uomo di rispeto. Miei saluti. A vostro servizio.
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      Jun 27 2011: Gracias Luigi, y que bueno que has acercado a la mesa..la mesa del amor, la musica, y la comida...y mas los amigos sinceros.
Julie Ann 10+
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Jun 24 2011: Thought you might like this - "Life is like coffee"

http://www.flickspire.com/m/SimpleTruths/LifeIsLikeCoffee?id=&cm_mmc=CheetahMail-_-MO-_-06.20.2011-_-COFFEEmovie-_-USCAXX
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    Jun 24 2011: Glad you liked it Wongmo. Don't want to interrupt your game but it is good when it is time for a little coffee break :-)
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    Jun 24 2011: wongmo.way up at the very beginning of the game

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