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The American Empire Is on the verge of collapse. If so will we see a new empire emerge after its collapse?

In light of the global debt crisis will empires as we know them become obsolete?

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    Jun 14 2011: While America is definately in transition I think that the USA could quote one of its favourite sons, Mark Twain:

    'The reports of my death have been greatly exaggerated.'

    The USA is in a period of having a mirror held up to its own behaviours but it has strong tentacles in most of our societies and economies. It is no longer just a government - it spawned American Mulitnationals that have a lot of power and a lot to lose. I think it is likely we will see a resurgence of nationalism and many companies will again find economic and PR benefits from doing more business at home thereby revitalizing the economy.
  • Jun 16 2011: Matthieu........I think comparing America in 1929 to America today may not be practical. America in 1929 has a history so we can reflect on it. America today has a set of economical problems different to 1929. America today is the only super power where as in 1929 it wasn't. America"s place on the international scene is unlike 1929. America in 1929 was on the rise where as today we don't really know which way it is headed? ...........America, in my opinion, is in a state of transition We must analyse, speculate, predict, or ask " sensationalist style questions," so we can prepare for whatever outcome, because America's future affects us all.
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    Jun 15 2011: It's not on the verge of collapse. It's not even near the state it was following the 1929 wall street crash and the great depression. I find your title a little too sensationalist. We could have a debate about America's place on the international scene.
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      Jun 16 2011: Matthieu, I happened to be completing an MBA in the middle of that time so we studied every move endlessly. I really feell that we were honestly teetering on the brink of collapse and only the lessons learned from 1929 saved our butts. Thus, I don't agree that the title is sensationalist. Not only that but a title that creates controversy draws participants- like you!
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        Jun 16 2011: It draws participants precisely because it's sensationalist and it's sensationalist precisely to draw participants.
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        Jun 16 2011: They led their own decolonization in tandem with other colonialist countries, how can you be surprised at your own decolonization? Also, it actually was a real empire. That's quite different.
  • Jun 15 2011: I'm not sure the United States will collapse entirely, but it will have to be restructured. I imagine many nations will soon come to value proper accounting practices.

    Just in case, It is best to be prepared to welcome our new Chinese masters.
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    • Jun 15 2011: I wonder if the American people are tired of the responsibilities of being an Empire or the only super power?
      If they are, inevitably America will or should reinvent itself.
  • Jun 15 2011: America is not looked at as an empire by many.
    In my eyes is just a huge industry, but thats just an opinion of a thirteen year old.
    we say we are on the verge of collapse, but as a matter of fact we still are the riches country in the world.
    china is catching up fast though. what happens when they become the richest. is there no room for second place? are we that greed? just because we arrant number one doesn't mean we have to crumble. we all have ups and downs. and im pretty sure we could become number 1 again
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      Jun 16 2011: Christian, I am pleased that you joined us and voiced your opinion! I am delighted to welcome a young person with interest in this topic. I am also impressed with your interest and your way of integrating the world into your view.
      I hope I will read many more of your comments in days and weeks to come.
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    Jun 14 2011: one year ago i would nod to the upcoming collapse of the united states. however, since then, europe has proven itself a worthy opponent in the race to the bottom. i never had real faith in china. and i believe india thrives because the state is not strong enough to command the country into the european-american doom, but they are working on it.

    so it seems that america might have a reasonable chance with its poker hand, a pair of twos.
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        Jun 14 2011: well, not yet, considering they still sit on an army bigger than all other armies combined, and the world's largest economy (even if it is rusty).
      • Jun 14 2011: I think America got what they wished for. You know what they say about what you wish for..........
  • Jun 14 2011: I have never much liked this question. I have heard it before and I will probably hear it again. This question leads to too many other questions. Is America an empire? What do you mean by collapse?

    I would like a more detailed description of collapse. By collapse to you believe that we will default on our dept? Maybe a massive depression that turns America into a third world country? Or do you postulate that the federal government will sease to be complety?

    I feel that a bigger definition of the terms of the debate will lead to better insight and discussion.
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      Jun 14 2011: An imperial political structure is established and maintained two ways: (i) as a territorial empire of direct conquest and control with force (direct, physical action to compel the emperor’s goals), and (ii) as a coercive, hegemonic empire of indirect conquest and control with power (the perception that the emperor can physically enforce his desired goals).
      The former provides greater tribute and direct political control, yet limits further expansion because it absorbs military forces to fixed garrisons. The latter provides less tribute and indirect control, but avails military forces for further expansion.[2] Territorial empires (e.g. the Mongol Empire, the Median Empire) tended to be contiguous areas.
      The term on occasion has been applied to maritime empires or thalassocracies, (e.g. the Athenian and British Empires) with looser structures and more scattered territories.
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          Jun 14 2011: i sometimes grow jealous of its knoweldge as well.
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    Jun 14 2011: eh, that collapsing sound you hear is just the federal government eating itself. When they get full or sicker, they'll stop. The states can run without it. Heck, we'll run with just county governance if need be. Many of us would like it that way anyway.

    The new empire is already the fourth largest form of democracy, facebook.com. The word "empire" will let you down though. As empires of the future will only last years instead of centuries. Although I suspect the word "empire" goes away entirely in this context. Just my humble opinion. I'm not much of a debater.
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  • Jun 14 2011: China is fast growing.. Also Germany.. but I do not see a global impact to where either would be supreme..
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    Jun 13 2011: to be honest, i dont think so. imo, i dont think theres room in todays world for a clear cut new empire emerge. maybe a world empire, but i dont see one nation comin up to do it.